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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
It's weird watching shows from the mid/late 90s where smoking was still kinda okay, especially when those shows run long enough to later use it to signify that a character is unlikeable.

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

I just watched a Futurama episode all about "EyePhones" and "Twitting" and Susan Boyle. I'd forgotten Futurama had episodes this bad.

That didn't age badly because everyone hated it at the time.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Wheat Loaf posted:

The Comedy Central series has some decent episodes (the one with the time machine that only goes forwards is funny).
Yeah, and the cop one, and the Prisoner of Zenda one, and the Da Vinci one, and the evolution one, Octoberfest one, and a bunch of others. The revival is a step down overall but it's got a lot of good stuff in there.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Besesoth posted:

You're not the first person I've seen say this and it makes me wonder which earlier episode has a scene like it. (Maybe the one where compound interest makes Fry a billionaire?)
The one with the $300 tax refund maybe?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Worf dealt with it pretty well the first time, he just really didn't want to have to deliver another baby.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
But it looked so easy in the simulations.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Inescapable Duck posted:

Nobody wants to make television easily available down under, but Crazy Ex-Girlfriend does sound like my jam.
Both seasons are on (Australian) Netflix.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Zeikier posted:

It's a prime example of a show you talked up to your friends and when you'd try to show it to them they'd air the worst episode. I won't miss that age of television.

Ah, so you've seen Mr Show too.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Mister Kingdom posted:

I had heard about the lawsuit.

And I just looked up the lyrics. Yikes.

The result of the lawsuit might age worse than the song.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:

Didn’t he have a show where he was giving people life advice?

The Marriage Ref, yeah.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Volcott posted:

Can you think of a show that's actively enriched by canned laughter? I sure can't.

If a show is a mix of studio scenes with a live audience and location / FX stuff I don't mind canned laughter / taped laughter for the latter stuff. Red Dwarf was like that.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

londonarbuckle posted:

Aren't most sitcoms a mixture of an actual live audience and canned laughter to cover up holes anyway? :shrug:
In general single camera sitcoms don't use a live audience at all.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Solice Kirsk posted:

Soooo, since Disney is openly supportive of the LGBT community, do you think this will have an effect on FoxNews at all? Or is that separate?

Separate.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
National Lampoon's European Vacation was on the other night and it's hard to find things in it that have aged well.

WampaLord posted:

That's not how gun ownership actually works though.

The vast majority of Americans own 0 guns, then there's another group of people who only own 1 gun, and then there's a tiny tiny amount of people who own 20+ guns each. This throws off the average.

The average American owns no guns.

Up until the mid 90s over 50% of American households had at least one gun, and it's only in the last few years it's dropped below 40%.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Inescapable Duck posted:

Like with most stereotypes, history and context matters. Asian accent jokes have a very long and very ugly history dating back to both shameless colonial exploitation of China and anti-Japanese WW2 propaganda which played up all manner of horrific stereotypes and slurs and was very widely disseminated.

Which also means they tend to be outdated and near incomprehensible to people who didn't grow up with such media (since most of it's been withdrawn from common circulation for being so drat racist) and thus age very poorly. Even modern Asian stereotypes are completely different now.
Yeah I was watching Tintin with my daughter and had forgotten about characters like this. It was an improvement over the earlier stuff since the Chinese characters in the story were relatively well done and the period / region was relatively accurately represented but yeeeesh.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Inspector Gesicht posted:

The villain being Japanese in Tintin is justified given the Japanese invasion of China in the early 30's. It helps that this point onwards Herge started doing the research which helped elevate Tintin from his origin as a crudely-drawn pro-Catholic pro-Belgian propaganda piece. The only real flubs down the line is stuff like the Incas not knowing about Eclipses.

Yeah, the Japanese characters in that story still end up looking like racist caricatures though. He continued to improve afterwards, and the TV series makes a few changes too.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Holt's favorite breakfast is plain toast, considers omelets a "vacation food", and was horrified that Amy and Jake were forced to endure "Jazz Brunch". I may have missed an episode but I am very certain that he does not love brunch.

They've been a bit inconsistent on Holt and food, at one point he talks favourably about Boyle's blog because it talks about "mouth feel".

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Jedit posted:

I could probably win a fair bit of cash in pubs with it if I could come up with the right question. As movie cameos that people forget go it's up there with Jim Carrey appearing in the last Dirty Harry movie.

Ben Affleck was in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie too.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Krispy Wafer posted:

Everything up through the 1970's was produced on film and even crappy film can generally be blown up/scanned with varying degrees of quality. For example, I think Sam Rami's first film ever was shot on 16mm and then blown up to 35mm. It looked terrible, but the fact that was even possible is a good indicator of film's versatility.

When videotape became a thing it pretty much took over TV since it was much cheaper and easier to use. But videotape doesn't have the same dynamic range as film and can't be blown up as easily. So you end up with a flat and muted look. And yes, that extends to porn. 1970's porn looks infinitely better than 1980's smut.

There was a time where some shows would shoot on film for outdoor scenes (largely because the cameras were more portable) and video for indoor work. It's really noticeable on some old British shows like Doctor Who and is the basis of this Monty Python sketch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-kfRREA8M

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

MikeCrotch posted:

Re. Office Space, that is increasingly aging poorly because the notion of someone having a well paying, secure job but somehow feeling "unfulfilled" is a very 90's trope (see also Fight Club and American Beauty among others) that is becoming increasingly unrelatable to people nowadays struggling just to get any kind of decent job. Not to mention that the biggest issue in society being workplace ennui seems bizarre when we are living through a literal nazi resurgence.
It's also a part of the first Matrix film, especially the early sections.

The bit of Fight Club where a bunch of disillusioned working/middle class white people get into a cult based on a toxic version of masculinity has aged pretty well though.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Wheat Loaf posted:

I've noticed that mobile phones seem to be uniquely effective at ageing TV and movies.

Computer screens are great too, especially with things like 4:3 LCDs which have a pretty narrow window of popularity.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Replicated food is frequently said to be inferior to actual stuff too.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
David Bowie too.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Maxwell Lord posted:

But that method also gave us The Prisoner which is possibly the greatest TV show of all time.

TV shows where the writers knew entirely what they were doing from beginning to end:

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I'm pretty sure they had plans for 6 seasons of Carnivale, which didn't prevent it getting cancelled after 2.

It's pretty impressive how much of Breaking Bad was done on the fly without a long-term plan.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

mostlygray posted:

That's the character. He never grows, if anything, he get's more selfish. That's the joke. Jean-Ralphio and Mona Lisa are there to show you how Tom is even worse than them at heart. You're not supposed to like him. He's a tiny, cute, sad idiot.
Tom, Jean-Ralpho and Mona Lisa were the worst parts of the show and any scene with several of them in it was a good reason to start looking at my phone.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

DACK FAYDEN posted:

I feel like Rise of Cobra was not big enough and I'd point to The Dark Knight Rises, but that's 2009 vs 2012 so it may well have been GI Joe somehow.

Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer was 2007, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines was 2003, Ziggy Stardust, the Third Reich, etc etc.

It's a pretty generic idea for a title.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Der Kyhe posted:

Although I used to be an engineer and liked the animated series. :(
Yeah I remember liking the animated series although I haven't watched it in years so maybe it aged terribly?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

That entire episode was full of bafflingly stupid decisions and that is just the most obvious one.

It's not the only show to have gone from good to bad but most of them take dozens of episodes to do it.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Patrick Stewart is considered a country bumpkin in england iirc.

Mu Zeta posted:

How? I thought he was a big pimp in the Royal Shakespeare Company
He grew up poor in Yorkshire, but you couldn't be an actor in England unless you could do RP. His native accent is fantastic and only semi-comprehensible.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
The "Read" part rhymes with "lead", if that helps.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Haschel Cedricson posted:

My friend Herb disagrees that Polish is the only one.

Depends where Herb lives.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

bamhand posted:

Genuine question, a lot of people were upset about that movie a couple years back that had a white guy play Michael Jackson. What was the correct solution for that one? A black actor in white face? Seemed kind of like a lose/lose situation there.

CGI. It's not like uncanny valley would have been a problem.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Angry Salami posted:

There's a basic rule that female Bajorans are cool and interesting, and male Bajorans are vague interchangeable beige lumps.

Anjohl Tennan was alright.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Ghost Leviathan posted:

And to get things slightly back on topic; the episode where the threat of Changeling infiltration gets Earth put under martial law has aged all too well.
As has the 2-parter where they talk about poor people in the early 21st century being shuffled into sanctuary cities (with a few throwaway lines about the breakup of Europe).

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Ghost Leviathan posted:

The episode of Frasier where Niles plays a video game just came to mind, and it is hilarious, remarably so given how most TV shows portrayed video games, and not just because games have changed since the 80s. (the main issue being how many writers never realised that) Any other cases where depictions of video games in a show HAVE aged well, or at least make sense taken as a period piece?

Spaced. I don't know if Jessica Stevenson is a huge nerd but Simon Pegg sure is.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Mu Zeta posted:

Firefly was popular before Hulu. It was perpetually on the top DVD sellers which is why they re-released it so many times.

Not to mention that the movie was released several years before Hulu existed.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
French animation in the 80s ruled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGOMnE26jNo

And Mysterious Cities of Gold.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Was it the voice acting? I don't remember much about the plot outside of the general outline, and of course, the flying golden condor.

The voice acting isn't great, the (decent) music cues get reused too often and the writing has the characters explain the plot frequently because it's written for young kids. It's a bit painful to watch as an adult.

The actual underlying story is cool and Mendoza (and his cape) are great though.

The Condor was really cool but before that you still had a solar powered ship with a loving death laser.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
The Olmecs were weird morlock-like people (with their own flying machine) and in the end the City of Gold is destroyed but the kids fly away on the Condor (to the sequel) and the good-ish Spaniards get a pile of treasure.

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Rirse posted:

And didn't it randomly get a Steam game a few years ago?

It's had two sequel series in the last few years as well.

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