BluesShaman posted:

X-Files "First Person Shooter"

cubicle gangster posted:

did you just guess this in the hopes that that's what it was or what because they were both from modest backgrounds and were super big theater/performing nerds who were trying to make intentionally contrarian comedy from the age of something like 14. I don't disagree that they may have slowly realized that 'not giving a gently caress & being contrarian' does have adverse effects when people start taking it seriously but the idea of it being a libertarian conspiracy because they are Rich White Males® is bollocks.

HopperUK posted:

I remember as they drove away from the destruction, the little girl in the backseat crying, "Is it the terrorists?" and that really got to me. The idea that 'the terrorists' were the boogeymen for little kids now. The movie isn't great but yeah, it has its moments.

Sanford posted:

Grange Hill had a two-year storyline with a major character descending into heroin addiction, in 1986-87.

There's an episode of The IT Crowd where Matt Berry's character finds out he's dating someone who "used to be a man". The revelation results in a fistfight. It's only a few years old and the whole episode is really really uncomfortable.

Aesop Poprock posted:

What's weird is that my brain somehow combined this episode with some live action show I can't remember the name of where a kid with AIDs is on the swimteam of a highschool (i think) and he cracked his head open in the pool and everyone panics and flees and all the parents are angry and reacting like the kid's a monster etc. Does anyone know what the hell show I'm talking about?

trickybiscuits posted:

Recently I got the entire run of Reno 911! on dvd. Humor about incompetent cops abusing their authority has aged . . . weirdly.

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

I think the X-Files has a special case for it being outdated, and that's due to it being a real child of the '90s. Living through the 2000s where those types of conspiracy nuts to be emotionally-damaged bigots who need a superiority boost just takes the luster off of the show and my memories of it. If the X-Files wanted to really showcase what it was all about, it would have another season where everybody is a screaming bigot who is screaming for Trump to save them and then show them doing it for the cash as their mental illnesses go untreated and they start to lose control of their lives.

Also, at this point the idea of the government being controlled by a bunch of shadowy men is a loving cliche.

Toasticle posted:

And I swear when I watched blazing saddles a few years ago they added in Cleavon Little saying "Thats my arm" after Madeline Kahn was saying "It's soooo big!". It's been so long since seeing the original but I don't remember that line.

Alhazred posted:

Skyfall heavily implied that Bond is bi.

Inescapable Duck posted:

Even Casino Royale had Bond being quite cavalier when being whipped in the balls by a guy. Bond is a sexually liberated killing machine.

LogisticEarth posted:

https://youtu.be/jhozx819izU

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

I think it's because a lot of people mistake 'protagonist' for 'automatic good person.'

Tsaedje posted:

We're much more used to unconventional looking celebrities, plus a combination of don't judge a book by its cover, "if he was actually as creepy as he seems they'd never allow him on TV, surely?" and his carefully constructed smokescreen of charitable work. Harmless eccentricity has been a staple of British celebrity for so long, when you have someone who's not actually harmless they blend in more than you might think.

Sweevo posted:

I read/watched a bunch of stuff about Saville after it all came out, and it seems that he had a real knack for kind of bamboozling people with the strength of his personality. It was his utter confidence in the face of authority, and his way of taking charge in any conversation that meant he could always turn things round to how he wanted people to see them. Whatever the situation, he knew how to impress his view of it onto others, and used that to either talk his way out of trouble or just steer things away from the subject. There's an old Louis Theroux episode where he spent a week with Saville and barely managed to get anything out of him. Every question Louis asked already had a pre-prepared answer ready - answers that served more to end the conversation and deflect from the question without actually saying anything.

Krispy Wafer posted:

I feel like Baby Boomers and the Greatest Generation retro-conned a lot of terrible stuff to make the past look more Ozzie and Harriet. Lolita was titillating because the title character was 12, which is as young as you can get and have her still be a woman. Would anyone have even cared if she was 14?

Infyrno posted:

There was a fairly recent SVU episode

Hyrax Attack! posted:

James Bond made more sense after learning he was calling Judi Dench “ma’am”, not “mum”

Mister Kingdom posted:

Actually, that would be a good idea. I can think of a song or two that would be rendered obsolete by modern technology.

Ein cooler Typ posted:

James Bond didn't rape Pussy Galore

Goldfinger told her to gently caress him to keep him happy

Wheat Loaf posted:

Yes, I heard about that. I suppose blackface was acceptable back when he last did it. In 2010-2011.

Mister Adequate posted:

I don't think he was saying it was less offensive, I think the argument was that the offense has a harder time getting traction, because yeah we have been incredibly terrible about race relations in this country and the only reason we're not far worse off is because of other policies that incidentally take the worst edges off racism; the NHS treats everyone so it's harder to create a situation of BME people having vastly inferior healthcare; only a very small proportion of our coppers carry guns as a matter of course, which makes it harder to execute black men in the streets.

It is not remotely difficult to find people here who yearn for the Empire, and who think getting upset about blackface or Gollywog dolls is absolute twaddle. Which I guess makes a kind of sense; If you think the Empire that starved millions of Bengalis within living memory and brutally exploited Africa, for two examples, was a good thing, then yeah you've probably made your peace with 'mere' racist imagery and symbolism.

Still better than the Dutch though.

Perestroika posted:

He was also pretty great in Ghost Rider 2, Kick-rear end, and particularly Bad Lieutenant. Basically Cage seems to need a particular kind of director who's capable of really harnessing the full Cage insanity and making it work well.

Mister Kingdom posted:

That genre survived into the 70s with "Run Joey Run". Abusive father, dead daughter. I give it points for being waaaaay over the top.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT2LGv-s3xQ

A B-side, but in the same style:

R Dean Taylor's "Back Street" - Guy's girlfriend gets pregnant by another guy. He dumps her. Her family disowns her. Her friends abandon her. She has the baby and has to become a prostitute to feed her baby. One night, she has had enough. Leaves the baby at the former boyfriend's house and is found dead in the street the next morning. Merry Christmas, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91jHsCfkXxU

quote:

You think that I don't feel love
But what I feel for you is real love
In other's eyes I see reflected
A hurt, scorned, rejected

Love child, never meant to be
Love child, born in poverty
Love child, never meant to be
Love child, take a look at me

I started my life in an old, cold run down tenement slum
My father left, he never even married mom
I shared the guilt my mama knew
So afraid that others knew I had no name

This love we're contemplating
Is worth the pain of waiting
We'll only end up hating
The child we maybe creating

Love child, never meant to be
Love child, (scorned by) society
Love child, always second best
Love child, different from the rest

Mm, baby (hold on, hold on, just a little bit)
Mm, baby (hold on, hold on, just a little bit)
I started school, in a worn, torn dress that somebody threw out
I knew the way it felt, to always live in doubt
To be without the simple things
Sop afraid my friends would see the guilt in me

Don't think that I don't need you
Don't think I don't wanna please you
No child of mine 'll be bearing
The name of shame I've been wearing

Love child, love child, never quite as good
Afraid, ashamed, misunderstood

Beachcomber posted:

I enjoy gender swapped "Baby it's cold outside"

Detective No. 27 posted:

Steel Panther is all too self-aware about that.

oldpainless posted:

Racism is bad but I always laugh at “me so solly” and I probably always will

God Hole posted:

The whole psychopath/OCD angle of Julia Roberts' villainous husband in Sleeping With the Enemy is already pretty silly by today's standards, but it's downright hilarious when we come upon a scene that's supposed to be DRIPPING with menace, when Roberts' husband is working out intently in some kind of hate-induced trance, but instead he's just flailing around on some outdated stairmaster.

BiggerBoat posted:

I was always in the minority in that I never found South Park all that funny past a few episodes (Lord of the Rings, WoW, Nintendo) and never got the fuss about it but, man, that poo poo took off like wild fire. It was almost Simpsons levels for a while but the writing was never clever and certainly not subtle, which is how I prefer my humor.

For a while, I chalked it all up to personal taste and presumed that I was the one out of the loop on what's funny - which I guess I was and still am, really.

There's Something About Mary and Baseketball have held up terribly, while Office Space, KotH, Idiocracy and Beavis & Butthead seem to hold pretty solid ground. Seems to me that Mike Judge has always had the eye for social satire that Matt and Trey always wished they had, where they substituted edgy poo poo designed to offend in place of real satire.

Rirse posted:

Loved watching the Doctor Who episode "The Long Game" which has a subplot of one of the companions (who is from the year 2012 at the time of the episode aired in 2005) who uses a flipphone that been enhanced to dial at any point in history to their house to call his answering machine to store it.

Zamboni_Rodeo posted:

Original L&O rules, as long as we're talking about the episodes up until Briscoe's departure.

VideoGames posted:

My favourite thing about Columbo, and the reason I think it is my favourite detective show, is approaching every episode as Columbo being the villain. He often shows up so late into the story after we have gotten to know the antagonist of that week.

By the time he makes his apperance we get a much better idea of why a crime was committed (some of which even border into 'I wish they had gotten away with it') and the back and forth between the two leads is genuinely more interesting for it.

SEX BURRITO posted:

Lol, I looked up Rose Wilder and apparently she helped found the American Libertarian movement. So there's book after book about your mother almost starving to death, not being able to afford medical care, and the family almost going bankrupt to pay for school for your blind aunt to go to school, and yet your politics go THAT way?

Samovar posted:

drat. King Priam was centuries before his time.

sweeperbravo posted:

I had a problem with the Departed for this reason. I watched it like 11 years ago so I don't remember more specifically, but I could not distinguish Matt Damon and Leo DiCaprio and Mark Wahlberg reliably enough to make sense of the plot.

Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:

The dude's from Fulton, New York, basically racism central

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'm pretty sure this inspired me to watch the new Bad Lieutenant: http://www.somethingawful.com/news/bad-lieutenant-movie/1/

quote:

6. More than one consecutive minute of a man staring into the camera

Ambitious Spider posted:

Now the xfiles revival... ugh

At least the second movie had the feel of a solid two parter

business hammocks posted:

Also, abusers are more likely than an average person to lie for sympathy or attention.

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

"i got someone you're gonna love 'im!"

"Can he fight?"

"you betcha!"

"Can he act?"

"uhh sure"

"Can he run in a manly fashion?"

*pained expression*

Krispy Wafer posted:

Eh, Raymond is still really good though. That and Friends benefited from fantastic writing. Raymond especially since it was so character driven and didn't use current events. Those will probably still be watched like Columbo and the Dick Van Dyke show.

BBT seems to focus too much on current events and pop-culture references that are going to be lost on anyone whose not a gen-X manchild.

Davros1 posted:

While not a modern remake, might want to check out Without a Clue, where it's revealed that Doctor Watson, played by Ben Kingsley, is actually the brilliant detective. Reginald Kincaid, played by Michael Caine, was a drunk, out of work actor Watson hired to play the fictional Sherlock once the public demanded to meet the star of his stories.

MariusLecter posted:

Schmeichy posted:

Speaking of Colbert and misplaced faith in things, has he made any jokes about the recent Catholic scandals?

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

the thing is, while it hasn't been confirmed outright by him, it's sort of an open secret that Gunn was himself molested by a pedo priest (or at the bare minimum people he was very close to were)

the pedo jokes are pretty bluntly him trying to deal with his trauma through dark humor, not him being a fuckhead for the sake of it

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Apparently Gunn knows some people personally who were victims of pedophile priests or has at least alluded to it.

GoutPatrol posted:

I had a dream last night where my rear end turned into a ham and two people slowly ate me until I jumped out of a window to kill myself.

Krispy Wafer posted:

Except she kind of was losing her mind. I think her assets are still being controlled by her father and Kevin Federline managed to sole primary custody of their kids, which is something no one ever saw coming. The way Spears was treated was bullshit, but she wasn't mentally well.

Mister Kingdom posted:

Craig Ferguson stopped making fun of her, as well.

Choco1980 posted:

Yeah, I appreciated the way South Park treated Michael Jackson as well, mostly because that's always been my view of him too--I always thought he was innocent of pedophilia, but was instead a deeply mentally ill man whose insanely abusive childhood kinda prevented him from properly maturing psychologically and emotionally, who then happened to be talented enough that the whole world was handed to him on a platinum platter.

hard counter posted:

in the end reform should always be attempted even if you doubt whether it can undo what's been done or if you think the pervasiveness of the existing situation limits the scope of reform too much to be meaningful - reform is the kind of thing that builds on itself once you get the ball rolling after all, i'm not catholic so i don't know what things they actually want from their institution but if catholics do want reform i say let them try?

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Even the Venture Bros parody of Michael Jackson (combined with Superman and Batman, and voiced by Kevin Conroy) played to that angle; not a pedophile, he doesn't fit the profile compared to actual predators, but a hosed up man with no one to say no to him trying to relive his childhood while having a screwed up sense of boundaries and normalcy.

The Bloop posted:

It's not really an opinion, more of a hypothesis, but here goes: he was hosed in the head, and he might have had "inappropriate" contact but it probably wasn't from the position of a predator as much as from trying to be a kid himself while still having some "adult" aspects is himself due to being physiologically fully adult.

In other words, he probably did wrong but from a place of innocence or confusion rather than attempting something he knew to be harmful.

He was not neurotypical and judging the morality of his motivations like someone who was is unfair.

Probably.

Doesn't mean he should have been given the opportunity though, obviously.

Krispy Wafer posted:

She's royal, they're full of blood borne illnesses, but I don't think HIV was one of them.

It's weird how many famous people had HIV. Just off the top of my head there are the obvious ones like Arthur Ashe, but then you had the less reported ones such as Issac Asimov and Denholm Elliott and the bad guy in AirBud. It really hollowed out a whole generation.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Meteor Man is a classic. It’s no joke probably one of the few films with a black voice behind it to get made in that era.

Bogus Adventure posted:

They're probably referring to things like the Ron Swanson Pyramid of Greatness:

CharlestheHammer posted:

Plaza is actually pretty good actress I think you confuse not liking the character with the actress