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Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

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Ziv Zulander posted:

There was an episode of Star Trek TOS where some guy fell in love with an alien gas cloud and Kirk said that a binary gender system was a universal constant, that got a WTF from me the first time I saw it.

e: this came up because the alien gas cloud turned out to be a woman

Maybe Kirk was just trying to make Cochrane feel better about being a cloud's object of affection. "Yeah, sure, it's totally normal, dude. Every species has a male and female equivalent." "Actually, Captain-" "Shut UP, Spock."

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client posted:



lol everytime

To be fair, take the resolution down by 50% and that would look like half the CD-ROM games made in the 90s. It looks ridiculous, but that's what games looked like in my day. Now get off my lawn.

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Feb 5, 2016

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RandomFerret posted:

Ross from Friends is such a lovely entitled Nice Guy™ stereotype that it's amazing audiences were ever expected to sympathize with him.

Isn't it generally a problem with sitcoms that run long enough that characters end up focusing on one character trait to the exclusion of all else?

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RobotDogPolice posted:

So many episodes of South Park. I definitely had my "South Park is the best satire" phase in high school bit the older I get the more I realize it's just Matt and Trey making a strawman out of whoever they don't like.

I always more enjoyed the plain silly/weird episodes. The Chickenlover one from the first season is still a favorite.

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well why not posted:

The real bestworst is when Elliot & Stabler go to Europe to bust up a child smuggling ring. They're interrogating a dude and Stabler realises he's not subject to any NYPD rules and just beats the poo poo out of the guy. SVU is a weird show.

How could any writer think that's how the law works?

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Feb 5, 2016

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I'm fairly sure CSI: Miami was pitched as a parody of modern crime shows, and the scripts got switched with a genuine CSI show. There's got to be a regular crime show that lasted half a season beacuse it was called "Crime Detective Force Strike Alpha" and never got any laughs.

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Guy Mann posted:

And then the kids who loved those theories grew up to make Adventure Time and for like a decade after every other cartoon had to have some needlessly complex tragic backstory dragging down their fun adventure shows.
Ironically, Adventure Time's real backstory is that it's about a small group of kids having a great time at Disneyland.

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Choco1980 posted:

As an adult, I've caught a few reruns of Matlock, and in a post Law and Order world, Matlock is the worst lawyer in the world. His main courtroom strategy consists of hearsay, non-relevant evidence, and constantly badgering witnesses/plaintiffs until they confess at random.

Matlock's a real show? I always thought it was just a Simpsons gag.

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Does this mean it's finally ok for me to say I've always preferred the movie to the comic of LoEG?

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MisterBibs posted:

My Alan Moore story is that I disliked him ever since he bitched about DC's Blackest Night screwing with his one-shot take by expanding it into a thing that got me into reading Green Lantern (and comics in general).

Hell, this is (sorta) content, because Alan Moores take on it absolutely does not hold up for poo poo.

I really hope this doesn't sound snobbish, 'cos I love some really stupid and childish stuff, but someone really needs to take Moore aside and say "This stuff you're complaining about? It's stories about flying men in capes beating up aliens. Maybe you don't need to take it too seriously. Oh, and comics have been reinventing themselves since pretty much day one. Someone changing something you did or expanding on it isn't a personal insult."

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Feb 5, 2016

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EmmyOk posted:

You do you etc. but I have found most open relationships I know about start as monogamous and then one person decides they want more sex with other people but like having someone to binge netflix with and the other is afraid of crippling loneliness.

I can't think of a good example of a show/film aging badly but I recently read a book on number theory and it both said number theory had no practical uses and we'd never have a proof for Fermat's last theorem lol.

fake edit: number theory underlies all cryptography basically and there was a proof for the theory in 1994 for all you sex havers

There's an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where Picard mentions that people are still looking for a proof to Fermat's last theorem, so that's aged badly. Although the amount of time fuckery that goes on in Star Trek means I'm sure the fan explanation is that the proof was never found in that timeline because of something stupid Janeway did.

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Mister Kingdom posted:

And he should twirl it when talking to the bad guys.

I was trying to think of a joke about Superman tying Lex Luthor to railway tracks leading the JLA to realise he's not the real Superman, then realised it would probably fit in with Snyder's vision of Superman.

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lemon-lyme disease posted:

It's hard for me to tell if certain episodes of that show have aged well or not because I often (or at least sometimes) disagree/d with their politics from the get-go. It's a well put-together program on the whole though.

Part of the problem is something QI acknowledged as well: what was considered a fact at the time a show is made can later be found to be false. I'm sure I remember Penn saying that he'd wanted the last show of the series to be "The Bullshit of Bullshit!" addressing shows where understanding of the topics covered had changed.

TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:

Not tv, but in the original Meatballs (which is kind of dull overall) I remember somebody casually uses the term ‘jailbait’ or something similar and woah no thanks movie.
Not quite sure what the problem is here, but I've not seen Meatballs.

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Krispy Wafer posted:

The reviews of the time called it the filthiest book ever written. I have to imagine a large number of people bought it because it was taboo, not because it shone a critical eye at how we sexualize youth. So it doesn't matter if the book is meant to disgust if the reader buys it to be turned on.

I went back and looked up some of the reviews and yes, they were pretty adamant it was terrible and should kill any lustful thought you might have even momentarily harbored. But the NYT's reviewer said on his first reading, an abbreviated version (that of course still had sexy 12 year olds) was the funniest book he ever read. It was only the uncut copy that turned it into one of the saddest books he's ever read. So it definitely hit on some undercurrent that landed uncomfortably close to the truth.

I've not read Lolita, but reviews aren't always a good source of information. A lot of reviews at the time of the Brasseye Paedophile Special would have you believe it was basically child pornography, and was somehow being swapped around in prisons on VHS tape. What prisoners were playing these tapes on was never addressed.

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

Just ran into an old SNL Weekend Update segment that has aspects which really did not age well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvYBx0qEbk

Going by the audience reaction, I don't think it was good at the time.

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Mister Kingdom posted:

It had to be a royalties issue not using the lyrics. The show hasn't been off the air since day one and that would have cost a small fortune.

Would a prime time TV show in the 70s have been allowed to have a theme song extolling the benefits of suicide? Hell, would it now?

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Good grief.

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Davros1 posted:

In the last season of the show "Til Death", the son-in-law of the main characters had a subplot where he began to realize that their whole existence was a sitcom.

Sitcoms do tend to get weird at the end if they've get a proper ending rather than just not being picked up for another season. Roseanne, ALF, Dinosaurs... how many others?

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Or for something good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3s3qvQNuSk

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Scholtz posted:

Somehow this BBC talk just reminded me that The Big Fat Quiz of the Year is only a couple of days away, oh boy.

I'd love those if they stopped having Noel loving Fielding on them.

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Milo and POTUS posted:

It might be a volume thing since he only appears occasionally but I don't mind him on QI. Is there a good reason to dislike him or does he just rub you wrong?
It's pretty much this:

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Noel's approach to humour can be kinda monkey cheese. I'm assuming that is the issue, although I find him quite charming sometimes

However, I may be biased as I loved Mighty Boosh.
His whole schtick just seems so forced to me. He was good in Garth Marenghi's Darkplace, though.

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BrigadierSensible posted:

This put me in mind of the series of Are You Being Served they did where they were all old people in, I think, the 90s.
David Baddiel had a routine about why the show didn't work now because of how language has changed. When Molly Sugden referred to her pussy in the '70s show, the word generally meant "cat" with a faint undertone of "vagina." By the '90s, the word was seldom used as anything but a word for vagina, so an old woman announcing her pussy was dripping wet didn't seem like an innuendo, just an announcement that she was sexually aroused. The humour just didn't translate to the modern day.

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Nutsngum posted:

Wow, I now pronounce you chuck and larry is really really bad. Even the "oh look at the opression gay people feel" is just hamfisted.
I'm unsurprised that a film that uses a standard homophobic reaction to gay marriage ("What's to stop me marrying someone just to in some way defraud some organisation?") as it's plot is terrible.

Nutsngum posted:

Yes. It was on in the background whilst playing my mother and sister in scrabble. I won despite the awful obnoxious gay jokes coming thick and fast.

The only thing worst then the ham fisted message was Rob Schneiders awful asian stereotype character. No Rob Schneider, being part Filipno does not give you an open ticket to impersonate Mickey Rooney.

I still remember the terrible day in 2008 when I learned it was Roy Scheider and not Rob Schneider who had died.

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It's just sad that her career peaked when she was about 14, with Under Siege 2.

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hard counter posted:

we had that too, also if anyone started bleeding the cast would switch to black and white for the duration of the match

for quaint censorship that's probably become obsolete by now the transformers cgi cartoon we watched in canada was called beasties while in america it was called beast wars

Did Canada enjoy the recent movie, Starries: The Last Jedi?

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Feb 5, 2016

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There was a kitchen/galley on the Enterprise-A in Star Trek VI. Mainly there for the cute scene of Valeris demonstrating that you can't fire a phaser set to kill without an alarm going off by disintegrating a pot, but somehow leaving the contents.

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Inescapable Duck posted:

Riker loving loves Klingon food, especially when it's still wriggling.

Pretty much every depiction of Vulcans outside of main characters has them be totally insufferable shitheads who are in their own way as blatantly, smugly supremacist as goddamn Cardassians.

That's pretty much every non-human race in Star Trek. The captains are always having to learn some ritual greeting because this week's alien race won't talk to anyone who doesn't understand their ways. No alien race every appears and says "Hi, haven't met you before. Is there anything we should know about your culture so we don't inadvertantly make you think you're going to die in the game our society is obsessed with?"

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SEX BURRITO posted:

I've been watching some random old South Parks and just saw the Paris Hilton one.

Obviously, its aged badly because every celebrity has a sex tape/nudes now, but drat are they horrible about her. The entire episode is her being called a slut and a whore, and generally being gross. It just feels out of proportion for someone who was a dumb reality TV star.

Society as a whole has done almost a complete 180 on celeb sex tapes. When Paris Hilton's leaked, it was hilarious, she was a slut, big joke for everyone. Fast forward a few years and everyone agrees that The Fappening is morally reprehensible, and the women affected are victims of an assault nearly as serious as surprise sex. I kinda feel sorry for Paris Hilton.

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Not Operator posted:

BBT is full of weird low level sexism and racism
So it's very progressive by the standards of modern America?

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They should have at least used those looks in an alternate reality episode. Maybe the one where Q gives Picard the chance to change history so he never got stabbed by a Klingon. It turns out that not having that experience leaves him a boring, cautious man, but with a lustrous head of hair. Picard must choose between his career and the bitching mullet he's always wanted.

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BioEnchanted posted:

One thing that I always like about when shows mix weirdly is when you get pairs of actors/celebs that find out they work well together and collaborate outside of the sphere they met in - like Joe Wilkinson, British comedian, and Rachel Riley the current Numbers Girl on Countdown - they first worked together on 8 out of 10 cats does countdown, and now they've done a lottery advert together which is fairly cute. Unfortunately I can't find it on youtube but I've been seeing it on the 4id website attached to Kitchen Nightmares episodes.

They did an episode of a show on Dave. Can't remember the title, but the premise was a pair of celebs get dropped in a foreign country with something like £50,000 in local currency, and have to spend it without having any physical items to show for it.

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SiKboy posted:

There's no way Dave was giving anyone 50 grand. I vaguely remember seeing the show, but I have to think it was less than that.

You're probably right.

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SEX BURRITO posted:

I also remember a reality show on British TV where they tricked a bunch of people into believing they'd gone into space. I think it started to fall apart when they could hear the crew whispering outside the simulator.
Space Cadets. Hosted and written by Johnny Vaughn, so it never had a chance of being good.

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SEX BURRITO posted:

That’s the one! I remember it being quite entertaining because it was so stupid. A lot of their ‘training’ was done by terrible Russian stereotypes, and they explained the lack of weightlessness by saying they were still close to earth. It was a really elaborate hoax.
Just never found it appealling. Maybe if it was being done with intent of seeing if contestants would see through the hoax, but they deliberately set out to find gullible people who knew basically nothing about space. That's just shooting fish in a barrel.

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BioEnchanted posted:

I never got the bitching about Noel Fielding becoming a judge, it's not like he's Frankie Boyle. His humour is surreal, but suitable for all ages so I think he can be trusted with a family show like Bake Off. Let him eat cake!

Maybe it's because Noel Fielding isn't funny? I know that's something I often regard as a negative trait in a comedian.

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Not Operator posted:

Ricky Gervais is amazing as David Brent on The Office (UK) but it later became evident that this was because he wasn't acting, he just was that insufferable.

Isn't this what keeps happening with Gervais? People think he's being so edgy with his humour, then find out that he's actually just a stinkyhole.

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Didn't the Native American advisor they had for Voyager turn out to be a white conman?

e: Yes, yes he did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamake_Highwater

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Hell, we almost had the whole Batman universe as a high school drama. http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Gotham_High

As for Hitman, I'd like to see a middle-aged version in a sitcom. Agent 47 has a dilemma this week when the man he's sent to kill is the man who's getting him a great deal on his midlife crisis sports car! Plus the hot new receptionist catches him adjusting his toupee. What will he do? Find out in this week's episode of AGEnt 47.

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Inescapable Duck posted:

It's funny that there's still Transformers fans who don't insist the first series was the best.

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You have made a powerless enemy today, sir.

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