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Neito posted:The 90s in video games definitely barely treaded that line between dark humor and just being an rear end in a top hat, and John "He'll Make You His Bitch" Romero was on the forefront of that. I thought I'd heard somewhere that John Romero wasn't a huge fan of that campaign.
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Leavemywife posted:I thought I'd heard somewhere that John Romero wasn't a huge fan of that campaign. Romero tried to pin that ad on Mike Wilson (who has since gone on to be one of the founders of Deveolver Digital) along with some other things and Wilson responded It does seem that while it was technically not Romero's idea he did not give it any pushback. And he's John loving Romero so it's not like if he said 'no' somebody was going to force him to do it.
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Leavemywife posted:I thought I'd heard somewhere that John Romero wasn't a huge fan of that campaign. Lol, like he didn’t at least sign off on it.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 00:48 |
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A big part of 90s and early 2000s game advertising seemed to be to insult you into buying their game and it worked that's why I bought Sneak King.
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Push El Burrito posted:A big part of 90s and early 2000s game advertising seemed to be to insult you into buying their game and it worked that's why I bought Sneak King. A remastered Sneak King would probably sell gangbusters now. Or unwrap your whopper for a free digital code? The burgers sell themselves.
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GoutPatrol posted:A remastered Sneak King would probably sell gangbusters now. Or unwrap your whopper for a free digital code? Chex Quest > Sneak King
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Push El Burrito posted:A big part of 90s and early 2000s game advertising seemed to be to insult you into buying their game and it worked that's why I bought Sneak King. little did they know that 15 years later the negging of the game ad industry would give rise to a generation of pickup artists
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 01:12 |
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Nintendo cling to their family friendly image but marketing their early consoles towards boys is probably a little responsible for snowballing into the gamer culture of today.
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hyperhazard posted:Letterman never seemed to be enjoying his job, at least by the late 90s/early 00s when I watched. He'd rattle off those Top 10 lists with no pause or comedic timing at all. Letterman always had an air of “I don’t give a poo poo” from the very beginning. It’s hard to remember, but in the 90s that was considered really cool by a lot of people. The one thing I always liked about Letterman over Leno was that Leno would schmooze any guest he has, while with Letterman, his utter contempt for certain celebrities was really obvious. But when he was really interested in someone, or really liked a musical guest, it seemed way more genuine.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Nintendo cling to their family friendly image but marketing their early consoles towards boys is probably a little responsible for snowballing into the gamer culture of today.
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Letterman was funny but not in a way that made you smile or laugh
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He’s about as good at this job as I am at mine
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Nintendo cling to their family friendly image but marketing their early consoles towards boys is probably a little responsible for snowballing into the gamer culture of today. It's hard to completely blame them, honestly. After all, remember that the counter-marketing to the Game Boy was never 'but what about the Game Girls'. It was always 'but what about the Game MEN'.
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I wonder how much of that was positioning it as a toy (where the market is heavily gendered) to get around retailer's hate for video games post-crash.
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Whatever "web designer" made that article look like that should be fired into the sun.
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Cleretic posted:It's hard to completely blame them, honestly. After all, remember that the counter-marketing to the Game Boy was never 'but what about the Game Girls'. It was always 'but what about the Game MEN'. Well yeah, by the time the Gamecube rolled out they pretty much got pushed out of the toys for boys market.
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https://twitter.com/screaminbutcalm/status/1105577845642878976?s=21
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Neito posted:I wonder how much of that was positioning it as a toy (where the market is heavily gendered) to get around retailer's hate for video games post-crash. Not as much as you'd think, unfortunately. The market never really crashed over in Japan, and it was still called the Game Boy over there. We're still talking 80s and 90s, so still a very gendered market regardless. Perhaps the fact that the gendered part of the name (as well as the aged part) was in English eased that in Japan. The Game Boy very quickly took off in Japan among salarymen as something to play mahjong or the like on while on the train/on lunch breaks, and even a very quick googling will show you some very female-aiming Japanese advertisements for Game Boy games. So in Japan the name never really limited it to the 'boy' demographic.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 03:50 |
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Nintendo's handhelds always got a more diverse and larger audience than the home consoles, pretty much carrying them through the lean years, and they only lost their stranglehold on that market when mobile games took off. (unfortunately, since they're still literally all trash) Brain Age and all, and I even had a cart of ebooks for the DS. And I think it's pretty enormously dumb to blame them for 80s/90s heavily gendered marketing, especially since Nintendo's been more ahead of the curve if anything. Zelda series has always been hugely popular with girls and Pokemon seems to be as well.
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I feel like Sega advertising in the 90s really laid the groundwork for video games becoming the domain of maladjusted hypermasculinity, especially its choice to anchor the campaign for the Genesis with the message that Nintendo is gay and also for girls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-25xDO5Qc4
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Toshimo posted:Whatever "web designer" made that article look like that should be fired into the sun.
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Humerus posted:The thing with Snyder is that his style is very much his style so you either like Snyder or you don't. I loved Man of Steel and BvS, and didn't bother watching Whedon's Justice League because Whedon's style is completely different from Snyder's. With that being said I'm excited for the Snyder Cut because, imo, Whedon was the last person that should have been involved in the DCEU. Trying to make it like the Marvel Cinematic Universe was always going to fail. I love Snyder's style. It's very different, and I loved that he was turning the DCEU into high opera with overly dramatic moments (the "Martha" part loving owned IMHO). It was so different from the MCU, and I loved that it was getting the New Gods involved in the storyline (I loving love Kirby's New Gods and the Fourth World). I wish I hadn't watched Justice League. It was such a heartless Frankenstein of a movie with huge tonal shifts from MoS and BvS, and hearing the John Williams and Danny Elfman scores just pulled me out of the movie. I'm super stoked for the Snyder Cut. Seeing clips of Darkseid and Desaad alongside Steppenwolf is so frigging cool.
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Good grief, I forgot which thread I was in and didn't realize I quoted a post 10 pages back. Please pay no attention to my excitement.
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Letterman was funny when his show started back in the early 80's. That style of humor hadn't really been seen before on talk shows. The few others were all "Did you hear the one about Jimmy Carter and the jelly jar?" jokes in the monologue and occasionally some funny bits. Letterman definitely had some real misses where his absurd random crap just tanked, but he would then take it in stride and then make fun of how bad the bit was. If you were youngish and likely stoned, the show was on more than off. But, yeah, losing the Tonight Show to Leno really changed him for the worse. He mostly stopped giving a poo poo after that.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 09:22 |
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I used to see him jogging all the time when I lived in westchester county and the deli staff all thought super highly of him.
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MrUnderbridge posted:Letterman was funny when his show started back in the early 80's. That style of humor hadn't really been seen before on talk shows. The few others were all "Did you hear the one about Jimmy Carter and the jelly jar?" jokes in the monologue and occasionally some funny bits. Letterman definitely had some real misses where his absurd random crap just tanked, but he would then take it in stride and then make fun of how bad the bit was. If you were youngish and likely stoned, the show was on more than off. I do remember seeing a video when he was retiring from the Late Show about how (in the Late Night days, obviously) his sensibilities were, for better or worse, a lot of the same things that got big on Youtube much later. So that probably also contributed to him not making a whole lot of sense as a big deal later on; not only had he stopped giving a poo poo in the interim and so didn't look funny to anyone, but good Letterman just looked like the sort of stuff that was trending on Youtube.
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# ? Feb 21, 2021 11:22 |
Watched Framing Britney Spears and the way the media handled her did not age well. There's a clip from a talentshow when she was a little girl and the old rear end host asks her if he can be her boyfriend.
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Speaking of the 90s and Nintendo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FArjEUhBgP4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE1oIhSgTgI
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Alhazred posted:Watched Framing Britney Spears and the way the media handled her did not age well. There's a clip from a talentshow when she was a little girl and the old rear end host asks her if he can be her boyfriend. The one that caught me by surprise about how badly it aged compared to how normal it seemed then is when they were asking Justin over and over if he hosed her right after her meltdown.
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Taking a risk here, but what do you read into this song that's extra bad? 3eb big song 'Semi-Charmed Life' is about meth addiction shared by the writer and their girlfriend and how it's all crashing now and the writer wants to get out. 'How's it Going to Be' reads like a follow up to 'Semi', the writer is leaving and describing it, and in that last verse wondering about wanting to fall back in, to, with, her - including a total relapse into a methed oblivion. Did I miss something? E. the video?! I forgot the video. I was looking at the video and I somehow forgot to look at the video while looking at it. I was listening to the song ThisIsJohnWayne has a new favorite as of 21:52 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Alhazred posted:Watched Framing Britney Spears and the way the media handled her did not age well. There's a clip from a talentshow when she was a little girl and the old rear end host asks her if he can be her boyfriend. I saw the clip from an interview where they played a video of a lady saying she wanted to shoot Britney in the head then asked her if she still felt she was a good role model. There's no way she wasn't deeply traumatized by what they did to her. It's so depressing.
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Picnic Princess posted:I saw the clip from an interview where they played a video of a lady saying she wanted to shoot Britney in the head then asked her if she still felt she was a good role model. There's no way she wasn't deeply traumatized by what they did to her. It's so depressing. Not just a lady, the wife of the governor of Maryland at the time. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-former-governors-wife-say-she-wanted-shoot-britney-spears-1567994 quote:At about 20:17, Ehrlich said:
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Aged badly because it looks like they're stalking some girl and play a song outside her workplace when they can't get in? I dunno, it's not really made clear who she is.
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Sucrose posted:Aged badly because it looks like they're stalking some girl and play a song outside her workplace when they can't get in? I dunno, it's not really made clear who she is. I think she stole there instruments, they tried to get them back and then she threw them off the building in the end
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Watching season 2 of You and Chris D'Elia plays a comedian who allegedly creeps on underage girls...like six months before he faced extremely similar allegations in real life.
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He played a pedophile in workaholics
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Method acting claims another victim.
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Push El Burrito posted:A big part of 90s and early 2000s game advertising seemed to be to insult you into buying their game and it worked that's why I bought Sneak King. For what it was, Sneak King was shockingly good.
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