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So I'm trying to get some new players into this with 3,0; what are some common newbie pitfalls to be ready for, from a teaching standpoint?
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Aug 1, 2017 23:10
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I forgot about commander of darkness and purity of elements, so now I'm overvalued by like 50+. Do I just roll with it or do I replace all my rares with stuff with more life? Related, I tried the midnight bargain on my spectre build, and it was way too rippy. Pretty cool when I wasn't getting one shot though.
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Aug 14, 2017 18:35
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When planning a character, it's less 'which class fits my playstylr' and more 'which skill gem do I want to focus on.' Once you pick a skill, then you choose a class and build that complements it. Essentially every ascendancy has viable builds, but saboteur and Scion are probably weaker than the others, while if you read the last page or so, it looks like berserker may be a little too good.
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Aug 14, 2017 18:55
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So I was using poe price to check my stash, and I got some results that seemed...weird. Either prices too high or that returned 0 results. Would goons mind taking a look?   
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Aug 17, 2017 11:55
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Goa Tse-tung posted:btw that build? yeah it's shaper viable because everything is That build was my league starter in both breach and legacy, it's pretty much my favorite.
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Aug 25, 2017 19:06
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Dr Vorici, Or, How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The 5L.
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Aug 27, 2017 14:38
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Some thoughts: I'm having a pretty consistent crash if I try to run PoE and any VOIP. Which sucks, because I like to MP/chill when playing. It seems to be only since the latest patch. I'm into Orange maps, and I still am not currency positive without using Chaos recipe. It feels like my leveling character is bankrolling my mapping character. The guide I'm using recommends Mistress of Sacrifice instead of Spirit Eater. Is there something I'm missing, or is 30% movespeed > 30% damage?
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Aug 29, 2017 10:47
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Soothing Vapors posted:It's hard to overstate how good Mistress of Sacrifice is. At high levels clearing efficiently is all about going fast, and permanent Flesh Offering is just incredible. It makes Shield Charging around incredibly fast and smooth. If you haven't tried it, try it. You can always respec out of it (5 respec points per ascendancy node). Alright on MoS vs. Spirit Eater. I still haven't beaten uber lab. Because I'm bad and keep ripping to traps. It might be because I'm still using Alchs and Vaals like crazy to fill out my atlas, but when I'm not doing that, I'm generally doing the magic method, no chisels. I'm just generally only getting alts and transmutes, along with only occasional maps. Things feel better in the T12+ range, but I'm kinda rippy (because I'm bad, I think my build/character is in pretty good shape) so I haven't gotten past level 86. Which T6 should I use my Shaper's Orb on? I know the meta has shifted away from Strand, but to what, and what are the pros/cons?
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Aug 29, 2017 23:28
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MMF Freeway posted:Yeah specters are a huge pain in the rear end Huge other factor that makes them a pain in the rear end: the desecrate trick doesn't work on all maps. It won't work on maps with the 'spawns many x' and even worse it seems that different maps can spawn only certain spectres. The guide I'm using relies on solar guard, and keeps a running list of whichever maps work. That said, solar guard are disgustingly good, like outside of boss fights they seem perfectly fast at t14. And I'm pretty sure I could make them better if I was using something to boost their laser rather than lmp.
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Aug 31, 2017 20:46
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Goddammit. I corrupted an Essence of Hysteria, and the mob that spawned had such high life regen that I not only didn't get the essence, I lost my last red map (with 10 total kills) and all my experience for the session. I just generally feel like I've hit a wall. Maps aren't dropping, currency isn't dropping, I can't get past the traps in Uberlab consistently enough to beat it. The only progress I've made in the last 30 or so hours has been via Chaos Recipe, which I've been weaning myself off of but it's being replaced with pretty much alteration orbs.
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Sep 2, 2017 00:36
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OK, getting from 86 to 87 was an insane slog, I kept ripping. I couldn't get the last 60% until I decided gently caress clearing the atlas, just focus on getting XP as quickly as possible. In that spirit, I'm presenting my character, MushyStamps, for goon review and critique. And yes, resists are capped, I'm using Purity of Elements. I can probably spec out of one of the 30 str nodes for another 5% hp, but I feel kind of stumped otherwise. My budget is ~50C.
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Sep 9, 2017 23:36
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There should be a super hardcore mode where the character's death deletes the MTX that was equipped.
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Nov 4, 2017 16:39
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OK, so I want to jump in on this league, but I am completely overwhelmed by looking at the new gearing options, so I have no idea what to play. I've been playing fairly casually since Breach, and I've gotten the following up to maps: Essence Drain-Contagion Reverse Shockwave Searing Bond (twice) Frostbolt CWC Storm Burst Earthquake Bladeflurry Specters (Solar Guard) Tornado Shot I liked the Searing Bond and the Solar Guard the most, and I really hated the TShot. EQ and BF were pretty boring, frostbolt and contagion were pretty fun. I kind of want to play something different this league. I've heard Volatile Dead is pretty clunky? I've been thinking about Dark Pact Totems, Ethereal Knives, or Frostblade, based on some very limited research. I don't like mines. What do you guys suggest/think?
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Dec 10, 2017 18:29
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I got an Arc totem build up to 82 or so, and it's my first "not comically gimmicky" build I've gotten past 50. Jesus Christ. I'm not even sure I see more than 20% of what I kill before they get bug zapper'd from 2 screens away. I'm not even confident I'm a major participant in my own gameplay.
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Dec 27, 2018 19:49
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Craig K posted:i seem to recall hearing somewhere that ggg noted that a heartbreaking number of mirrors are found by newbies who "what the gently caress is this thing" waste it on something stupid I would love nothing more than if mirror drop rate dynamically decreased as you played more
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Apr 25, 2019 17:49
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Tai posted:That’s 5 minutes of my life I won’t get back. Can we get back to PoE? This isn’t the “how can I get offended today” thread. if the next league is asmiserable as synthesis it will be both!
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May 17, 2019 13:20
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I'm really pumped: some friends of mine from other games had said they were interested in getting into POE and I tepidly said to hold off cuz synthesis is overwhelming and ending soon, so this league is perfect for newbies. Getting hype as hell.
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May 22, 2019 14:38
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Is there a comprehensive guide to cwc & coc? I've got a lot of questions and that might be faster.
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May 22, 2019 16:38
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please knock Mom! posted:People say they want an auction house, but what they really want is Amazon Prime. I'm glad ggg is sticking to its guns on this issue. gently caress reducing items to one click buyable pixels. I mean they're currently 3 click buyable pixels. I've never really understood what the motivation or goal of high-friction trade is. I mean, if they just outright eliminated trade I'd understand what they're going for, but the only thing that's really getting accomplished by the system as it exists is a lot more people are getting good at making bots to simulate auction house like mechanisms. Is GGG doing like a side business in training people for like Uber's driverless cars or something?
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May 22, 2019 23:21
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TheRat posted:Friction gives items value. Lack of friction means a polarisation towards where items are either worthless or very expensive. Imagine a fully automated auctionhouse. You'd throw every rare you found on there in hopes of someone picking it up, as would everyone else. This would mean extreme devaluation of everything but the most well rolled items. See: Diablo 3. I've heard this argument before but I don't follow it mechanistically. Why would reducing transaction costs cause prices to fall in some sectors and rise in others? Normally reducing transaction costs causes all prices to fall i.e. little change to prices broadly speaking, since the price of currency also falls. I don't see any reason for POE to be unique in this regard. To my knowledge, the main victims for reduced transaction costs are secondary markets, which in POE means trade bots. Is there a reason we want to preserve those that I'm not seeing?
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May 23, 2019 01:18
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I know that GGG is more likely to go full current day d3 than to put in qol improvements, but the precedent is already set as players make 3rd party tools, so, 3rd party trade bots that simulate a marketplace Which will own when a bored fintech makes speculator bots Carrier posted:They are rng, but I find it much more difficult to believe that I'm the outlier over the course of like 8 leagues at this point with lucky map drops (which are themselves incredibly granular anyway so should normalise fairly well over the course of a few hours of mapping let alone a whole league) and its not some systematic problem in how people are approaching the atlas/rolling their maps/misconceptions of playtime to returns. it's much more likely that those of us who have bad luck are outliers. Enough people play that even if an event is unlikely it can happen to hundreds of people. I've only had one map-positive league (breach), and while that's unlikely it's not spectacular, just annoying.
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May 23, 2019 13:23
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Carrier posted:Don't take this the wrong way, but how efficiently are you actually playing those hours? "We lose money every unit we sell!" "We'll just have to make it up on volume." Betrayal was my worst luck - I was progressing for a while, but then ran maybe 100 maps that, in total, dropped less than 70, and usually at lower level until I was back down to 1s and 2s. I was able to beg and trade to get more maps, but that's a dramatic reduction in efficiency. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, "efficiency" in running maps is largely measured in "runs per hour," and I rarely see people say that IIQ is necessary in order to get to reds. But if the problem is drops/run, a lot of the efficiency advice, like don't clear to 0 monsters, is counterproductive. I'm inclined to believe that this happens to a few hundred people a league. The difference between "comfortably progressing up the Atlas" and "slowly downgrading which maps you run" is pretty thin, and there's several axes of randomness. I'm not bitter about this, just find it kind of interesting.
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May 23, 2019 14:32
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TheRat posted:You've mixed up expected value and variance. true lol, but point stands: "just do it more" ceases to apply to poor harvests
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May 23, 2019 14:39
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Vasudus posted:I'm genuinely excited about all of the under the hood mechanics changes even if melee isn't my preferred style. Maybe after these changes it will be! all my favorites have been totems and minions to date, and I'm pretty amped about a shakeup that might make melee feel good, very hype here
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May 23, 2019 15:43
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Why are people defensive about coin flip strategy? As long as there's coin flipping, some folks are gonna get worse results for reasons that are basically not controlled, that's the meaning of tying results to coin flips.
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May 23, 2019 19:10
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boredsatellite posted:sorry guys i have peered into the feature and have determined that this is the league for animate weapons build animate weapon totem is always good
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May 25, 2019 00:16
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On the one hand, I want to really lean into Cyclone CWC league. On the other, Tectonic Slam Chieftain seems rad and I love Marauder. On both hands, I can't do any meaningful theory crafting.
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May 29, 2019 12:57
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Just checking my comprehension of POE legalese - New Valako triggers on "Endurance Charge lost recently." Does that include Immortal Call, or is "spent" or "consumed" or something like that mutually exclusive with "lost"?
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May 29, 2019 15:33
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Cool when I correctly understand something in POE.ThermosAquaticus posted:Thinking about a Tectonic Slam Chieftain, how would you generate endurance charges for single-target? Does enduring cry work for that? You should be able to roughly sustain them once you have them, given the rates of gain and loss are the same, but you need a way to get them in the first place. Tawhoa generates endurance charges on using fire skills, don't even need to hit, just a 35% chance. Never used TS myself so I'm not sure if it's fast enough on its own to feel good. Unless I'm missing something that should get you a few charges fairly safely.
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May 29, 2019 16:28
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Multistrike is counterproductive since it can use up 3 charges in a cast
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Jun 1, 2019 20:29
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euphronius posted:12 impact looks real good ?? A lot of those seem really good. Can somebody more experienced with POE tell me how good Endless Hunger is, pragmatically? It seems really drat good on the face of it, since leech is generally pretty easy to trigger, but I may be off about something practical.
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Jun 1, 2019 23:15
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Xun posted:Is this a bad league to go minions for the first time minions are unlikely to get top treatment because it's a less frantic playstyle than preferred by most poe players, but this league shows no signs of nerfing anything minion and some buffs, and minions were already pretty good, so it should be fine If anything probably a good league since the demand for minion gear will likely be a bit lower due to melee excitement
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Jun 3, 2019 14:01
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I'm assuming Dominating Blow will get the built-in cleave right?
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Jun 3, 2019 16:13
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:It will be hard to do the league mechanic is there a damage threshold or will a curse on hit ball lightning set up do the trick?
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Jun 3, 2019 19:04
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Cynic Jester posted:There's a damage threshold. if they're not targeted by minions or totems, rip ancestral bond
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Jun 3, 2019 19:39
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I'm a bad who often goes right to my endgame skills asap to avoid burning out in the firestorm wastelands, and I guess 15 hours? I'd probably do better if I was more disciplined about not looting and made a list of which sidequests to skip.
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Jun 4, 2019 13:12
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Bow dudes - A friend of mine likes archer stuff in games like these. I've only ever done Tornado Shot, which is pretty funny, but what's the short pro/con on other league starter/newbie bow skills?
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Jun 4, 2019 19:50
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Reddit is in rare form today, you'd think that their healthcare or retirement was stored in "nerfs can't happen" stock Social Media posted:rain of arrows with a herald of agony setup for single target damage is a great leveling setup. it should remain strong even with the herald of agony nerfs Carrier posted:Lightning arrow is baby tornado shot, i.e. it requires less gear to clear really nice but has a lower ceiling than TS. thanks! Scourge arrow seems really cool, I'll probably get some small video showcases of those together
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Jun 4, 2019 20:54
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%DR in any game always increases in value the higher you go up. Ex: if you go from 0% to 1% reduction, you are taking 99% as much damage as before. But if you go from 98% to 99%, you are taking 50% as much damage as before. So going from 75% resist to 85% resist is A LOT is what I'm getting at.
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Jun 5, 2019 04:48
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That change to melee splash seems really good, no? Still likely to do Chieftain Tec Slam, the berserker options are too overwhelming
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Jun 5, 2019 15:12
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