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LITERALLY A BIRD: Sep 27, 2008; I knew you were trouble
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Tobias and Ax had the best books and that they had to share a line-up slot was a travesty

# ¿ Apr 29, 2019 17:41

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# ¿ Apr 18, 2024 06:57

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Twenty years later and every time I pass a Cinnabon I think of him

# ¿ Apr 29, 2019 18:27

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My Side of the Mountain, The Far Side of the Mountain, and Frightful's Mountain, which from what I gathered was from the perspective of the bird, and which I yet somehow never read.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2019 20:39

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Len posted:

After reading that and the line where they decided to by gypsy's again I'm 99% positive it's just white people who do crafts.

one thousand percent.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2019 04:11

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FilthyImp posted:

Oliver and Company was the one film I spent all my childhood wanting to find because it was everywhere when I was a kid and I never got a chance to watch it in theatres.

I think it got shoved in the disney vault pretty quickly. So my childhood is littered with the drat Christmas ornaments from MickeyD's and the dumb song clip that ran in commercials and trailers that goes "Why should I worry! Why should I ca-ah-are" but next to nothing about the film itself aside from Cheech Marin chihuahua

I re-watched Oliver and Company circa 2012 and was startled to discover Billy Joel voiced Dodger (singing street dog).

# ¿ Aug 25, 2019 05:55

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Big Mad Drongo posted:

the later Wizardries are about chasing an evil space man and feature two galactic empires as neutral factions.

poo poo was bonkers, and I kind of miss that absolute silliness.

The DARK SAVANT! I was too young to have played the earlier Wizardies but god drat did I love 8. The manual had a bit about how the Dark Savant is threatening the universe and, the manual writer supposed, he went by that name to differentiate himself from any Green or Neon Purple Savants running around. Also after you recruited the bard character if you typed Backstreet Boys into his dialogue prompt box he would throw mad shade. Fun, funny, all around excellent game.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2019 10:00

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Mokinokaro posted:

He was a highlight for sure. I kinda like the MCU take as a more Alex Jones style broadcaster too.

I'm basically in love with this take.

Also holy poo poo I have been absently trying to remember the name of that sitcom for years, it was my absolute favorite. And I've learned John Leguizamo was not in fact Uncle Eddie. Thanks goons!

# ¿ Sep 28, 2019 05:00

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DACK FAYDEN posted:

Pharaoh says we have to call it Abra-kebab-aten now.

# ¿ Nov 1, 2019 23:23

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pentyne posted:

Love that TV episode where a bunch of forum users start arguing about the ethics and morality of police forces in America.

Yeah, let's put this topic to rest, please. I think we're all on the same side here, and this thread isn't the place to break that side down further.

re: Arrested Development, I was actually just thinking of the Steve Holt/Shemale shirt subplot the other day and ugh :whitewater:

I couldn't believe they thought that deserved a callback.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2020 03:55

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beep boop no more please

# ¿ Feb 23, 2020 04:19

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PHIZ KALIFA posted:

The True Fae in Lost can only exist in the context of stories told to them through the experiences of the mortals they keep. They need their mortals as a source of drama and conflict, because without constant distraction and engagement the True Fae weaken and perish. Despite being beings of sheer emotion and sensation, the Fae cannot feel anything, and must absorb the impact of the actions in the stories via their mortal proxies. The Fae might not even be the main characters in their stories, they just as often play supporting roles or even act as macguffans or the setting itself.
They can even assign different Titles to different aspects of themselves, thus playing multiple roles in their own story.
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A nurse steps from her car, and the world changes. Her neighbor's house has been replaced with an empty gravel pit. This pit is the Queen of Empty Hunger. There is a woman, a Blonde Government Busybody who wants to assist in this mission. Through the trials and tribulations of public governance, the Nurse is tested and changed. Her body shifts to accomodate the characters whirling around her, each one a different aspect of Government.
The nurse, being the only real one around, is pulled between competing aspects of the Fae. Her Nurturing is demanded of The Crippled Boy. Her Friendship is demanded by the Blonde Government Busybody. Her womb is claimed as sacrifice to The Supreme Manager, and afterwards, she is simply replaced with a new supporting cast of mortals.
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Johnny Karate is a Changeling, a human who found themselves transformed in the Durance but managed to somehow escape back into the mortal realm. Still, he dreams of the unearthly delights and profound torments of the Fae, and can only silence this lust by losing himself in music and the pornographic violence of mixed martial arts fights.
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The Stoic was her first, and still greatest success. He was also the simplest to crack, a simple palm strike to the foundation was enough to ruin him utterly, no matter how proudly he still stands. In fact, leaving his personality intact was her cruelest stroke of all, for now he knows he has made himself a lie, the strong and silent survivalist who knows, deep in his heart of hearts, that he loves his coworkers and yearns for an emotional closeness his rigid masculinity will never afford.

# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 06:44

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You're doing great.

# ¿ Apr 1, 2020 07:08

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Be advised, thread, that if I must quash a third pedophilia conversation this afternoon I will be deeply upset.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 02:52

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christmas boots posted:

happy easter

# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 03:13

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Samuringa posted:

Happy monday, birdmod.

hnnnnng

# ¿ Apr 13, 2020 23:45

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Shut up Meg posted:

Betcha regret accepting that offer to be a mod now.

I sincerely care about this community and most everybody here, and I feel as though I owe you all a debt of gratitude for unknowingly getting me through some rough years. Learning -- or trying to learn -- to be unbiased, patient, and firm but respectful has made me a better person offline too. I'm glad to be PYF mod.

but I also really fckin hate you guys sometimes

# ¿ Apr 14, 2020 00:44

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SiKboy posted:

Dujour supremecy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwykvrwvWW4

this guy knows what's up.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2020 20:28

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Torquemada posted:

Kitty Pryde, more like Kitty Prejudice should be the new thread title and it�s not even close.

I did the other one because coming across Sir Lemmings' post as a surprise punchline was super funny and I thought that making it a thread title spoiled the joke. But your wish is my command

# ¿ May 9, 2020 15:41

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ilmucche posted:

When I was 12 or so I saw a star Trek movie on a plane. I fell asleep but didn't realise it so the movie consisted of an alien coming out of a table, turning people to stone and exploding them followed by a space battle and the credits. Greatest movie I'd seen in my life to that point.

# ¿ May 14, 2020 08:08

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ookiimarukochan posted:

On the plus side he has some Good views on racism / transphobia, on the minus side I think it's been a good 40 years since he last wrote a book that didn't have a sexy child on the prowl for an adult man.

He's a pedophile, OP.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2020 01:05

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# ¿ Nov 30, 2020 21:38

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Walrus, I hope you feel like you are doing better these days.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2021 22:23

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bobjr posted:

https://twitter.com/treytylor/status/1360661970924556291?s=20

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

Holy Crows this makes me Smokin Mad

# ¿ Feb 14, 2021 04:00

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Humerus posted:

The only Sherlock adaptation worth watching is The Great Mouse Detective, actually.

I loved this movie :kimchi:

# ¿ Mar 21, 2021 01:57

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Blue Moonlight posted:

You�re correct in that it shouldn�t have been. Should have put the quotes around �acceptable� as well.

But that was pretty firmly in the days of justifying things like that with �well that�s historically accurate� or �we said it�s because of how good he was at football�. Or in the case of my high school, �well, he�s not being played by a black person�.

For what little progress we�ve made over the last 20 years, at least we�ve generally recognized that it isn�t OK.

Of course, those aren�t the only land mines for M*A*S*H - we also have casual misogyny for �Hot Lips Houlihan�, suggested sexual coercion with �Trapper John,� and �Augustus Bedford �Duke� Forrest,� an allusion to the founder of the goddamn KKK.

I have not seen the show, did not know the name in question, and googled up a list of M*A*S*H characters; and wow, encountering it for the first time in 2021 is pretty -- :yikes:

I mean, it's bad for any time period, but... goodness.

# ¿ Apr 5, 2021 00:24

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Jezebel posted:

https://youtu.be/dl8_HL-Pf9c

# ¿ May 12, 2021 18:45

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I just want to say thanks to the folks who mentioned the book "House Next Door", I bought a Kindle copy last night and I am hooked.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2021 21:20

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Ugly In The Morning posted:

And also enjoy the works of the Barenaked Ladies.

Like I super don�t like Ellie trash cakes and she don�t like me but she is making some stellar work.

I have enjoyed BNL (pre-Page departure) for twenty years and don't understand the joke you are making here, please help.

I also don't understand why the dig at Ellie was necessary

# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 08:26

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I've got you, friend :negative:

# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 08:33

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zakharov posted:

Yes a page full of people who agree that BNL are some of the great songwriters of our time.

Steven Page's solo stuff is also excellent. The first post-Steve BNL album is good but they've since become a fine but forgettable band. They miss his voice badly, both literally and in the songwriting.

I saw Steven solo in 2019 while he was promoting Discipline (fantastic album) and he's still amazing. He played War on Drugs, which caught me off guard and is a song that has resonated with me in a very powerful, painful way for the entire fifteen years since it came out. It puts a lot of my own demons into words in a way nobody/nothing else has ever been able to, including myself, and I cried through the whole thing. :saddowns:

After the show I told him this and he said very gravely, "Well, I'm glad you had such a nice time."

The guy owns. He seems happier these days and I'm really glad for it.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 21:46

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For those unfamiliar with Steven Page, please enjoy this very uptempo and also intensely self-loathing ditty from Discipline. It's extremely Page and just 77 seconds, you've got time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5tsjc06stg

# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 22:36

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packetmantis posted:

Fuuuck I feel the same way about War on Drugs. Stop being me, Bird!!!

LITERALLY PACKETMANTIS :3:

but also condolences on relating to War on Drugs :lol:

# ¿ Aug 10, 2021 00:27

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Jedit posted:

I remembered Dushku being in the movie but never heard about the abuse.

Of course Dushku is best known now for her work with Joss Whedon. Woman can't catch a break.

A comment on the compounding nature of sexual abuse was here, but, it is such an awful thing to start a new page with and also not even the thread for it really so I am going to just remove it. So how bout that 90s homophobia, eh

# ¿ Sep 10, 2021 00:44

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Oh my god I hate this page snipe so much lol

# ¿ Sep 10, 2021 00:44

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MNIMWA posted:

Just read the synopsis of that episode: https://how-i-met-your-mother.fandom.com/wiki/Perfect_Week

jesus

You seriously buried the lede here :lol:

I am just going to quote the entire thing because I am floored by how many disgusting misogynistic details there are in here. Seriously just stunned.

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Future Ted starts off by explaining that Barney's way of dealing with stress was imagining he was being interviewed by sportscaster Jim Nantz, who listed Barney's many accomplishments with women. Barney explains that it all started a week ago, when he issued himself a challenge. At MacLaren's, he "called his shot," pointing out a woman at the bar and saying she'd be the one he'd go home with that night. Thus began his attempt at a "perfect week," defined as having sex with seven women in seven days without a single rejection.

The rest of the gang is having a less-than-stellar week. Robin went out on bad date, but becomes insecure when he won't call her back. Ted laughed at a student's name ("Cook Pu") after assuming it was a fake name added to the roster as a prank, leading her to drop the class. Marshall and Lily drive away another couple on a double date when they let slip that they use the same toothbrush. Ted and Robin soon realize they also, at one point, used that same brush.

After four days, Barney's streak is unbroken, but on the fifth night, Marshall is worried because a big merger at work fell through and Barney was getting blamed for it. He said he thought Barney might get fired. Still, Barney stands at the bar, trying to look confident. Marshall says that management were going to have a meeting on Friday to see if Barney would keep his job. Lily wants to talk to Barney, but Ted intervenes, and Barney asks him for help finding the dumbest girl in the bar, who Barney promptly takes home.

Nantz asks Barney if he'd ever used performance-enhancing drugs, but Barney said he respects "the game" too much. He said he'd been offered them before, and flashed back to a time when Marshall was grinning, but holding a pillow on his lap. He asked what time it was, then counted out four hours and realized he had to go to the hospital. Barney has a quickie on Staten Island to get through number six.

The gang continues to mock each other for their mistakes, making "poo jokes" at Ted's expense, mocking Robin's desperation for a man she doesn't even like, and sitting in judgement of Lily and Marshall's dental habits. When Barney stops by the apartment, Lily confronts him about losing his job, and utters the phrase "perfect week", jinxing Barney. Even Jim Nantz was stunned, saying, "There are two things you don't do: One, you don't open an e-mail from Phil Simms in front of your kids, and, two, you don't jinx a man going for a perfect week."

The next night, Lily is so confident that Barney was going to score with "third-martini girl" (Christy) at the bar, she says "there's no such thing as a jinx." The subsequent jinx leads to a member of the 2009 World Champion New York Yankees walking through the door: (Nick Swisher). The gang is convinced Barney's streak was over. Robin doesn't get the appeal of a Yankee, so Lily compares it to the appeal to her of a Vancouver Canucks' player.

Christy starts to walk over to Nick Swisher and a dejected Barney comes over to the table figuring his week was a waste and he was going to get fired the next day. In the awkward silence, Lily realizes they all needed Barney's perfect week to make them feel better. She gets up and trips in front of Christy. She asks Christy to get her some ice, and Marshall and Ted run to sit by Swisher, starting a conversation about sharing toothbrushes. Nick comments that he loves hockey, making Robin hot and bothered.

Meanwhile, Christy, who receives a fourth martini from Barney, says they should go back to his place. As she heads outside, Barney stops for high fives and a hoisting onto shoulders in triumph. His conversation with Jim Nantz over, Barney goes in to talk with the boss. Barney keeps his job, and his boss says it must have been a stressful time for him. "I barely slept," Barney says.

Back at the bar, the gang commemorates Barney's week by retiring the tie he wore on the seventh day and Ted claims he'll never tell his kids about this story, which makes Future Ted doubt his qualifications to be a parent. Later, we see Ted accidentally embarrass Cook Pu once again when she picks up take-out at MacLaren's.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2021 02:34

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GoutPatrol posted:

Not really. After Buffy goes to UPN he goes more hands off and Marti Noxon becomes show runner. With the exception of the musical (which has Whedon's fingerprints all over) seasons 6-7 are seen as a decline.

Really? I think when people make the list of best Buffy episodes, it would always be dominated by "Hush" "Innocence" "Restless" "The Body" "Once More With Feeling" and "The Gift" - all Whedon written and directed.

I only watched the show once and it was back in the early 00s, but I had to check and make sure one particular episode wasn't one of the listed ones (I did not recall the episode name). I remember "Normal Again" (Buffy is a regular young woman and in a psychiatric ward for her "delusions") as being one of the least feminist things I've ever seen. It really grossed me out then and still does now. That and the "Spike loves her so much he tries to rape her in her bathroom" episode are both pretty high ranking on the list of things that were blatantly not "feminism" even at the time. I've never rewatched it and still never intend to rewatch it due to the taste both of those episodes left in my mouth. I don't know how hands off "hands off" means exactly but I don't think that anybody who truly cared about young women and providing them a strong character to look up to would have allowed an episode that absolutely annihilates the young heroine's sense of agency like that* to air.

To be completely clear, my Google shows me "Normal Again" wasn't one that he wrote. I didn't check for the Spike one. It is however an episode that is apparently a enormous touchstone for the online Buffy community and that tells me what I need to know about those people too.

*this sentence is specifically referring to "Normal Again", but it's fun that it basically applies to both the things in this post, no?

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# ¿ Jan 16, 2022 09:13

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It's not misogyny the way you're thinking of it. I was watching it as a young woman and the message it was selling was that a young woman isn't actually capable of being strong and smart and powerful. She's in denial and crazy.

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# ¿ Jan 16, 2022 09:30

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BioEnchanted posted:

I see, so the problems are actually completely SEPARATE from it being an early-2000s portrayal of a mental health facility. So doubly bad :P

yes, the facility depiction did not do it any favors. I left out that part because as you said, that's just early 00s mental health facility depiction for you

# ¿ Jan 16, 2022 09:49

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800peepee51doodoo posted:

"Strong" doesn't, or shouldn't, mean powerful or influential even. To me, it means a character with a strong sense of self and will to actualize their goals.

Yeah following up on my somewhat unfocused one am post lol, this is what I meant by "Normal Again" being a gross episode. Buffy is arguably defined by that strong sense of self/ability to actualize her goals more than her physical strength. That is what I'm talking about when I say she's powerful. That episode took away that sense of self and ability to overcome terrible hardship in a pointless, incredibly exploitative way.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2022 02:44

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# ¿ Apr 18, 2024 06:57

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I AM GRANDO posted:

Here�s the whole article, as a series of twitter images. The guy�s a monster:

https://twitter.com/Mainterrio/status/1483069934066618373/photo/1

He�d have to be a total narcissist to give that interview and think he would look like a human being. I don�t think this article could be called an attempt to rehabilitate his image, even if he thinks it was an attempt at that.

Jesus loving Christ.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2022 21:30

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