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boredsatellite
Dec 7, 2013


Awesome! posted:

yeah i find like 3+ pens every league

I have terrible luck with them. I've found 2 void batteries while finding 0 poet's pen this league

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Aerox
Jan 8, 2012


In terms of leveling starter characters in new leagues or in self found, what's more important in terms of progressing -- 4/5 links or rare stats?

I find I seem like I hit a problem even in leveling builds where I either find my 4Ls early and then get locked into pretty crappy gear because I can't get anything else good to drop and don't want to drop all my gem links, or have decent rare rolls but immediately blow all my fusings trying to get 4Ls and a 5L on my chest.

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet


Stats are probably more important. Your DPS drops to 0 if you're dead, after all.

vvv Having one 4L for your main skill is legit though

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get


Aerox posted:

In terms of leveling starter characters in new leagues or in self found, what's more important in terms of progressing -- 4/5 links or rare stats?

I find I seem like I hit a problem even in leveling builds where I either find my 4Ls early and then get locked into pretty crappy gear because I can't get anything else good to drop and don't want to drop all my gem links, or have decent rare rolls but immediately blow all my fusings trying to get 4Ls and a 5L on my chest.

I stopped really caring about trying to get a 4l for anything but my main skill and it super helped the leveling process. like, you probably don't need a 4l CWDT setup until maps, who really cares about your orb of storms + curse on hit + ele weakness setup for bossing, etc. Manually cast your golem, set up some auras, get a good 4l for your main skill and movement skill and your probably all set.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 9, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Hmmm I've never played a witch so this league seems like a good time to try it.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky


Aerox posted:

In terms of leveling starter characters in new leagues or in self found, what's more important in terms of progressing -- 4/5 links or rare stats?

I find I seem like I hit a problem even in leveling builds where I either find my 4Ls early and then get locked into pretty crappy gear because I can't get anything else good to drop and don't want to drop all my gem links, or have decent rare rolls but immediately blow all my fusings trying to get 4Ls and a 5L on my chest.

The proper answer is it depends on build, but the practical one is neither. Every class can level with 3 links. Sure, 4-5 is better and awesome max rolled mods is great, but far more important than all of that is making sure you're using skills suitable for levelling.

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die


Both links and stats are important, it's not an either/or situation. It's worth wearing an item with bad stats if it's your only 4 link option but probably not worth wearing a 2nd bad item just for the 4th link.

Artificial Idiocy
Jul 11, 2008


Don't bother trying to link anything yourself until maps. Just alch or essence a random white 4link you find and use it for your main skill until you get to endgame, barring finding a better 4link. You can use the rest of your gear to fill in life and Res and don't really need much else in the way of links for most builds until finishing them up.

Aerox
Jan 8, 2012


Cool, thanks!

Similar question as well -- when you're leveling a more expensive build that requires a bunch of specific uniques, are there any kind of goto skills/builds to use for leveling when your main build is totally non-feasible for pre map content before you get your level 66/70 uniques? I've only been playing budget/starter builds that are viable from the getgo, and when I look at a lot of builds on the forums they often don't have any info other than a fully completed skill tree and a list of end game gear and I'm never sure how to get to that point.

Thanks for all the responses! Coming back has been fun so far and I think I'm really going to dive in seriously for this next league.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!



you can level basically any build with sunder or a spell like firestorm or arc or bv

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die


Can I get a guild invite again? SageNorthcuttt

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that

TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

Are there any builds out there that use Bladefall or is it just a terrible skill?

A few leagues back (actually, more than a few now that I think about it) I did a maxblock Gladiator that used Aegis Aurora to be nigh-unkillable and ran Blade Flurry CWC Bladefall for offense. It was fun.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011


ah, finally, oblivion



"All Veiled mods will be craftable at your crafting bench once they're unveiled."

So, multimod items are going to be the default endgame for, uh, everything now right?

e: also, is it possible for a party to play the ctf pvp because i am at my loving wits end trying to get into a pubby match for this achievement

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TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Baizuo - People who have no sense of real problems in the real world. They are hypocritical humanitarians who advocate for peace and equality only to satisfy their own feeling of moral superiority, who pity the world and and think they are saviours.


Andy Dufresne posted:

Can I get a guild invite again? SageNorthcuttt

dantae posted:

Could I get a guild invite prior to the league start rush? My character name is secret_witchlord

Betrayal sounds real cool and I think I finally got some friends interested in playing!

Invite sent

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

plz control u toxic hatsculinity



I could use a reinvite too, Chaotically

e: thanks Rodent

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Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008
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A few thoughts about veiled mods:

1) Veiled mods seem to be in the same category as benchcrafted mods, suggesting that they can probably be rerolled if you have an item with great rolls and a crappy veiled mod.

2) Some veiled mods could be quite rare. Therefore, there could be enormous trade value in landing a rare one on your account and then selling the ability to benchcraft them for others. There could also be value in mass selling veiled items in hopes that one of them will roll your desired veiled mod.

3) If the ability to craft these mods sticks post-Betrayal, any standard players are going to want to play as much Betrayal as possible to power up their entire account.

802.11weed
May 9, 2007

“ it's all junk,
fuckin’ trash,
just garbage. ”


Arrhythmia posted:

e: also, is it possible for a party to play the ctf pvp because i am at my loving wits end trying to get into a pubby match for this achievement

iíve been meaning to organize something to get a bunch of goons that achievement. maybe the first weekend after betrayal starts?

whypick1
Dec 18, 2009

Just another jackass on the Internet


Wait...this game has PvP?

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

Arrhythmia posted:

e: also, is it possible for a party to play the ctf pvp because i am at my loving wits end trying to get into a pubby match for this achievement

Why not just not get the achievement

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Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!



Wafflecopper posted:

Why not just not get the achievement

mods??

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