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RC and Moon Pie posted:Did Married With Children have any opinions that are really awful in retrospect? Way back in the thread because it's moving fast, but there was that episode where the punchline was that this really amazing sexy woman that they were going to build a whole brand on turned out to be transgender, which ruined one of their get-rich-quick schemes. Can't remember the episode title, but I have thought about it, as well as of Ace Ventura, as comedy that thankfully wouldn't be done today.
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Mister Kingdom posted:I don't recall that one, but there was an episode where a customer in the shoe store mistook Marcy for Bruce Jenner.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADiq-EYObkM
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oldpainless posted:Roadhouse More like oldexplainless
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Oh yeah, I remember that: and the lady was banging Bud and then she admits to her sex change on television and leaves Bud there in stunned horror. Almost forgot about that one. I suddenly remembered what the project was - a calendar. The episode is appropriately called Calendar Girl. Also, speaking of Amanda Bearse, don't forget the episode where she also played her lesbian identical cousin, Mandy, in Lez Be Friends. Al somehow manages to be the one getting Marcy to accept that, I remember him being a dick about it somehow, but vaguely. Absurd Alhazred has a new favorite as of 07:26 on Aug 13, 2017 |
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Leavemywife posted:I'll be damned, that's right. It's been a long time since I watched Buffy. "You had sex with Giles? You had sex with Giles! On the top of a police car?! TWICE?!"
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Coucho Marx posted:There's actually one episode ('Home') that talks about this in a meta sort of way - characters in the story talk about how their once quiet home is changing, growing closer to the cities, if not physically then at least culturally. It's hard for what's going on in the story to happen again, as time and technology advances and everything becomes so much more interconnected than before. I was just thinking about this episode recently. I feel like it started the trend of expecting horrible things to happen as soon as you hear mellow '50s music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvzNeh4Mq1o Alhazred posted:"We can work out after school, you know, if you're not too busy having sex with my mother!" Owned.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:If you are from anywhere in America which isn't San Francisco, L.A., Chicago, Boston, or New York proper you get reeaaallllyyy excited when the national media remembers you exist, even if its derogatory. Can confirm. Despite the fact that I've only lived here for less than a decade, I get a warm feeling whenever Albany, NY or any of the cities or towns in the area get mentioned, even derisively. Alhazred posted:No. The british government is portrayed as unambiguously bad guys for using bio-weapons and launching them at south London. I mean, the whole comic starts out with the quote "The British Empire has always encountered difficulty in distinguishing between its heroes and its monsters" so I really doubt that Moore is going all ""UK gently caress yeah! I couldn't actually get past the first few pages of LoEG because it starts with one of the protagonists almost being raped by Arab caricatures who spoke clearly miswritten Arabic only to be saved by a Great White Hero.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Well, like I said: I don't know enough about the franchise or apparently Victorian adventure pulps to understand how these two relate. 
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Pick posted:I'm sorry dorkwads, but Alan Moore is actually just a really lovely writer who doesn't actually get what makes something good and is pretty much the poster boy for pseudo-edgy white guys who think they're smarter than everyone else. He's no Neil Gaiman.
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Besesoth posted:Let's talk about how well Predator and 48 Hours aged so I can feel better about Sonny Landham dying. (I haven't seen them in ages and I'm away from home, someone else go first.) "Get to the choppa" will never die, so Predator definitely does not belong in this thread. 
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Josef bugman posted:There was a guy on these forums who described Neil Gaiman as "someone who is such a good genre writer he has transcended it's limitations and become a very bad normal writer". Sandman remains a masterpiece, though.
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Guy Mann posted:Arthur is full of weird celebrity cameos that have aged terribly, whether due to irrelevance or death or controversy or how horrifying the animal-ized likenesses are. Backstreet Boys, ?, Lance Armstrong and ?
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someone awful. posted:Good news, you're wrong and it was Everything has at least one fan wiki.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Are you being ironic or did you not know 7th Heaven was back on the air within a year of being shelved? The only Cosby episode they should ever air is this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBDRwiSZSBg
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bobjr posted:It's not just the Duggars. Almost every show that follows a family on that channel ends up with something hosed up about them, and it's usually pedophilia. When I was a kid, the one TV channel in Israel had a show called "Family Connection", which was kind of a proto-reality show, with families coming on to talk to a therapist about their parenting issues. Eventually they would have actors play the parts instead of showing the family, for the sake of their privacy. (Kind of the anti-Jerry Springer, in that sense). Since then one of the therapists on the show was convicted of molesting and assaulting some of his clients, while another turns out to have raped a minor under his care for 12 years, although this was exposed only after his death, so he was never put on trial. I don't think it's really been big in reruns, but I doubt I could watch the show the same way now anyway.
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muscles like this! posted:He didn't want anything to do with movie adaptations long before Watchmen. IIRC his main issue with adaptations is that people were constantly bugging him about them when he had (and wanted) no involvement. Like he asked for his name to be taken off credits after V for Vendetta when Joel Silver started making claims that he approved of what they were doing with it. Movie version was better than the source material, maybe that's why.
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Choco1980 posted:Exactly. I like a LOT of what Moore has written, but I couldn't even finish Lost Girls. It's just a porn mad-lib where he inserts Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, and Peter Pan characters for no real benefit, while trying to come up with as many different positions and taboos as possible. The worst part is that he definitely went way too deep with the sex writing, as he wrote the third volume of the series at around the same time as the big "Black Dossier" book for League, and the latter ends up being like, half sex scenes. I liked the non-sex parts of that book, especially since I'm a sucker for those "spot the reference" type pastiches like LoEG and Anno Dracula, but the sex parts added very little to the narrative. There's a big long part that's a diary from Fanny Hill and how she formed up her generation of the League, and it's just like, non-stop orgies that very strongly deviate from the characterizations of the people in it. Honestly, Moore having to roll with this misstep might be a major factor in why Century isn't quite as good afterwards. I do strongly appreciate the trilogy of spin-off books about Nemo's daughter, Janni Diver's adventures better, and the people who only like the first two volumes of League would probably enjoy it. I wonder if there's some kind of syndrome both he and Heinlein suffered from, where you start obsessively pushing sex scenes into everything you write in your later years.
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John Big Booty posted:It seems to happen with a lot of sci-fi/speculative/fantasy authors. It did get a lot more about sexual imprinting later on, didn't it? Also:  http://i.imgur.com/Nhezls0.jpg
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Aesop Poprock posted:Sandman series is up there with Watchmen I think but I wouldn't call Gaiman better I don't think that Gaiman's ever written anything better than Sandman. Sad, really.
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Tiggum posted:Watchmen's plot is copied almost exactly from The Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut. Moore just added super heroes. I read the latter a few years ago, and didn't notice a connection. Could you elaborate?
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Tiggum posted:I was exaggerating a bit, but there are some pretty striking similarities. If you combine Adrian Veidt and Dr Manhattan then you basically get Winston Niles Rumfoord, and the whole plot of each leads up to a fake alien invasion engineered by Veidt/Rumfoord to bring about world peace. There's also some similarities between Veidt using Manhattan and manipulating him into exiling himself to Mars and Rumfoord using Malachi Constant and then having him exiled to Titan. But the alien is real, and in fact aliens were the ones manipulating everything to begin with.
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Tiggum posted:There is a real alien but the invasion is fake. I'm going to have to reread, seems like.
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Kit Walker posted:I feel that the increased acceptance of poly relationships is going to make a lot of love-triangle-based dramas age poorly. Like, if you two really love that other person and they reciprocate your feelings then maybe just roll with it? Sheesh. Yeah, I remember feeling that way about the Bill/Sookie/Eric triangle in True Blood. She even has a dream where they're all making love, and then she breaks up with them because that's just not right.  Caprica had a kind of polyamorous marriage going on, but they ended up being the villains, so I don't know if that really fits the bill.
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Guy Mann posted:Much like how TCC has done more to scare me off of drug use than any actual anti-drug propaganda, /r/relationships has done more to convince me that poly relationships are terrible than a lifetime living in this heteonormative thought prison we call America. Most real life poly relationships I know have been shitfests, too. But on occasion they work. But you don't even have to go as far as polyamory, just open relationships, period. If Sheldon is so asexual that it's a struggle for him to even hug Amy, maybe it makes more sense for her to get sex, which she realizes she does want, elsewhere. (Although she should have left Sheldon a gazillion times because of how abusive he is, why do I keep hate-watching this show someone send help!)
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Wheat Loaf posted:Rat Race? The end of Rat Race is basically a Smash Mouth music video. There's a bunch of late 90s / early 00s conedy films where the band playing the soundtrack single shows up. I don't know if it was consciously emulating 1950s teen movies but it's not aged well, because it was almost always ska bands. Close: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTenL3W6Oj0
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Thanks whoever linked the Dear Sister skit and the original OC S2 finale. I was reading the description, turns out that skit aged poorly almost immediately:quote:On April 16, 2007, two days following the initial air date of the sketch, the Virginia Tech shooting occurred and became the deadliest school shooting in modern U.S. history.[56][57] Noam Cohen of the New York Times criticized fans of the short for insensitivity when they continued to make YouTube videos based on it.[55] 
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Sweevo posted:Street Sharks is a great example of how everything on the internet is lies: Pro click.
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hard counter posted:this is super duper off topic now but priests don't get off the hook because they're priests and have powerful institutions to grant them some kind of weird legal immunity, they get off because claims made decades after the fact are unpleasantly difficult to prove within a reasonable doubt even when there's a massive pile of allegations, Cosby has almost no friends left in the world but he still managed a jury deadlock on similar grounds, priests still get sentenced to jail when the evidence is solid and no amount of organized religion is gonna save them, or even want to save them, outside of other criminals like that archbishop who secretly harbored and shuttled pedophiles before getting found out, defrocked and tried himself But that's exactly the point. You're ignoring the issue that extra-judiciary power relations can make it very hard for any kind of legal consequences to come to someone in any position of power. Organized religion is a big one because it also has this parallel system for norms, laws, and counseling that can be very hard to break out of, but systems like Hollywood, where a lot of your ability to succeed depends on the connections you make and the often arbitrary decisions of established power, particularly execs of the major film studios and distribution companies.
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muscles like this! posted:Or, you know, just a regular fake mustache. "But my immersion!!" 
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LeafyOrb posted:It's been my experience that most shows with pretty bad first seasons in the fantasy/Sci-fi genre tend to be really good in the long run and last a decent while. Meanwhile shows with excellent first seasons tend to become garbage pretty quick like Sleepy Hollow. The first season of Babylon 5 is famously bad; fortunately I actually started watching the show late in the second season (pretty sure Divided Loyalties was the one), and caught up with the rest through reruns.
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Tiggum posted:I heard Babylon 5 was really good and watched about five episodes before giving up. I guess I'll give it another look at some point if the second season is as big an improvement as that. It breaks my heart to say this, but I'm not sure how easy it would be for someone with today's sensibilities to enjoy Babylon 5. The quality of acting and production values you would expect from a multi-season epic, much less a science fiction one, are not really there. I'd say Battlestar Galactica is what I'd tell people to watch now. But B5 will always be special for me.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Adidas is short for Adolf Dassler who founded Adidas. His brother Rudolf founded Puma. Both of them were in the NSDAP(Nazis). They weren't very good Nazis: quote:By the 1936 Summer Olympics, Adi Dassler drove from Bavaria on one of the world's first motorways to the Olympic village with a suitcase full of spikes and persuaded U.S. sprinter Jesse Owens to use them, the first sponsorship for an African American. Following Owens' haul of four gold medals, his success cemented the good reputation of Dassler shoes among the world's most famous sportsmen. Letters from around the world landed on the brothers' desks, and the trainers of other national teams were all interested in their shoes. Business boomed and the Dasslers were selling 200,000 pairs of shoes every year before World War II.
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Instant Sunrise posted:The Andy Griffith spinoff Gomer Pyle USMC was incredibly dated right from the start. It came out in the midst of the Vietnam war and just it didn't acknowledge that at all, despite being set on a Marine Corps base. I had no idea that's where the nickname "Gomer Pyle" in Full Metal Jacket came from. FreudianSlippers posted:I think a lot of the time it's people going "Hey I can't be racist. My great-grandfather was discriminated against which means I am basically a minority and can therefore say whatever I want about current minority groups." I ran into something similar on the bus a few days ago. A woman was there with her child, she was white and the child was black, so this guy says "oh, is that kid yours? I thought it was hers" and points at some black woman in the back. The mother freaks out at him, of course; fortunately, he gets off a station or too later, but not before saying something like "you think I'm racist? What if I told you I was Native American?!"
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Magnus Manfist posted:Isn't that the point? They're dicks. Stuff like Tony complaining about how black people get all these special scholarships and stuff while there's nothing for the poor Italians (never mind the fact that I'm a millionaire crime lord), or getting pissed off about schools teaching about Columbus as a colonist rather than just venerating him as a Great Italian Hero. They're the mobster equivalent of Fox News whingeing that white Christians are the real persecuted minority. There's episodes about how despite the big deal they make about their Italian heritage, they actually go to Italy and everyone thinks they're idiot American boors who can't speak Italian and don't know how to make spaghetti properly. Don't forget that in the Columbus Day episode, Furio, the guy sent in from the Neapolitan mafia to help Tony, says that they despise Columbus because he was from Northern Italy.
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Sarcopenia posted:Yes. If they'd put her as a protagonist those same people would complain that he show is focusing on this person's boring life instead of on her cool husband and his neato drug business.
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Sarcopenia posted:I don't think I get what you are trying to say here ? Kind of a verbose form of  ?
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EmmyOk posted:I've been watching Yes, Minister and in many way's it's aged incredibly well. It's from the 1980s but it had an episode about a Big Brother style database and it was amazing how similar it was to discussions around privacy and security around the time of the Snowden leaks and still now. However every now and then it has a drunk driving scene that's treated as funny and just a bit cheeky. Obviously that's something that was acceptable back then it just stands out all the more for how ahead of its time so many of its episodes are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYqB0uTKlE
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Sweevo posted:My problem with Musk is that he thinks things like space travel and electric cars are essentially solved problems that just need the right free-market libertard like him to throw enough money at them and then he can bask in glory forever. He's trying to buy his way to greatness. And idiot nerds buy into it 100% because they worship shitheads like Steve Jobs. What he's done best with so far are solved problems that were missing some crazy money, though. It's not like he invented putting people/things into orbit from scratch, NASA, ESA, the Soviet/Russian space organizations, etc, have shown profusely that this could be done. Electric cars came and went in prototype form for decades before Tesla came on the scene. Digging tunnels is not a completely novel enterprise. The bigger deal would be if SpaceX manages to solve any of the problems involved in sending people into months-long trips outside the loving embrace of the Van Allen belt, which is way more questionable.
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