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so everyone seems convinced the desecrate 15% spectre chance per corpse is an actual dd ignite buff, so maybe necro DD is on the menu.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 03:32 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 08:19 |
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Benson Cunningham posted:Unless they make more changes, is there any reason not to league start ignite DD? It's still insanely good on no equipment with the changes described so far
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 03:43 |
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Who the gently caress is screaming "play a two button build" at my house. show yourself, coward. i will never play a two button build
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:00 |
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Those absolution numbers are crazy. Absolution can already be a 20m+ dps build.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:01 |
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Captainicus posted:I'll just blindly league start whatever new spells they add this league instead That's usually my plan too. And no, I'm pretty sure every league has at least new supports, if not new skills. They've said that one of their strategies to retaining players is identifying the different things that keep people coming back and including at least some of each with each league, like new gear or new challenges. One of those is people who want to play with new skills.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:01 |
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That’s not the minion version of the spell apparently
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:02 |
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queeb posted:so everyone seems convinced the desecrate 15% spectre chance per corpse is an actual dd ignite buff, so maybe necro DD is on the menu. I don't get why this would be the case?
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:04 |
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Mikojan posted:Those absolution numbers are crazy. Absolution can already be a 20m+ dps build. Is Absolution's damage broken in PoB? Every time I look at a build, it's ~1m at the very most unless it's a Doriyani build with perfectly rolled Scourged -Lightning res gear Definitely tempted to roll with it with how hard it got buffed.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:04 |
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Mikojan posted:Those absolution numbers are crazy. Absolution can already be a 20m+ dps build. The minions are not being buffed, just the spell you cast yourself.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:05 |
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Cinara posted:The minions are not being buffed, just the spell you cast yourself. Still, better levelling with it is nice. And Spiritual aid miiiiiight be worth the investment with the buffed spell damage?
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:11 |
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Captainicus posted:I'll just blindly league start whatever new spells they add this league instead I usually do this in part so I have no guide to follow and just play. Last league I tried Energy Blade Trap which was kinda interesting but they left the stupid trap Elemental Overload bug unfixed for so long I abandoned it. I like channeled skills and wish there was another cold one besides Winter Orb which is kinda meh.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:45 |
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graynull posted:I usually do this in part so I have no guide to follow and just play. Last league I tried Energy Blade Trap which was kinda interesting but they left the stupid trap Elemental Overload bug unfixed for so long I abandoned it. icestorm, but lol rip barring an unmentioned buff to it in the patch notes
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 04:50 |
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Did they ever make Absolution work properly with Soulwrest?
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 05:09 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:icestorm, but lol rip barring an unmentioned buff to it in the patch notes
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 05:19 |
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Reiterpallasch posted:oh come on, this was the league i was going to try coc eye of winter too Yeah same, rip. It's pretty much dead to self cast.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 05:34 |
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theshim posted:Icestorm isn't channeled, it just has a duration. sure but you have to use cast while channeling with it...
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 05:51 |
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self cast ice nova
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 05:53 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:sure but you have to use cast while channeling with it... *this was before cwc existed
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 05:57 |
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Zenithe posted:Friends don't let friends league start lightning tendrils One of the last times I played trade HC I leaguestarted Lighting Tendrils CWC Arc Inpulsa Inquisitor. Was a ton of fun actually.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 06:03 |
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J posted:Who the gently caress is screaming "play a two button build" at my house. show yourself, coward. i will never play a two button build I was born in the 2 button builds. Molded by it! (My first real build was ignite detonate dead back in, what, 0.9? 1.0? Back when arctic armour was a 200 mana/sec drain and made you unkillable)
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 06:07 |
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Gotta say, didn't expect the glacial hammer and molten strike nerfs. Probably gonna do some wacky deadeye miner (ice Spear?)
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 06:31 |
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Spreadsheet of damage changes by caster archetype, looks like everything but selfcast and traps is pretty neutral https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oNl8bMcuvX5KGrbmi5hz1dcO-FLSv8rg5ozsLvmvG-A/edit#gid=0
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 06:38 |
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Deki posted:Still, better levelling with it is nice. And Spiritual aid miiiiiight be worth the investment with the buffed spell damage? It already was if you weren't relying completely on the minions (and why would you when you need to cast it anyway?). I almost always take that wheel just for the raw minon stats anyway. Now a real necro buff would be making the spiritual whatever that let's you share minion attack speed also work for cast speed.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 07:12 |
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Is selfcast frost bolt/ice nova back on the menu?
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 07:36 |
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Spreadsheet of damage changes by caster archetype, looks like everything but selfcast and traps is pretty neutral I wish this included Poet's Pen etc. Near as I can tell, the weapon-based triggered casting is nerfed by like 12% overall for the +48% buffed spells. Should still be fine, for those spells. We haven't seen numbers for Eye of Winter, it might still be in the game!
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 07:59 |
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Seeing as I'm not actually gonna be able to settle on my league starter til the day before, y'all got any recommendations for someone who is hopelessly addicted to screenwide celestial mtx Herald of Ice shatters?
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 08:05 |
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Traitorous Leopard posted:Seeing as I'm not actually gonna be able to settle on my league starter til the day before, y'all got any recommendations for someone who is hopelessly addicted to screenwide celestial mtx Herald of Ice shatters? lightning tendrils
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 09:05 |
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I will absolutely go for new and improved bows, and absolutely get burned like an idiot.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 09:58 |
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GGG didn’t address the main problem with DD. They either don’t know what they hosed up in 3.16 or just gonna stealth nerf it. It seems people, including here, are unaware why it was specifically OP this patch. They think it was always like this or that it was due to the ignite changes. No, they hosed up and changed the base corpse health ( the base HP not the increased life %) and increased it by like 10 times this patch. They mention something vaguely about mob hp and damage reduction in relation to delve and seems like they didn’t compensate for corpses. That’s probably what went wrong on their end. Anyway that is the main reason why it became OP. There are vids of people clearing simulacrums with just unearth. Desecrate wasn’t the source of the problem.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 10:57 |
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We still don't have patch notes. They might nerf DD by other means in the notes.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 11:27 |
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generic metric posted:There are vids of people clearing simulacrums with just unearth. Desecrate wasn’t the source of the problem. Desecrate is absolutely the problem. Unearth works because its not capped by zone level, so with extremely heavy investment (+gems, Empower, alternate quality + Enhance) you could create lvl90+ corpses with +60% max corpse hp, which then would put it ever so slightly ahead of just pressing Desecrate, lmao
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 11:29 |
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Cinara posted:The minions are not being buffed, just the spell you cast yourself. That would make a lot more sense. Also very good since the only thing that was holding the build back was being able to quickly replenish your dudes when they get wiped.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 11:43 |
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they released the patch early to read what people are saying is OP to fix it before league,u fools
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 11:46 |
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Ferrinus posted:Did they ever make Absolution work properly with Soulwrest? Not to my knowledge, you need a separate corpse eater for that to work.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 11:47 |
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Wuxi posted:Desecrate is absolutely the problem. Unearth works because its not capped by zone level, so with extremely heavy investment (+gems, Empower, alternate quality + Enhance) you could create lvl90+ corpses with +60% max corpse hp, which then would put it ever so slightly ahead of just pressing Desecrate, lmao I might have worded it weird, but my point is to say the mob health change is what hosed up the balance not desecrate itself, so much so that even unearth was giving decent damage. They should revert the mob base health so that desecrate + DD becomes balanced again. Instead of what they’re trying to do now. However, I do agree with trying to make DD more consistent and less based on which zone you are in. generic metric fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jan 25, 2022 |
# ? Jan 25, 2022 12:15 |
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Maybe it’s time to dust off arc starter again
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 13:03 |
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generic metric posted:GGG didnt address the main problem with DD. They either dont know what they hosed up in 3.16 or just gonna stealth nerf it. It seems people, including here, are unaware why it was specifically OP this patch. They think it was always like this or that it was due to the ignite changes. it is very weird the life scaling wasnt even addressed properly.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 15:01 |
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I see all this talk of one and two button builds and how people can't stand more than one button etc..... *Looks at my 4+ button minion monstrosity.... *
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 15:05 |
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I am having trouble parsing the orb of storms description (bolded): quote:Orb of Storms has been redesigned as a single target tool for lightning casters. The focus of the skill has been placed on its mechanic of hitting enemies when you cast a lightning skill in its area. Orb of Storms now deals 3 to 8 Lightning Damage at gem level 1 (previously 2 to 7), up to 304 to 913 at gem level 20 (previously 185 to 555). Now strikes every 3.50 seconds at gem level 1 (previously 1.50 seconds), and every 2.55 seconds at gem level 20 (previously 1.02 seconds). What does this mean practically? I've not really ever used OOS past act 1.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 15:16 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 08:19 |
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The range of the beams it shoots isn't centered around you but centered around it.
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# ? Jan 25, 2022 15:26 |