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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Besesoth posted:

Community suffered a lot from NBC firing Dan Harmon at the end of season 3 and several of the seasoned writers walking off in protest. (That's why Starburns "dies".) All the actual development Harmon wanted to do was replaced by going back to the episodic "zaniness" of the first season in season 4, season 5 was Harmon trying to prove to NBC that he could still do the job they wanted him to, and season 6 was Harmon trying to prove to Yahoo that he could recoup their investment.

I've never knowingly seen a Dick Wolf or Speed Weed show (I don't even know what Speed Weed is), and I thought "Lupine Urology" was funny.
Season 6 is real good, though, and 5 is alright.

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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Leavemywife posted:

You guys remember the Pat sketches from SNL? Where the entire joke is if it's a man or woman? I never found that funny to begin with and it didn't get better with age.
They made a Pat movie.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

letthereberock posted:

At one point Helen Hunt uses a VR headset to simulate being on a date with Andre Agassi
This is the greatest thing I've ever heard

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Corrode posted:

a take hotter than the surface of the sun
That guy got super mad because Rick and Morty has women writers now, so he's railing against The PC Police, or PolCorPol.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

food court bailiff posted:

"Sister City", the Parks and Recreation episode with the visitors from Venezuela, is REALLY awkward now.
It was always one of the show's worst episodes, arguably the worst.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Volcott posted:

You forgot season 1.
Hence "arguably." Season 1 is real bad.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

food court bailiff posted:

Really? It had a few cringeworthy jokes and I'm not a huge Fred Arneson fan but I thought the episode itself was pretty funny compared to a lot of the other early run ones. It's almost worth it for April and Donna taking advantage of the horny officials the whole time alone.


...The issue is how Venezuela is presented as this semi-utopia with tons of government money (at the expense of freedom) and not, y'know, a country in a death spiral towards a civil war due to years of hyperinflation.
I don't enjoy Michael Schur's recurring "rich visitors come to poor area and humiliate protagonists" plot much. It wasn't great in Brooklyn 99, it's in two of the weaker P&R eps (Sister City and Eagleton in S3), and I assume it was in The Office but I never liked the Office.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Hyrax Attack! posted:

I was wondering about that episode, the forums seem to love Rick & Morty so I watched a few episodes including "Raising Gazprpazorp" and was baffled about why the show was considered genius. As someone else pointed out, this was below average Futurama laziness. Good to know that was an outlier, I'll need to go back and watch a few more.
I'm pretty sure the Gazorpazorp episode sets out to be a self-aware parody of those sorts of "planet of women/planet of men" sci-fi tropes, I just don't think it's clever enough to pull it off. It just ends up being the same thing.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Samovar posted:

I honestly can't say I found R&M to be that great, frankly. It seems... very formulaic.
It is, but that's sort of the point. It tries to put twists on classic SF plots.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

EmmyOk posted:

I felt like this from the first episode to be honest, I watched the whole first season thinking it'd get better because everyone was so into it and it didn't. Either they were making jokes about jokes and patting themselves on the back or just straight up doing. There didn't seem to be anything ironic or clever about the Britta/Jeff/Annie love triangle and most of the other humour left me cold. Also the best television show mocking television shows had already been made


You went in thinking Community is something it's not. It's just a sitcom. It's a fun, self-aware one, but if the jokes don't do it for you, you won't laugh. But it's not trying to be parody or commentary. It just knows what it is.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Disgusting Coward posted:

I know a dude who had a miniscule, tiny part in an am-dram version of Rent (he was the policeman who says "Right") and he ended up getting a tattoo of "Lover, I'll Cover You" on his forearms and let a dog gently caress him and eventually had to get hospital treatment because he'd gotten fisted too bad.


Rent: Not even once.
That escalated quickly.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

sassassin posted:

Because only ugly hulking jocks rape people, okay.
That's not the point he's making, it's just counter to Michael Cera's image.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Volcott posted:

Speaking of boats, multiple powers ranger have committed homicide, and one of them did it by tying an elderly couple to an anchor and throwing it overboard.
Go go drowning rangers
Mighty murderin' drowning rangers

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

The Bloop posted:

See also: the first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery
Yeah, it's weird that they take place in the 1850s.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

He's going to wait until the 1970s are over.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Inescapable Duck posted:

Those were literal teenagers (albeit that was pretty normal for the setting/time period), so.

Isn't there literally a show airing titled 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend' from the perspective of one?
Watch Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, it is an excellent show.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

I think they should have just gone with it and had the characters constantly insisting that no, the other one is ISIL.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Krispy Wafer posted:

I'm a little amazed at how little the cast gets paid. First year cast members don't even break 100k while having to pay NYC cost of living. Cocaine must have been a lot cheaper in the 70's and 80's.
I think they do this so they can hire unknowns from improv troupes or standup or w/e.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

SNL's writing is pretty hit and miss, but I'm always impressed at their ability to find talent. Mad TV was the same way, but with an even lower hit:miss ratio.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

TheKennedys posted:

Hey, Will Sasso deserved way more love than he got (and Alex Borstein and Michael McDonald did pretty well for themselves).
Yes, this is what I'm saying. MADTV had a great cast but more bad sketches.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Kay Kessler posted:

I wouldn't say it's so much a hit:miss ratio regarding talent so much as it is success.
It was an ambiguous sentence, I meant the writing.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

muscles like this! posted:

I never watched Mad TV after the first season or whatever but I remember a big problem they had was overly milking recurring characters. If a character proved popular they would put a sketch with them in just about every episode.
Also all their sketches went on too long.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Gaunab posted:

The think about SNL that will always stick out to me is that it's impossible to find the sketch with Jamie Foxx and Cheri Oteri playing Diddy and J-Lo in couples consouling. I don't even care if I find it funny, I just want to find it.
I found a transcript, at least:

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/99/99ipuff.phtml

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

NorgLyle posted:

There's a sketch from the first season that I loved and have fond memories for but I've been terrified to try and look up again online because I'm afraid it will suffer from this problem. It's the one where Phil LaMarr is a random executive complaining about Bryan Callen's insanely disappointing report.
If you remember a sketch being good it probably was. When it was good, it was good.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Davros1 posted:

That was a real product too, if I remember correctly
Yeah, that's it in the video. They didn't build a folding rake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joFZw0vXDiQ

e: not sure if the above video is an actual commercial for one, but here's a similar product on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Telescopic-Folding-Garden-Heavy-Foldable/dp/B003UIDK4C

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

It's funny to me that Murphy and Steve Martin starred in a funny move together, Bowfinger, shortly before their careers went to poo poo.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Rough Lobster posted:

Bowfinger's pretty great.
Steve Martin did a few mid-budget comedies in the 90s that were pretty fun. Bowfinger, Mixed Nuts, and LA Story are all good.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Mu Zeta posted:

I could have sworn Eddie Murphy was in one of those "magical negro" roles recently, the role that Spike Lee hates. Those can be reliable oscar baits.
The technical term is "Bagger Vancian caster."

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

This got lost in porn chat but reminded me of a few years ago when Honda used “We Will Become Silhouettes” by The Postal Service. The song is clearly referring to nuclear war.
Your body will be destroyed be these incredible low prices.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Rirse posted:

And don't forget Bee Movie and all the poo poo he did for NBC to promote it.
The Seinfeldvision episode of 30 Rock is good.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

It's insane to me, given MASH's popularity, that none of the streaming services have done a Catch-22 series.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Krispy Wafer posted:

Because it'd make no sense.
It would be better than the movie. C-22 is pretty episodic, it would translate to TV fantastically.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

No poo poo? That owns.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Wheat Loaf posted:

What I believed when I was a stupid kid was that all the backgrounds in Scooby Doo cartoons (but only Scooby Doo cartoons and other HB cartoons that looked a lot like it) were physical backdrops with people sitting behind them that somehow operated the characters like puppets.
This isn't actually that far off of cel animation.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

girl pants posted:

The 30 Rock episode where Tracy Morgan dresses up like Bill Cosby has aged really poorly in light of Bill Cosby being a rapist.
But the joke where he hates Bill Cosby because of something Cosby did to his aunt has aged quite well.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

My favorite John Goodman film is True Stories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FODLjjHkUUQ

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Iron Crowned posted:

Yeah, I feel that way about my Jigglypuffs, I never evolve them because Jigglypuff owns, and Wigglytuff kinda sucks.
I like Wigglytuff better.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

BrigadierSensible posted:

The one with Mel B from the Spice Girls is a hilarious train wreck as you can see the tension and animosity grow and grow over the night as she slowly turns it from a fun "pub quiz" style thing into a funereal dirge by virtue of her being ... herself.

She even manages to piss off the usually placid and even tempered Richard Ayoade.

Highlight for me was this exchange.

Jimmy Carr :Hey, you can't turn all the panellists against you."
Sarah Millican "Oh yes she can."
What happens?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Gaunab posted:

Chicago PD is the ends justify the means of SVU knocked up a notch. Every once in a while there's a scene where they torture suspect or the main detective ask if they want to execute a criminal because the criminal threatened someones family or something. The excuse for all this is that they're a special team who only deals with the worst criminals.
Okay, but what does the Chicago PD do in the show?

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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Maxwell Lord posted:

Except that episode was an early sign of where the show was going because Bob is basically fine with that part. The family is pretty nonjudgmental about it and the trans prostitutes are portrayed fairly positively.
BFD seems to have massively misunderstood the show.

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