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Mar 29, 2006

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grittyreboot posted:

There's a scene in Scrubs where JD is listening to his iPod (lol) and he thinks "Time to switch to something more rocking" and starts listening to Coldplay.

Is this really an example of not aging well, or is the joke J.D.'s view of what rocks is really lame?

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Mar 29, 2006

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MikeCrotch posted:

Seeing old interviews from Babylon 5 where the cast commented on how difficult and crazy the guy who played Sinclair was is a lot more difficult to watch after it was revealed he was a paranoid schizophrenic, and had to quit acting because of his mental health problems.

Its even worse when you realize that he could and should have quit at any time, bit didn't so they wouldn't all lose their jobs.

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CommonShore posted:

Yep. One tripartate racial schema I remember reading cast "The Mongoloid" as "civilization maintainer" - i.e. they use the great stuff that the white man invented but they don't contribute anything of their own.

Lol this is literally the opposite of most of history.

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Krispy Wafer posted:

Old Disney animation is layered right? So do they just remove the racist layer or is all of that done with CGI? Because that's some Stalin purge level of removing someone.

Removing all the racist caricatures of black people from 1930's 1940's and 1950's media just means you will have no black people at all. It would be better to post a disclaimer and leave it in cases like this, but Disney is all about protecting its image, even if it is a lie.

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Inspector Gesicht posted:

Transformers: The Movie is full of robot-on-robot violence which alone isn't enough to merit a PG-13, so the creators just had a character say "poo poo" while off camera which conveniently justifies the rating while also being very easy to edit out. I don't think it's relevant to this thread, it's just funny (0:46)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbgRyfdAFPg

Transformers was PG. They put the "poo poo" in there to avoid a G.

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Volcott posted:

I was reading the wikiped on NC-17 because I thought to myself, "have I ever seen a movie with that rating in theatres, or advertised at all?"



Robocop swinging for the loving fences.

In the early days of the NC-17 it was a lot easier to get, because they treated it as if it was an actual rating, rather than the kiss of death that it actually was.

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Iron Crowned posted:

It's my understanding that NC-17 became the kiss of death because Showgirls was just bad

That certainly didn't help. But a bunch of movie theatres just won't show NC-17 movies, including the third largest chain in the country.

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NC-17 was always going to be a hard sell in small towns.

For something on topic, someone mentioned Fawlty Towers recently, and while most of it has held up, the gay French chef in the gourmet night ep. is a little jarring.

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knife_of_justice posted:

He's meant to be lecherous/ a bawdy drunk. The world that John Cleese and Connie Booth lived in back then wasn't a homophobic one. There are stories about looking for a specialist gay hostel for their friend/co-star Graham Chapham during Python location filming circa 1971, so they were by and large tolerant.

John Inman in pretty much anything was more jarring.

I agree that it is not meant to be homophobic, it is actually more that they were catering to stereotypes about French people. It's still a good ep. I'll forgive just about everything for the scene where Basil gives his car a "good thrashing" with a tree branch.

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mojo1701a posted:

I've been rewatching the first few seasons on Netflix. I'm trying to confirm my belief that the show stopped being good when Red had his heart attack.

As awesome as Red as a character was, Kitty really was such an underrated character.

All the adults on the show were good. Bob and Midge were always fun, Kitty was great and Red was the best character on the show. The kids were all morons (even Donna) but that was sort of the point.

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Serialization is good if the writers have a plan. It is good if they use it to do call backs to earlier episodes and develop characters. It is bad if it is all about 'the mystery' and even the writers have no loving clue h ow they are going to end it.

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Ummmmmm, this was colonel Sanders playing Reba, pleaer pay attention.

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The Mayberry extended universe. What a world.

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Martin Freeman is Bilbo Baggins, if Bilbo Baggins were real. A fussy put upon Englishman who likes to pretend he is enlightened, but who actually likes to treat foreigners as if they are sub-human. But only the 'Bad' foreigners.

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Araenna posted:

Yeah, that's just like America? Like, do you think every city and town in America has a perfect mix of all races and cultures? There are vast swaths of America that are almost entirely white.

The southern United States has significant enclaves of rural minorities, something that is entirely absent in Britain. Still for much of the country you are correct.

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Cowboy robots that kill the rich are the best version of cowboy robots.

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fruit on the bottom posted:



Totally historical.

I'd totally believe she inspired Albert Einstain.

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That is only because they were all hoping the computer would screw up and kill them. It wasn't any safer.

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Mu Zeta posted:

After watching Enterprise, they should have explained why all the Federation members adopted human designed ships. There used to be weird looking Vulcan ships and Xindi ships or whatever. But in TNG everyone is using human ships.

Starfleet uses human ships. Because it is the same Starfleet from Enterprise. But there are still lots of vulcan science ships and things like that.

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Not Operator posted:

Dexter brought up a lot of interesting ideas and never followed through. Wasnt there a brief point when he thought Rita's daughter might have been like him? Then it's never mentioned again.

That's from a plot point in the books that they obviously decided to drop. A plot in which he trains Rita's kids to be murderers. Because the demon tells him to.

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Mar 29, 2006

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Well, yeah.

Tiggum's post is also good.

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Choco1980 posted:

It's weird that some times L&O tries to take a stand about prison rape, but then has no problem completely flip flopping and making threats and jokes on the subject.

It's almost like different episodes have different writers.

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RagnarokAngel posted:

As stated 2 ends with you fist fighting the pope so its not a stretch to imagine why people might take umbrage with that (even if it was one of the "bad" popes)

That message is part of the selling point of the game, which is "the setting is very historically accurate." They're emphasizing authenticity.

In the setting, not the story. The story is loving bonkers.

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Straight White Shark posted:

On a different topic, here's one that's aged interestingly: the first episode of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt has a brief cameo with Matt Lauer where he comments "it's amazing what you can get women to do because they're afraid of being rude." :allears:

Welp that was a lot more accurate than they were intending.

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fruit on the bottom posted:

I mean it’s a little weird that Mark Wahlberg gets to have a career and Richards doesn’t.

Yeah, Mark Wahlberg is a real piece of poo poo

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Pick posted:

A lot of shows do and I've never quite figured it out. I never liked Downton Abbey but I could tolerate it for social reasons during Season 1, but then S2+ happened and it's so loving bad, and no one else seemed to notice? It wasn't until I saw this that I felt, oh poo poo, thank goodness I am not insane in this very specific way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b87E3kamWOg

My mom LOVES Downton Abbey, and every character went from being a scheming rear end in a top hat to being relatively nice after Season 1 ended. It was so bad. Like the whole point is supposed to be that all these people are petty jerks who are constantly scheming against each other. Season 2 on it's just nobility porn.

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Samuringa posted:

The Legion probably has a process of pederasty since it is trying to emulate that time period, it is not exactly a far reach.

I found that despite the Legion being obvious bad guys, they weren't just "I AM EVIL" bad but adopted a culture that is very hosed up when seen by the lens of the modern world.

The fact that the Legion uses sexual violence to terrorize people when they invade isn't remarkable, it is what virtually every army in history has done. It is a detail that most depictions of war omit, so I think that Fallout not shying away from it in that context isn't bad. The stuff with the Fiends is more cartoonish Mad Max stuff, and is harder to justify from a storytelling standpoint. Cook-Cook in particular is really disturbing.

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Sarcopenia posted:

Yeeeah that doesn't make it better. So it's all about how George can feel like the big man and Lorraine is just fine with having him around because she wasn't really raped so no trauma!
Also wouldn't the insinuation be that before Marty goes back they were then living next to the man who successfully raped her in highschool?

Maybe it was her idea. Maybe she hates him so much she just wants to see him permanently humiliated.

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If I recall correctly Peter Jackson went to bat for his actors and tried to get them a bigger piece of the pie after the films were huge successes. This was one of the reasons that he wasn't originally attached to direct the Hobbit, iirc.

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That's the thing though, Smithers being in love with Burns is so ridiculous that it isn't particularly threatening. Burns is an decrepit, evil man and Smithers being in love with him is just so ludicrous. Smithers being gay in general though, that gets taken seriously, because it's no longer just a silly joke. It's the same principle that allowed Bugs Bunny to kiss Elmer Fudd.

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purple death ray posted:

I think you guys are looking at lazy 90s gay panic jokes through 2018 eyes and retroactively deciding they were serious, tbh.

Most of the early Smithers jokes weren't gay panic jokes though. Nobody ever flipped out over Smithers being gay. Some of the jokes were 'Smithers is gay,' but characters rarely reacted to that. Even when Smithers told Burns that he loved him Burns just says something like "Thank you for making my last moments on Earth socially awkward."

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purple death ray posted:

I'm talking this JK Rowling revisionist rear end idea that Homer is a secret bisexual, not Smithers

Oh, okay. That makes sense. I can agree with that.

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

I think it also has to do with media coverage. The Simpsons writing team would probably prefer to avoid something cheesy similar to the type of USA Today stories you get when Captain America or Superman get killed off. If Smithers tells Burns, they have to come up with how Burns would react: how would he react? He'd probably fire him, since Burns' characterization has largely always been cruel old miser (also a straight up Republican, let's not pretend that particular hang up is dead) with a few moments of decency here and there. Sure, they could have Burns be accepting of Smithers, but it's easier to get laughs and structure an episode based on the fallout of what Smithers does next if Burns cans him or reacts poorly, even if you return to status quo. But there are three problems with that:

1) Sexuality has become even more deeply political then it was during the golden years of the show. Which means you'll have major coverage of what the gay community makes of the episode which Simpsons would probably prefer to avoid (especially since the episode where Patty almost marries an LPGA player before finding out they're a man got roasted, and I hope I got my pronouns right there. If that seems silly, the It's Always Sunny episode where Charlie came out through interpretive dance got a LOT of attention, and I think Simpsons staff wants to just keep chugging along at this point.

2) The whole "Smithers loses his job" thing was done during Who Shot Mr.Burns was done. It was quite good. No need to revisit it, especially if you're going to return to status quo or not surprise people with Burns' reaction.

3) The time where it would have been genuinely interesting as a storyline has come and gone, IMO.

Smithers has told Burns, Burns has been aware for ages that Smithers has feelings for him. He just doesn't care.

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

He's never said "I'm gay". He tried to tell him how he feels during the Do What You Feel Episode, but quickly backtracks when he realizes Burns isn't really paying attention and sorta half-assedly asks what it was he said.

Burns does not possess a lot of awareness. This is a guy who still calls people ragamuffin and had to be told Mordercai Brown, a 1900's era ballplayer, was dead....in 1995.

He also told him when the plant was about to melt down, and Burns clearly didn't believe him when he tried to walk away it back. Burns knows how Smithers feels, but it doesn't bother him because he doesn't care what anyone else thinks.

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muscles like this! posted:

Hey, maybe Dragon Ball Super should realize that it is "super" not okay for Master Roshi to still be attempting to molest young women against their will.

I mean it's a Japanese show so good luck trying to convince them! I'm not disagreeing with you or anything, but the Japanese probably wouldn't even understand what you are upset about. After all, Roshi never actually succeeds, right? The fact that his even taking those actions harms the women he is chasing is not something they seem to get.

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It was Lyta, not Talia.

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Even the Simpsons is still hand drawn. They just switched over to digital coloring.

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Literally every joke involving Rusty is "Rusty is a terrible person who treats everyone around him badly." The humor was pretty iffy at the time.

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Pick posted:

British humor loving sucks. Brits aren't funny, and you only spend your teens laughing because you don't realize the episode where someone has a horrible opinion but sticks to it is supposed to be relatable because it was for brits who have bad opinions and wish they still ruled other countries despite being dumbasses

On the other hand, laughing at failed imperialists is good.

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Fatty Crabcakes posted:

And looking back on it, he was mostly in the right.

I mean, aside from just turning off the containment unit. That was a very dumb decision. If you had say, nuclear waste in some sort of active containment unit, would you just turn it off, or would you wait to do so until you had some sort of backup containment in place?

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