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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

El Estrago Bonito posted:

The X-Files is like this too.

I think the X-files holds up quite well in this regard. Mulder and Scully both have phones and use them all the time, and the writers have to keep inventing reasons why they can't use them - just as modern TV has to.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

mind the walrus posted:

iirc they loving "Cask of Amontillado" a train in the first episode (or book, can't recall) because he was disobedient.

It even comes up as the first result if you search google images for "for the love of god montresor"

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

SEX BURRITO posted:

Sex and the City has someone buying an apartment in Manhattan and dozens of pairs of designer shoes despite writing one sex column a week.

Virtually every sitcom set in New York seems to be about someone who has some nebulous do-nothing job at a magazine.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Man, you know what REALLY did not age well? Street Sharks. When I was a kid, I loved the show, and watched and rewatched constantly a VHS I had of the first two episodes. Flash forward to high school, I'm digging through some old stuff, I find the tape, and decide to try watching it again. (And apparently someone uploaded the entire series to youtube, so you too can enjoy the GENE-SLAMMIN' ADVENTURES of MUTANT TEENAGE SHARKS)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QODCRSS0OPI

I think I made it about ten minutes before I could bring myself to turn it off. It's literally the worst aspects of the '90s distilled into a 20 minute toy commercial, and now I can only feel a deep sense of shame that I used to find this even remotely enjoyable.

Street Sharks is a great example of how everything on the internet is lies:

https://medium.com/pcmag-access/how-i-used-lies-about-a-cartoon-to-prove-history-is-meaningless-on-the-internet-6c88bcbc62d7

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Tiggum posted:

I heard Babylon 5 was really good and watched about five episodes before giving up. I guess I'll give it another look at some point if the second season is as big an improvement as that.

S2-4 is some of the best TV sci-fi ever made imo. S1 is a bit ropey in places but you need to watch it all because it sets up a lot of the major plot arcs for later. S5 is a huge letdown, and goes to some strange places, but is still watchable. Do not watch any of the movies or spin-offs.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Still better than the mincing woopsie stereotype from the 70s, or the leather-clad sexual deviant one from the 80s.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

It's even stranger when you remember that S1 of the Simpsons was such overly-sentimental drivel, and that every episode ended with someone learning a valuable lesson. It says a lot about how bad late 80s TV must have been if a cartoon boy occasionally saying "don't have a cow man" was considered so outrageous.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Aesop Poprock posted:

How did Saville ever manage to pass as acceptable that dude looked and came off like a nightmare rapist from the start

I read/watched a bunch of stuff about Saville after it all came out, and it seems that he had a real knack for kind of bamboozling people with the strength of his personality. It was his utter confidence in the face of authority, and his way of taking charge in any conversation that meant he could always turn things round to how he wanted people to see them. Whatever the situation, he knew how to impress his view of it onto others, and used that to either talk his way out of trouble or just steer things away from the subject. There's an old Louis Theroux episode where he spent a week with Saville and barely managed to get anything out of him. Every question Louis asked already had a pre-prepared answer ready - answers that served more to end the conversation and deflect from the question without actually saying anything.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Spuckuk posted:

Yeah, this, not sure how you could really get any other meaning from it, unlessss...

A whole lot of people who haven't read it seem to think Lolita is "A Perverts Guide to Why Kiddy Fuckin' Is Awsome"

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

My problem with Musk is that he thinks things like space travel and electric cars are essentially solved problems that just need the right free-market libertard like him to throw enough money at them and then he can bask in glory forever. He's trying to buy his way to greatness. And idiot nerds buy into it 100% because they worship shitheads like Steve Jobs.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Calaveron posted:

Remember Donald Trump's cameo

Apparently he used to demand a small cameo as a condition of allowing people to film in any of his hotels or other properties. People would say "sure, whatever", film the scene, then immediately edit it out (or sometimes they'd just pretend to film it then tell him later that "whoops guess the camera went wrong and we don't have time to re-shoot it"). Occasionally the scene would get left in, like Home Alone 2.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

MikeCrotch posted:

Seeing old interviews from Babylon 5 where the cast commented on how difficult and crazy the guy who played Sinclair was is a lot more difficult to watch after it was revealed he was a paranoid schizophrenic, and had to quit acting because of his mental health problems.

They gave his character a hell of a send off though!

You'd swear it was planned from day 1 if it wasn't for the slightly awkward way they did the the Sinclair-Sheriden switch off-screen during the S1-S2 break.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Mu Zeta posted:

I'm watching season 4 of The Sopranos and it's funny that people still loved Rudy Giuliani at the time.

Please always use his full name: Rudy "9/11. 9/11. Did I mention 9/11? Because I was mayor on 9/11. 9/11. 9/11" Giuliani.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Doggles posted:

Early 2000s was a dire era in game show set design. Remember Pyramid hosted by Donnie Osmond?







Who needs things like walls or colors other than purple?

Early-mid 90s was the nadir of set design. Who needs purple when you can have grey, silver , grey, grey-brown, and grey.

Peak 90s would be something like the BBC show Cyberzone, where contestants play crappy 90s VR games in a studio made entirely of chain link fences:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkzF56tGYSg

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Calaveron posted:

Rachel should ended up with Joey, they had way more in common and Joey never belittled her and Rachel actually cared about Joey's career and interests

Something I read many years ago is that VERY broadly speaking:

Ross is what women want men to be like
Joey is what women think men are like
Chandler is what men are actually like

Rachel is what men want women to be like
Phoebe is what men think women are like
Monica is what women are actually like

Ross and Rachel - the two "ideal" characters ended up together, as did Chandler and Monica - the two "real" ones. And IIRC there was a plan to get Joey and Phoebe together too at some point.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

BrigadierSensible posted:

On ratings chat:

In Australia the turning point, (as I remember it) was Total Recall. When initially released it was an R rating, (which meant that people under the age of 18 weren't allowed to see it). They then cut, I think, 5 seconds and it became M, which meant everyone was allowed to see it but was recommended for 15+. The 5 seconds were I think one swear word and 1 instance of violence, (I think the girl slapping Arnold in the face).

This was considered absurd, as how could 5 seconds extra suddenly make a film unwatchable for children. What they did was introduce a new rating inbetween R and M called MA, where people under 15 werent allowed to see the film. This meant you had your kiddie films, (G), your family films, (PG), your films for older kids that mum and dad would still approve of, (M), your edgy violent and/or sexy films that weren't quite bad enough to be adults only, (MA), and then your R rated films which were basically porn, or porn-like.

A similar thing happened in the UK with the Tim Burton Batman film. The ratings at the time were U, PG, 15, and 18. It was decided that Batman was a bit too dark and scary for a PG rating, but the next step was rating it 15, which was obviously stupid. So they invented a new 12 rating.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Wheat Loaf posted:

I'm almost sure my DVD has a 15 rating. I'll have to check later because that will boggle at me now. :D

The 12 rating only applied to cinema releases originally. It wasn't applied to video until the mid 90s. 12-rated films would be 15 on video, or edited to make them PG. I guess the DVD stuck with the original video rating instead of getting it re-classified.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Mad Hamish posted:

Hardly anyone ever realizes just how loving racist fantasy elves are, and I'm wondering how well that concept is going to age as society becomes more progressive and tolerant.

Lots of books were the elves stomp around in bright red caps screaming "Make Angmar Great Again!"

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

sassassin posted:

If you've got even a decent tan you're up to no good. Never trust a "swarthy" man.

Ah, I see you've played the Lone Wolf books.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Arivia posted:

Yes he is? There's test shots from TNG casting of him with a toupee on even and it looks incredibly stupid.



also:

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Tiggum posted:

Then again, I find most modern TV to be unwatchably slow. Particularly on commercial TV where they spend half the runtime recapping what happened before the last commercial break and previewing what's about to happen after the next commercial break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFtl2XXnUc

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Maxwell Lord posted:

Except they thought they would be cancelled at the end of S4 so they rushed their major storylines to completion, leaving Season 5 to be about some business with psychics I think (good last episode, though.)

No plan survives contact with reality.

Sheriden's capture on Mars was supposed to be the S4 cliffhanger, and S5 open with the interrogation episode, so they were only about 4 or 5 episodes ahead of where they wanted to be. But moving just a few episodes worth of stuff completely killed the momentum for S5. There are a few OK bits, but a lot of it feels like the characters sweeping up after everyone has gone home.


Groke posted:

There were several more good bits in the last season of B5 but oh gods how much everything to do with loving Byron sucked.

The original plan was that Ivanova was supposed to have her telepathic powers awakened by the trauma of Marcus's death, and then have a kind of crisis-of-faith regarding her involvement with Earthforce and end up falling in with Byron's group - who were deliberately written to be a bit pathetic and cult-like. But then Claudia Christian didn't return for S5 (for different reasons depending who you ask) and they had to shift that storyline onto Lyta and the whole thing just comes across as whiny and irritating, and doesn't really serve any purpose with regard to the main characters.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Koalas March posted:

It's weird, I hear people get more conservative as they get older but my grandmother has gotten way more leftist over the years.

The idea that people get more right-wing as they age is basically a myth. It's not backed up by any long-term studies and iirc is based more on a misunderstood Churchill quote than on reality.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

BiggerBoat posted:

Wasn't it a pretty blatant Star Wars rip off? Like down to a lightsaber, a chewbacca clone, etc? Or am I thinking of a different show?



...yeah pretty much

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Laterite posted:

In retrospect, there were only actually like two good episodes of Sherlock.

I enjoyed all of S1 and S2. Some episodes were better than others, but they were all perfectly watchable.

S3 was such a pile of dogshit that I still haven't watched S4.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Koalas March posted:

Remember this is the same country that went nuts because their Prince (who is 4 times removed from succession) is marrying a divorced biracial actress from the US.

No, a small minority of right-wing morons went nuts and then the rest of us had to listen them :qq: about it forever because the media are morons who whipped the whole thing out of proportion because they think balanced reporting means giving all sides equal coverage.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

hard counter posted:

i don't mean to single you out but this particular example's a pet peeve of mine because socrates most likely never actually said this

Unless I'm confusing it with a similar misattributed quote then I'm pretty sure that particular "Socrates" quote is no older than the early 20th century.

edit: Yep, 1907

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Davros1 posted:

They certainly weren't around in the 80s when I played with Lego

They were definitely around in at least ~1987 because I got one on the cover of a Lego club magazine.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

SpacePig posted:

I wonder if people were this angry once books were able to be mass produced. Why are you looking in a goddamn newfangled book for how to draw? Why don't you just go outside and learn to draw from the old masters? Stupid idiot kids.

In the late 18th/early 19th century there was a huge moral panic over young people (and especially young women) reading too much.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Firefly was cancelled because it sucked. It has the stink of Joss "Can't write anything but Buffy over and over" Whedon all over it. The characters are cliched, and its full of weird rapey stuff that thankfully we never got to see played out.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

ryonguy posted:

one liner one liner one liner gratuitous jailbait Strong Female Character display one liner one liner

That's what I don't understand. People are happy to admit his shows are flawed, but they go on and on about how he writes great characters and such snappy dialogue.

Except he doesn't. Every single character in every Joss Whedon show speaks entirely in quips, most of which sound like they're supposed to be followed by "...and then everyone stood up and clapped!"

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Blazing Ownager posted:

.... I also saw loving Cleopatra 2025 more than once which was the single most painful experience ever. Even as a kid I could sit through the wave of cringe from poo poo like Hercules, but 2025 was more like a train wreck I couldn't stop looking at because it was just so loving bad.

"A time-travelling stripper has to save humanity from its robot overlords"

A studio executive saw that pitch and said "Yes that's a good idea!" :psyduck:

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

KentuckyFriedNero posted:

Now if you want to see some TV that hasn't aged well watch the short-lived B5 sequel, Crusade, for some horrible mid-90s FX and space LARPing.

I can't get over how bad Crusade was. It's literally Dungeons and Dragons in space - right down to the main characters being a fighter, a cleric, a wizard, and a thief. Speaking of which I really hate that honourable thief character trope. It's dumb in the generic fantasy novels it came from and it makes absolutely no sense in a sci-fi show - it's somehow even dumber than the show having a literal wizard!

There were one or two good ideas, but they never went anywhere (the Apocalypse Box for example), but then you have poo poo like the X-files parody episode.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Araenna posted:

I have never heard of this show before. Please tell me there was a pilot/first episode that explains the stuff in the opening because that was awesome but I have so many questions.

Yeah the series is a full story with a proper opening and conclusion.

I seem to remember it being surprisingly dark in places for a kids show too.

E: Restored versions of all the episodes are on youtube.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

The Lexx musical episode pre-dates buffy as well.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Jedit posted:

"Surprisingly good" is a description that can apply to almost any episode of Lexx. No matter how terrible it might sound, it's always somehow at least slightly better. (Exception: the one in S4 with Hattie Hayridge and Craig Charles as the owners of a private prison.)

Lexx was a cool premise wasted on a stupid sex comedy. The original miniseries was great, and S2 has its moments, but S3 is very hit-miss (mostly miss) and S4 is virtually unwatchable.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

umalt posted:

But like a lot of mid-2000's humor there are a few bits of writing that are cringe-inducing, like the number of gags/plot-points where characters being trans is the punchline.

Trans jokes were the go-to thing for a while when people wanted a cheap laugh but realised it wasn't acceptable to make gay jokes any more.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Inspector Gesicht posted:

It feels like an anachronism that any sympathetic character would have an IRA background, as the IRA today and for decades are just criminals who call themselves nationalists/flamewar

Certain parts of America had a really dumb romanticised view of the IRA for a long time. A lot of Catholics and Irish Americans in places like Boston were openly fund-raising for the IRA under the misguided belief that they were giving aid to a group of freedom fighters. There were even IRA-friendly people in Congress who talked about how "Protestants should leave Ireland in coffins".

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Fisher Stevens blacked up in a hollywood movie in 1988.

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

RenegadeStyle1 posted:

Are there other cultures that have their own time periods that were as heralded or mythalized but was basically such a non event as the wild west in American culture?

Pirates maybe?

The so-called Golden Age of Piracy that most people imagine when they think of pirates lasted about 10 years tops (roughly 1716-1726), and most of the famous pirates from the era only operated for a short time. Blackbeard's entire pirate career was about 18 months.

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