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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJemsVMhEhs&t=423s

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

RobotDogPolice posted:

If memory serves, they don't want to cover Trump now that he's president either, but I haven't watched the show in a while.

I don't think they're obligated to make fun of the guy, but it seems hypocritical considering they haven't shown much reservation in the past.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/south-park-trey-parker-trump-parody-2017-6?r=US&IR=T

quote:

“South Park” turns 20 this year. Has it gotten harder over those years to do satirical comedy, especially now that everyone on the Internet can make their own jokes off the latest news within seconds?

Yeah, and it’s also just gotten boring. We weren’t ever really that show. We would do an entire season and there would be one moment that played off something that had just happened and people would go, “ ‘South Park’ is the show that does that.” And that’s just not true. We’re not.
We did start to become that, though, especially the last season. We fell into the same trap that “Saturday Night Live” fell into, where it was like, “Dude, we’re just becoming CNN now. We’re becoming: ‘Tune in to see what we’re going to say about Trump.’ ” Matt and I hated it but we got stuck in it somehow.

This season I want to get back to Cartman dressing up like a robot and [screwing] with Butters, because to me that’s the bread and butter of “South Park”: kids being kids and being ridiculous and outrageous but not “did you see what Trump did last night?” Because I don’t give a ... anymore.We probably could put up billboards — “Look what we’re going to do to Trump next week!” — and get crazy ratings. But I just don’t care.

Let's be honest: the guy is so far beyond parody, how do you do something outrageous and funny about him, when the real world antics are even worse?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

RobotDogPolice posted:

A lot of the people they make fun of are already a parody of themselves though. They make fun of them specifically for that reason, then they make those people represent an entire philosophy.

It just seems like your priorities are totally hosed when you devote time to ridiculing safe spaces, something that's relatively innocuous, but decide to say nothing about policies that are actually impacting people's lives while claiming to be satire.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but how do you mock someone who paints his face orange, has a reverse mullet, can't complete a coherent sentence and is quite possibly illiterate?

What can you do that is a funny parody when reality out - parodies the parody?


Edit: I'm not trying to drag politics into this thread: my answer to the first post is 'all those episodes where they had the 'worst possible leader of the free world' look hopelessly naive now'

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

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poptart_fairy posted:

SVU is awful for that sort of thing. Suspects are routinely abused, denied food and drink, and put under enormous pressure to confess but then end up being completely innocent. This keeps happening and nobody learns, despite the show trying to make us believe that the investigators are double true pinky swear remorseful this time.

So, pretty accurate portrayal of US law enforcement, then?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

EmmyOk posted:

I've only started watching Yes Minister recently and it's incredibly prescient, the databases episode could be from this year.

Only 2 months ago, I sent an email to someone and used the phrase "wasn't this the plot of 'Yes Minister' episode?" and I was referring to this one.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Davros1 posted:

Columbo holds up really well, except now at the end, a lot of times I find myself thinking "Yeah, I don't think that's going to hold up in court."

I find myself inserting just two lines dialogue from every cop show in the last 20 years and it ruins the whole show

"I worry. I mean, little things bother me. I'm a worrier. I mean, little insignificant details - I lose my appetite. I can't eat. My wife, she says to me, "you know, you can really be pain."
"I ain't saying poo poo without my lawyer""

"There's just one more thing..."
"gently caress you! Lawyer!"

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Saint Drogo posted:

The big shock of Jimmy Saville, the incredibly creepy TV man who constantly made jokes about being a rapist, actually being a massive child abuser and rapist has meant a lot of British TV episodes can't be broadcast again.

Most relevant to goons is obviously the Doctor Who crossover


Oh god, I thought that was a photoshop.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xau8l6

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

ReidRansom posted:

OTOH, on Friends I seem to recall Monica and Rachael having to be shady about something to do with their apartment since it was Monica's grandmother's?

e: maybe it wasn't her actual grandmother and that was what they were being shady about?

It was her real grandma because they found her stash of homegrown Polaroids.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
'Because of rent control, it was a frigging steal'
Chandler, last episode.


Should I be proud that I didn't have to look that up?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Wheat Loaf posted:

That's why Doctor Who has had the longevity it's enjoyed. It can soft reboot every four or five years and get a new actor in the lead role, plus a rotating cast of companions. The next season of Doctor Who will be its eleventh since it was revived in 2005 and the fact that it's going to be a dramatically differently lead with a new behind-the-scenes team means it's already a very different programme. I remember in 2010 when Moffat replaced Russell T Davies as showeunner and Matt Smith started playing the Doctor, by the wnd of the first episode people were saying it was like a completely new show.

I get your point, but you could argue that Doctor Who entered a death spiral with the sixth doctor and died out with little dismay at the end of the seventh.

The ninth Doctor onwards could be considered a reboot in many ways.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

SEX BURRITO posted:

When Al Bundy kept complaining about those 200lb monsters. Surely nobody could get that fat? :aaaaa:

Yeah, now you mention it: you see the scene about these behemoths and the women that they use are not much heavier than the average weight for women in 2017

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUc4GkMN1qs

Never Say Never Again

Good guy vs bad guy playing video games lacks a certain gravitas when compared to playing chess or polker

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

After the episode where Douglas Reynholm has a fistfight with his girlfriend after he finds out she's trans, I find it hard to watch any of the IT crowd. Feels like there's ugliness just hiding under the surface :smith:

I'm glad I am not the only one who gets a real icky feeling when watching that episode and it does definitely colour the rest of the series.

That "Haha, Roy has been sexually assaulted" episode comes a close second.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

EmmyOk posted:

I've been watching Yes, Minister and in many way's it's aged incredibly well. It's from the 1980s but it had an episode about a Big Brother style database and it was amazing how similar it was to discussions around privacy and security around the time of the Snowden leaks and still now. However every now and then it has a drunk driving scene that's treated as funny and just a bit cheeky. Obviously that's something that was acceptable back then it just stands out all the more for how ahead of its time so many of its episodes are.

Actually, in a later episode, there is a plot point where another minister loses his job because he was caught drunk driving.

But i agree that it was definitely treated like getting caught for speeding is these days. It was 'naughty' but not the 'you are an arsehole' that you get today.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

EmmyOk posted:

That's the episode I was watching at the time. It was specifically the minister who had been behind the no drunk driving campaign. He had caused a lorry carrying nuclear waste to flip and then in his effort to escape crashed into another car... which was driven by the editor of the local paper. I agree though that it was treated as naughty and cheeky rather than the modern "what the actual gently caress" you get today.

All of our road safety ads were insanely violent including showing blood spray out of peoples mouths when they were hit by cars. They all started really happy and cute before descending into cold death in an uncaring universe

The seatbelt safety ones have aged very badly...for all kinds of reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6iynaLC5sY&t=5s

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

SpacePig posted:

I'm pretty sure a guard would notice a prisoner watching child porn on the prison AV cart or whatever.

Kudos to the prison visitor who managed to smuggle a VHS cassette in their rectum.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

DACK FAYDEN posted:

:thejoke:

I figured I was 10% to get a real answer and 90% to get "solder".

Real, not funny, answer: 'sole-dur'

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Davros1 posted:

Don't watch the behind the scenes stuff. Rimmer and Cat? Wigs.

At least Kryten didn't use a Shatner-corset.

Now we know who's been eating all the pies.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Wheat Loaf posted:

I listen to his 6Music show and he comes across as an okay guy on that. That said, don't know when those interviews were recorded (haven't seen them) and he's been doing his show for 15 years by now, so maybe he's mellowed out. :shrug:

He admits that he's mellowed out and was a bit of an angry young man when he first started Red Dwarf - which was why he and Barrie hated each other for the first few series.

I wonder if that helped the dynamic of the show, having the actors have the same cotempt for each other as the characters did.




And Danny JJ is the Cat in real life.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Der Kyhe posted:

Coming from a country which still has active draft for all male population; if you want to have the "they'll call the dead before they draft me"-papers, you really need to commit to being a loving lunatic at the draft examinations.

They also have a number of people specially trained for seeing thru the acts and pinpointing the actually crazy ones.

Saying that you poo poo yourself constantly just puts you into the artillery regiment.

Or claim to have 'bone spurs'

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

BioEnchanted posted:

There's also the old story about Christopher Lee correcting the direction on a movie he was acting in because he knew exactly how a guy being stabbed in the back sounded and the director's direction was unrealistic.

Christopher Lee is even more badass than the badasses he is famous for playing in the movies.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

sassassin posted:

His fear of being thought of as gay is often linked to his embarrassment at his father's sexual antics when he was growing up. Which is less gay panic and more the universal horror of being confronted with parents (and various poolboys) as sexual beings.

Add in his father's sexuality being a cause of his parents' messy divorce and you've got a perfectly understandable measure of self-conscious homophobia.

I'd agree with that.

I also things that his transgender father when from a comedy punchline to a real person and the relationship between them when Chandler was inviting him to the wedding was quite touching and sympathetic.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Mu Zeta posted:

Do you mean the show as a whole or the Frasier character? The general gay panic stuff was in all the 90s shows, but I don't recall the Frasier character really belittling any sex/gender/lifestyle.

There was the episode where some gay guy thinks frasier is gay and hitting on him.

Which was both funny and entirely respectful towards the gay character.

Edit: given that about 80% of the cast were gay, it's not entirely surprising that the shows were written without horrible jokes or stereotypes.

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Wheat Loaf posted:

Here's another show that was very popular and ran for about a decade which you don't hear about any more: Touched By An Angel. That's one I'm surprised hasn't been rebooted or revived on any of the Christian channels in America.

'Touching' is a word that many religious are trying to remove from the public consciousness.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Jedit posted:

This happened with Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Remember the bit where Christian Slater drops a gratuitous F-bomb? Not if you're in the UK, you don't. The scene was cut over here because the movie got the rating they wanted without it. In the US it didn't, so they had to add that specific swear word.

I wonder if that is because it has a 'bollocks!' in it - which in the UK is a swear word, but in the USA isn't.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Gorilla Salad posted:

Given the advances in battery technology since those days, if I had a modern phone with a modern battery pack that size, I wonder how long it would last.

Of course, you'd also carry around the risk of it exploding like a small nuke if you dropped it.

I got curious:

Nokia Mobira Talkman
Weight (g) 5500

Say the battery weighs 4.5kg
One iPhone 7 battery weighs 28g and gives 350mins of fairy heavy use

So... 937 hours of use - or over a solid month of heavy use.

Hold on, I have a kickstarter idea....

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Alhazred posted:

Surprisingly many. Both Angelina Jolie and Sofia Vergara are natural blondes for example.

I'm curious: are there any famous dudes that dye their hair?

(Not including ones that do it to hide grey)

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Given all The Departed talk recently.

Don't watch The Departed. Watch Infernal Affairs, (80s or 90s Hong Kong movie) instead. It's the same film, Scorcese shamelessly stole everything from it. Literally everything. Much in the way A Fistful of Dollars is an unauthorised remake of Yojimbo.

Sure, The Departed is a slightly better film, but if you watch Infernal Affairs, you get to be smug and pretentious about movies. Which is a thing I enjoy being from time to time.

I watched Infernal Affairs about 10 years before I watched The Departed. I didn't know it was a remake and I got the weirdest sense of deja vu.

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Cheshire Puss posted:

I couldn't watch How I met your mother at all. People can poo poo on Big Bang Theory all day but HIMYM had the straight up worst, most obvious fake laugh track I've ever heard.

Maybe it got better over time but the first three episodes broke any goodwill I had towards the actors I had liked on other stuff. I love Neil Patrick Harris because the man is a natural entertainer, he's great.

I don't begrudge a show for using canned laughter, not everything has to be comedy high art. But canned laughter implementation really should have been nailed down decades ago. Shows like Blackadder made in the 80's had jokes that the 'audience' didn't react to. MASH had dead silence when Hawkeye said something stupid and not funny.

Wait...are you comparing HIMYM's laugh track negatively to the famously-poo poo and overpowering laugh track of MASH?

That's a bit like saying Jennifer Lawrence is a bit pudgy and she'd look better if she were more Trump's shape.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

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Rirse posted:

He didn't seem to be too awful in the original episodes, but it very obvious in the Netflix episodes.

There is the episode where he realises that he pushes George Michael far too hard when he is Mr Manager of the banana stand.

At that point m I realised that he was pretty screwed up. But the awfulness of all the rest of the family makes it less noticeable in comparison.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

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Mu Zeta posted:

I read somewhere that sometimes a contestant will screw up their baking and seriously start crying. So the hosts will run up next to them and start swearing so that they can't use the video footage. I'm sure the producers hate that.

I have this lovely vision of Mary Berry running up to a contestant and saying 'there, there. Never mind that your meringue didn't rise' then turning towards the camera and chanting 'oval office, oval office, oval office'

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Hattie Masters posted:

EDIT: One thing that aged horribly from Drop The Dead Donkey was some of the jokes from the first episode about Henry calling a waiter by an ethnic slur.

Personally, I think that 'bigoted, old tory dinosaur says racist things' is a stereotype that has, depressingly, aged very well.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.
On a more frivolous note:

Arrested Development seasons 1-3

Simply because Portia De Rossi has had at least 2 new faces since then

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

SpacePig posted:

Yeah, I have a bit of a set of rose-tinted glasses when it comes to Arrested Development, because each subsequent rewatch reveals a lot of really weird, sort of gross, and fairly outdated humor. Especially season 3, in which I think literally everybody gave up.

Likewise. I'll give it a huge amount of slack as a) it's really funny and b) they are supposed to be terrible people.

But even at the time, this plotline made me say 'wait, how old are they supposed to be? This is not right'



E: 35/17.....ewww

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

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Koalas March posted:

https://twitter.com/garya1an/status/979788746424897536

- There's a rumor that a 'The Nanny' revival is in the works.
- Fran Drescher had a meeting with the Nanny writers and posted it to instagram.
- “As far as a reboot goes, I would be open to it if somebody wanted to do it,” revealed Drescher. “I am in touch, definitely. Renee Taylor (Sylvia Fine) is a good friend of mine, Charlie [Shaughnessy] (Maxwell Sheffield) is a good friend of mine. Recently I reconnected with Nicholle Tom (Maggie Sheffield), and periodically I speak to everyone, but I’m very good friends with Charlie and Renee, for sure.”

Well, I guess that since Roseanne seems to have been a success, I am sure all kinds of sitcoms are getting dusted off and TV execs are hurriedly checking whether the stars have been caught doing naughty stuff.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

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Mu Zeta posted:

Watch the video where he says it. It's clearly a joke. He says that he's the prettier and more glamorous Watson.

I got bored so I googled it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MBTlKhThWk

spog
Aug 7, 2004

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Koalas March posted:

Iirc he has said some crazy racist poo poo, which is why a lot of people were questioning why he was cast in Black Panther.

I googled this, too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-563570/Martin-Freeman-life-shouldnt-just-day-office.html

quote:

Politely, I comment on his lovely house and the tranquillity that surrounds it.

"When I moved up here this woman I know said, 'Ooh! There are a lot of whiteys up there', and I said, 'I love white people; I've no problem with them at all." The idea was that I was going to complain because there weren't enough blues dances out here; not enough ragga around. But I'm not bothered by it.

"Multiculturalism hasn't and doesn't help, because rightly or wrongly it polarises people so much," he continues. "Racism is one thing – and I don't agree with that in any form – but noticing that there are differences is normal and fine and to be encouraged. "We've reached a state now where it's, 'You shouldn't notice. Why are you noticing he's got a bomb and has a beard and is Muslim and wants to kill your family?" "There is no country in the world like this. If all of a sudden all the traffic wardens in Ghana were Welsh, they'd really notice and might not love it… We give ourselves a hard time in this country in a sort of mea culpa way. But if we were that racist, people wouldn't come. Very simple."

Personally, I wouldn't want Freeman hanged for these remarks. Before he moved north he lived in Crouch End, and before that Bethnal Green.

Of the move he says: "I got out just after the BNP were elected in 1993. That was a disgrace."

....

He hasn't always been a mod purist. "I did have a hip-hop period," he admits. "I dressed a bit like that in 1990, but after a while I thought, 'Nah, back to the white Levi's.'

"I really liked hip-hop until the gangsta rap took over. I come from a time when not every rap record was 'nigga' this and 'nigga' that; an earlier socially and morally conscious hip-hop sensibility, when it was, 'Don't call people nigga'." "But now it's nigga, nigga, nigga, and it's not funny or interesting politically, artistically or socially. I really don't like it."

spog
Aug 7, 2004

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SpacePig posted:

I didn't know any of that stuff about Martin Freeman and now I'm upset. Can't anything nice happen in 2018?

I must admit that I was somewhat disappointed, too.

I went looking for the quotes because I assumed that they would be the usual misreporting where someone says that an issue is complicated and expresses a moderate view and it gets spun into something for the headlines.

I suppose it's another case of confusing the characters he plays with the person he is.
Like when I thought I'd have a nice evening drink with Bill Cosby and that didn't turn out well, either.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

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walrusman posted:

Polish is the only word in the English language that changes pronunciation when capitalized.

This has been another walrusman trivia interlude.

The people of Reading reading this disagree.

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

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Samuringa posted:

A Six Million Dollar man where they use 2018's six million dollars, so the upgrades are all minimalistic and he has to be creative with them

Or where they use an inflation -adjusted amount but every limb has a different EULA and service contract and every time he tries to do anything bionic, he has to wait for an upgrade to be applied.

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