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Blue Moonlight posted:The creators apparently considered making more explicit reference to it, but decided that “Friends” wasn’t the appropriate vehicle to discuss such a serious topic, which was probably the right call. Otherwise, the thread title would be Media that did not age well: Friends 8x03: The One On 9/11. "Could there be any more dead firefighters?"
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Aug 24, 2020 16:34
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Someone wrote a great Seinfeld 9/11 script a few years ago: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B50l484pDaMobXI2Wk5CX0NMbkU/view
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Aug 24, 2020 16:56
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Chandler happens to be near ground zero and gets interviewed on TV. Joey sees it, sandwich in hand, mouth covered in tomato sauce, bemoans "Man why couldn't have I been at the World Trade Center that day?? I could go so many auditions with that in my resume. Stupid sandwich!"
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Aug 24, 2020 17:48
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Ross's then girlfriend gets killed on 9/11 Viewers: "ugh shut up Ross"
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Aug 24, 2020 18:14
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Janice falls from the WTC, yelling “Oh! My! Gawdd!” all the way down. I am going to hell.
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Aug 24, 2020 18:36
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I like Friends.Ambitious Spider posted:Been rewatching x-files and just rewatched genderbender, the one with the aliens that swap gender and kill people by having really good sex with them, and are also Amish. It’s a little dated but the worst thing is Scully saying it’s more likely a “transvestite” than an alien. It helps that it spends more time with the Amish angle than the gender angle, but especially by 93 standards it’s not egregious. The funniest part of that episode is Mulder and Scully immediately treating it like an x-file when they find out their suspect has sex with men AND women???
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somepartsareme posted:I like Friends. That kind of ties into my biggest complaint-mulder is pretty much always right. We learn early on that aliens are objectively real. I wish it had been kept ambiguous longer, it would have made Deep Throat loving around with mulder more impactful if there was the possibility he was covering up more mundane sinister government actions with disinformation about aliens. I kind of remember them playing with that a little later on in the show, but it doesn’t work great if the viewer knows mulder is right even if he has doubts
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Aug 24, 2020 19:31
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I don't know if this has been mentioned but as a fan of Aliens, I only found out this year that Pvt. Vasquez is played by a white woman wearing contacts and full-body makeup. 
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Ambitious Spider posted:That kind of ties into my biggest complaint-mulder is pretty much always right. We learn early on that aliens are objectively real. I wish it had been kept ambiguous longer, it would have made Deep Throat loving around with mulder more impactful if there was the possibility he was covering up more mundane sinister government actions with disinformation about aliens. Mulder is always right except for that one stigmata episode in which the roles were completely reversed and Mulder was a big ol meanie for not being Christian IMO the x-files is prime "quaint 90s." I wish the worst we had to worry about the government was an alien coverup
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I never made it past season 4 of X Files (and so help me, I tried, but it started getting too much into the over-arching conspiracy stuff for me at one point, I really prefer the creepy yet contained vibe of the monster-of-the-week episodes), but it's such a comfort show in how evocatively 90s it feels, at least in those early episodes. I think if the show were made today I would have a lot less love for it.
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Kevin DuBrow posted:I don't know if this has been mentioned but as a fan of Aliens, I only found out this year that Pvt. Vasquez is played by a white woman wearing contacts and full-body makeup. Huh, I did not know that either. Googling Vasquez led me to her actor's IMDB bio and ooh boy: quote:Jenette Goldstein is a true chameleon. She is so effective as an actress, it is nearly impossible to recognize her from role to role. Jenette spent most of her childhood in Los Angeles. Born to theater-loving parents, she attended fine arts-oriented schools, and was the young star of the drama classes. She often competed in citywide drama competitions with soon-to-be famous peers Val Kilmer, Gina Gershon, Kevin Spacey and Mare Winningham. To hone her craft after high school, Jenette studied at London's Webber Douglas Academy of Dramatic Art, and at Circle in the Square Theater in New York City, mastering drama theory, physicality, dialects and the classics. It was in London, while performing in local theater productions, where Jenette answered an audition request for American actors with British Equity cards. Thinking it was another play or a small film, she read for a tough, macho Latina character, named 'Vasquez'And shot to fame in James Cameron's iconic film Aliens (1986). Cameron was so pleased with Jenette's creativity and strong work ethic, recast her as 'Janelle' in Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) and a cameo role as the loving 'Irish Mother' in the epic Titanic (1997). On an unrelated note, these bios are either written by publicists or egomaniac actors, right? Because they are always the most bombastic, self aggrandizing cringe fests. Case in point.
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Aug 24, 2020 20:16
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Kevin DuBrow posted:I don't know if this has been mentioned but as a fan of Aliens, I only found out this year that Pvt. Vasquez is played by a white woman wearing contacts and full-body makeup. That came out the same year as Soul Man. It's practically woke by 1980s standards.
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Aug 24, 2020 20:24
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AceOfFlames posted:Huh, I did not know that either. I'm sure they're written by the agency and probably just pasted from other promo materials. The thing I knew about her was that she came to the audition dressed as a turn-of-the-century immigrant because she misunderstood the title of the film, but I didn't know she was white until just now.
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Aug 24, 2020 20:27
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A friend of mine turned me onto Blank Check recently and I’ve been listening to their Cameron episodes. Apparently that actress has played a bunch of different ethnicities for some reason and also owns a company that sells large size bras.
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Aug 24, 2020 20:27
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AceOfFlames posted:Huh, I did not know that either. That's underselling the story: quote:Since Goldstein didn't have an agent, that was all the information that she had to go on. While she had seen the film "Alien," she did not know that they were doing a sequel, so she figured that it was for a film about immigration. She told Starlog:
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Henchman of Santa posted:A friend of mine turned me onto Blank Check recently and I’ve been listening to their Cameron episodes. Apparently that actress has played a bunch of different ethnicities for some reason and also owns a company that sells large size bras. She was kinda stacked, HTH
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Iron Crowned posted:She was kinda stacked, HTH hth with what? It would be weird to have that company if she wasn’t!
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Kevin DuBrow posted:I don't know if this has been mentioned but as a fan of Aliens, I only found out this year that Pvt. Vasquez is played by a white woman wearing contacts and full-body makeup. Are you saying that you never watched Terminator 2?
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Scrubs gave us the default Fortnite dance. https://youtu.be/v5RZ8k6iQik
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Aug 24, 2020 23:06
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Kojiro posted:If you're looking for unproblematic media I don't think this exists.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I don't think this exists. I beg to differ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAIGb1lfpBw
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Ambitious Spider posted:Been rewatching x-files. It's extra amusing as Gillian Anderson is very sex positive. The other episodes that date poorly always use another culture's mythology as a MOTW. Even back then they were poorly received as awkward appropriations.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Pre-World War two the United States was still mostly farming communities. You were expected to help at home and build the farm but it took off when the suburbs were accessible after the highway system and cars became common place. this isn't quite true, suburbs started to grow in earnest as soon as mass automobile ownership became a thing in the early 20th century. the highways were just a new, larger phase of suburban development, with preceeding phases based on cheap cars, electric streetcars, and trains. even then young adults were constantly setting out on their own, even if you didn't move cross country you might drift towards the nearest midsize city with more job opportunities if hanging around your hometown wasn't appealing the big shift in young adults being able to live independently was the increase in globalization and international shipping in the mid 20th century, which triggered mass outsourcing and loss of well paying industrial jobs. nowadays if you want a 'good' job you either have to go to college or a skilled trade of some kind, there's very few jobs that pay well that don't have some kind of degree or certification attached. used to be you could go straight from graduating high school to working at the broom factory and even if you didn't climb the career ladder you could still get paid enough to live decently
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:I beg to differ. The first like, seven notes of the recorder part had me afraid that this was some cheerful kitty version of Look Down from Les Miserables.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I don't think this exists. Fully agree. Jojo is still a loving mess in particular though 
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El Fideo posted:The first like, seven notes of the recorder part had me afraid that this was some cheerful kitty version of Look Down from Les Miserables. Damnit, now I want a version of Les Mis with cats. Just think of how cute it would be!
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Sobatchja Morda posted:Damnit, now I want a version of Les Mis with cats. Just think of how cute it would be! They uh, got some weird history with stage musicals and cats
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Aug 25, 2020 11:24
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Sobatchja Morda posted:Damnit, now I want a version of Les Mis with cats. Just think of how cute it would be! Unless Tom Hooper directs, otherwise it would literally be the worst thing in the world.
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Aug 25, 2020 11:36
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AceOfFlames posted:Unless Tom Hooper directs, otherwise it would literally be the worst thing in the world. I know everyone says that Cats should have been done with costumes, but that's the coward's way out. Costumes are for Broadway. Besides, it's a terrible musical anyway. So my suggestion is that for the film, they should have just used actual cats. In a world where CatMovieFest2020 is a real thing, that would have sold like hotcakes. Can the cats act? Of course not. But with the right director and cameraman, I'm sure it could work. So, eh, not Toby Hooper.
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Aug 25, 2020 11:51
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I would have watched Tobe Hooper's Cats, that's for sure.
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Sobatchja Morda posted:I know everyone says that Cats should have been done with costumes, but that's the coward's way out. Costumes are for Broadway. Besides, it's a terrible musical anyway. So my suggestion is that for the film, they should have just used actual cats. In a world where CatMovieFest2020 is a real thing, that would have sold like hotcakes. You can corral a cat in the general direction with a laser pointer, it'll be fine
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Solice Kirsk posted:Yeah, when I turned 18 (end of the 90's) I immediately moved out of my parent's house and managed to live pretty well on a single full time job at a grocery store as a full time stocker. Had to have a roommate, lived in a lovely part of town, had to choose between gas and food every once in awhile, and basically lived in the cold all winter to keep the gas bill own, but I was able to live. There might be areas where something like that is still possible, but it sure as poo poo ain't in any major city.  WescottF1 posted:For some reason, everyone's wages were posted on the breakroom wall. I found that to be odd. SaintFu posted:I feel like this has been posted before, but
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Blue Moonlight posted:Janice falls from the WTC, yelling “Oh! My! Gawdd!” all the way down. After Phoebe's estranged dad dies in WTC building 7, she keeps getting victim compensation checks. She gets increasingly freaked out as they keep coming. Also Friends was in the same cinematic universe as Mad About You, which has to be one of the most popular shows to completely fall off cultural radar the moment it went off the air. It had a revival last year and no one cared.
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Krispy Wafer posted:After Phoebe's estranged dad dies in WTC building 7, she keeps getting victim compensation checks. She gets increasingly freaked out as they keep coming. No joke about Mad About You. I thought it was something that lasted a season and then I read about and was like "Wow... This was a hit, huh?" I feel like the Drew Carey Show kind of disappeared too. But maybe I just don't look in the right places. Or maybe they want to keep it slightly hidden to better protect that Price is Right sterility. Zurtilik has a new favorite as of 13:55 on Aug 25, 2020 |
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Tiggum posted:Presumably to show that everyone was being paid "fairly". Most employers don't like people to share that kind of information because it makes it harder to underpay people..  I have definitely worked places where discussing how much you are paid is a fireable offense listed in the employee handbook.Zurtilik posted:I feel like the Drew Carey Show kind of disappeared too. But maybe I just don't look in the right places. Drew Carey was on TBS for a long time in the late 90's/early 00's. It was most recently on Laff (a OTA subchannel), for a few years, but it hasn't been on there for a while. It'll probably come back at some point when According to Jim, Night Court, or Home Improvement wear out their welcome in a few years. Iron Crowned has a new favorite as of 13:59 on Aug 25, 2020 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:After Phoebe's estranged dad dies in WTC building 7, she keeps getting victim compensation checks. She gets increasingly freaked out as they keep coming. To be fair, the revival was one of those bullshit provider specific channels so it isn't too weird that people don't even know it happened.
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Iron Crowned posted:
Every retail or retail adjacent place I ever worked had the whole “discussing your pay is a fireable offense” included. It’s almost universal in the U.S. to my knowledge, maybe outside of union places where everyone knows the wage scale. The Drew Carey Show, and similarly Spin City, are shows I remember airing on like TBS or TNT late at night or very early in the morning while both were still originally airing (They didn’t end until 2004 and 2002, respectively, which is later than I thought either did), as well as on local WB networks prior to it switching to CW in 2006, although I can’t recall either showing up much since...
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