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What the hell happens next?
This poll is closed.
They literally set fire to the ring by accident 2 2.22%
They literally set fire to the ring on purpose 6 6.67%
Film 6 months of content accidentally using WWE prop belts 6 6.67%
Rehire Jeff Jarrett 23 25.56%
Start splicing in archival footage of AJ Styles and pretending it's current 23 25.56%
Accidentally switch the live Pop TV feed to the WWE Network 6 6.67%
Lose the keys to the production truck, film 6 months of content in the parking lot with a Samsung 7 7.78%
Sue a fan who flips the bird on air, lose all company rights to said fan 13 14.44%
Somehow everything gets good and they start making money (Comedy Option) 4 4.44%
Total: 90 votes
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davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

beggar posted:

I know him as the dude who slapped the poo poo out of terry funk and makes weird noises when he throws punches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgmBXpmqCs0
My favorite Hannibal/Devon Nicholson thing is that he sends out all of his PR emails as "Anthony Ambros" but will totally cop to being himself when you reply and address him as "Devon." Always struck me as a nice guy and pretty truthful as wrestlers go, but very much a self promoter. Based on the treatment video diary he did during his clinical trial I don't doubt that he's free of Hep C.

Also he got a settlement out of WWE for rescinding his contract because, apparently, with the no blood policy they had, he had a solid legal argument for discrimination under Canadian law.

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davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

coconono posted:

Remember that lawsuit with the Hardys? I guess its gone.

https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/935973903456927744
There was never a lawsuit.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Tato posted:

I have TNA trading cards of CM Punk and Chris Hero, both of whom were in TNA for like one week.

They both suck. I cherish my cards of real superstars like Red and Black Shirt Security
Did Hero ever even make it past Xplosion?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Chris James 2 posted:

Show more respect to the AAA world champ
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1029573674825859074

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
So it looks like Impact's debut on Pursuit did a...

Wait, that sounds wrong...

NO RATINGS AT ALL.

https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1085042553479663616

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

sportsgenius86 posted:

They drastically decreased what ads pay out for wrestling content
Yes, but they claim it's not systematic/as a matter of policy. And some YouTubers have claimed themselves to be unaffected.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
The lawsuit appears to be talking entirely or almost entirely about the finished, edited/produced shows. Which obviously Jeff should have backed up, as well, but...well, he gets a pass on that for now for obvious reasons.

Anthem clearly has the footage in some form; it aired on Fight Network this past weekend. But the "masters," in ProRes or something like that, appear to be gone.

I'm not sure where I weigh in on the sabotage vs. actual accident/incompetence discussion, but remember: Even if the ownership has changed, this IS a company where the entirety of one of their TV shows (British Boot Camp) was being stored on Jeremy Borash's MacBook while it was being edited...without any backups.

So...who knows?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

MassRafTer posted:

Heyman said that when he looked at the books in 2009 that they'd lost almost 100 MM.
To put this in perspective, 2009 was the year that had at least one profitable quarter.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
...Rosemary is a heel now?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

EugeneJ posted:

tl;dr - the woman was crazy, and many goons are still butthurt that they tried to ruin Elgin's life for nothing
Less that and more "regardless of if you believe her or not, enough came out about him both publicly and privately that it still became clear he's a huge shitlord."

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Elgin also bragged about pissing on a groupie non-consensually on Kevin Steen's old Highspots show, Kevin looked uncomfortable during the story.
And while there have been claims from others around the Ontario indie scene back then that it either never happened or was him co-opting and distorting someone else's consensual pissing story, he still thought that it would be a cool and awesome thing to claim in a conversation being recorded for public consumption.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

He strikes me as completely lacking in self awareness
He had enough to realize that he was considered an utter doofus within wrestling and try to remake himself as having matured through/been humbled by fatherhood and running his own business (his school and Glory Pro). Until all of this poo poo, he had dramatically improved his image on the indie scene, in part because, if nothing else, he's a legitimately good trainer and his students are generally well-liked. So he at least knew enough to leverage whatever goodwill he was able to generate via his students and putting himself out there as a down to earth "I'm a fan just like you!" type.

And even if he was a perfectly decent person, he probably would have lost a good bit of status from the number of guys who do better versions of his act breaking out. Which is part of what's so dumb about Impact bringing him in, much less with an immediate main event push: He's not a buzz guy or bringing in any goodwill! They have and can find better strongman hoss types! What does he bring other than some history with Cage?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

rovert posted:

To me the biggest concern/damage comes from IMPACT breaking the seal on booking Elgin prominently again in North American and UK/Europe. Other promotions will follow when they see the online outrage is just basically for the lack of a better word just noise. Rich Swann has been wrestling on big indie cards for a good year now with very little issue with in part IMPACT's help.
Swann had basically everyone in the business defending him, though—albeit not always in public—swearing that it was just him being put in a terrible situation that looked even worse when he needed to find a way to get Su out of traffic and back into the car. Granted, he did a terrible job speaking for himself in public, as in improbably terrible for someone who apparently had the facts on his side, but still, it's not exactly the same thing as Elgin, whose situation is a confusing mix of the Mo stuff (which, whatever you think of her and her allegations, still included texts and the like that reflected badly on him), having publicly bragged about pissing on a non-consenting woman in an incident that might not have actually happened in the first place but still says a lot about his mindset, and a rush of whispers. Oh, and pulling a Feinstein and announcing that he sold his promotion as soon as he got heat publicly. Outside of his oldest friends and some of his students, who have a very specific type of loyalty to him, how many people are REALLY Elgin defenders?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

coconono posted:

when I was checking out Twitch Friday night, I saw TNA had the most live viewers of all the wrestling shows, so they've got going that they screw up.
Does that actually translate to any dollars?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

rovert posted:

The initial backlash to IMPACT booking/using Swann was much, much bigger than what I've seen today for Elgin. That might change who knows.
They had TV then.

coconono posted:

I don't have the hard numbers but I imagine it can't be more than $500/mo. Everyone who gets twitch checks is really coy about what the money looks like.
Right, that's what I don't get: Impact has long been so gung ho about providing original content to Twitch that it always felt like there had to be more to it, like some kind of larger deal that the average streamer doesn't get, but...is there any way that's actually the case?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Basic Chunnel posted:

It’s hard out here for a CAW
Kross is Actually Good, the problem is that Impact has stopped using him in either gimmick where he's effective: Sociopathic hitman or zen martial artist. (With zen martial artist, based on Bloodsport, clearly being his best in-ring path.)

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

sportsgenius86 posted:

Apparently people are saying Impact is still not going to grant Kross his release.
Which I don't get at all. Dude's still less than 5 years in and still clearly not a finished product, but they're seemingly not doing anything to help him grow while booking him away from his strengths. In the ring he just needs time and the right opponents, and but the Bloodsport match showed that if he's given something he's comfortable with, he can deliver a legitimately great performance. Out of the ring, he's clearly been best at the sociopathic hitman shtick, the respectful martial artist shtick, and the times where he's blended the two together. But for most of his Impact run, especially since being in the top mix, he's been a generic heavy, which plays to none of his strengths and does nothing to develop him.

Dude had one of the breakout performances of Mania weekend, and he's gained nothing from it...other than fans who watched Bloodsport being able to invoke that Impact is squandering one of the breakout stars of Mania weekend. I get that having a great UWF-style match with a ridiculously motivated Harry Smith at the one show all year where U.S. indie fans will surely be up for it is not exactly a scenario that will be frequently replicated. But dude had a great standout match on the best top to bottom show of the weekend in a way where he still made his presence known even though there were numerous established great workers on the show.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Strawberry Panda posted:

Wait do I need to go back and watch Bloodsport?
Yes, Bloodsport was great. From my Mania weekend diary:

quote:

Thursday, 4:00 p.m.: Time for the now-annual experimental show of the week, Game Changer Wrestling Presents Josh Barnett’s Bloodsport, a no-ropes, MMA-inspired kumite. The first show, which was produced by future WWE-signee Matt Riddle, sure looked like the weirdest event of the 2018 weekend, but even with some hiccups it delivered a fun, brisk show that was widely well-received. The concept was refined this year, with clearly defined rules and competitors who mostly had legitimate fighting backgrounds. Even with the stronger MMA aesthetic, though, the card maintained the variety and broader insanity of the first try. Every match was different from the next, and there were plenty of pleasant surprises.

As this was my vote for the best overall show of the week, I will run it down in a little more detail. Killer Kross, the sociopathic heavy in Impact Wrestling, had his breakout match with Davey Boy Smith Jr., a modern twist on early Japanese faux MMA. Technician Jonathan Gresham had the card’s one style-clash match with MMA fighter turned death match specialist Masashi Takeda, and it was brilliant. Catch wrestlers Timothy Thatcher and Hideki Suzuki had a sort of ’70s style bout resembling a old school world title march, which the crowd ate up. They went even more nuts for the war and spectacle of Barnett vs. Minoru Suzuki minutes later. Because there are so many more hours of wrestling to address, I will just encourage you to check out the whole show. It’s worth it.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Pinche Rudo posted:

What are the odds of Jarrett convincing someone in WWE to hire Vince Russo
Nil. Jeff has, thankfully, been over that poo poo for years.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
This is entirely a guess, but I wonder if she feels that she makes enough on appearances and indie bookings that Impact was the superior financial decision for now to being more locked up in AEW.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

MassRafTer posted:

They subscribe to another ratings service so they can only claim that for like 2 weeks until the numbers get reported.
Well, no. The Rentrak/ComeScore TV numbers are, as far as I know, all internal. They don't get out, it's not like Nielsen where inevitably someone with access (pun not at all intended) reports the numbers. All we have is Meltzer claiming that NJPW was averaging about 200,000 viewers early on and some vague relative notes about certain specials doing better since. (Probably from Observer Subscriber Adam Swift.)

So the only numbers we have are very limited old ones from Meltzer and we ain't getting anything else.

Also: Rentrak uses cable and satellite boxes somehow, so it's possible that they're more accurate than Nielsen, but we really have no idea. And since that's not the currency advertisers deal in: If Anthem wants AXS to go ad-supported, they will be going in completely blind as far as what king of audience AXS has in Nielsen terms. This isn't the '80s, when Nielsen and Arbitron had competing samples that resulted in ratings within spitting distance of each other. Rentrak is entirely its own thing. I'd LOVE to know what kind of numbers Anthem got during due diligence.

Bigass Moth posted:

Someone explain why Killer Kross went from a nobody to suddenly this huge desired star.
He was already a guy who had shown promise in promos etc in Impact before they defanged him, but having a great match with Davey Boy Smith Jr. at Bloodsport—and easily the most traditionally UWF-style match on the card, surprisingly enough—was what really got it started. (He did some really interesting social media videos to hype the match, too.) The Moxley match on Kross's own Bloodsport-style show helped, too. It took him from "guy with personality and solid promos in the right gimmick" to someone with massive upside. His in-ring ceiling outside of a shoot style setting is still kind of a question mark, but he's definitely proved that he has more to show than he's been able to show in Impact.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Chris James 2 posted:

John Morrison
Johnny Nitro
Johnny Impact
Johnny Mundo (for Lucha Underground)
John Hennigan (his real last name)
Johnny Blackcraft (for Blackcraft Wrestling)
Johnny Religion (for Pro Wrestling Religion)
Johnny Onyx (for North American Wrestling)
ed: Johnny Foxwoods (for Beyond; thanks to MRT for reminding me about that)
Johnny Penis (for Joey Ryan's Penis Party; thanks to TransatlanticFoe for reminding me about that)

And he was both Johnny Spade and Johnny Superstar in OVW (2003/04)
Wasn't he also Johnny Blaze for one show in WWE before that got nixed over trademark concerns?

Also, IIRC, he was Johnny Spade for a week or so on the main roster. "Smooth" Johnny Spade in OVW was a different guy.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
hi everybody, how's your weekend

FWIW, Bill Pritchard's sources are telling him the same thing about the royalty statement story, though Impact did send him the denial that they didn't bother sending me for some reason.

https://twitter.com/bpritchard152/status/1175112098340323329

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

flashy_mcflash posted:

I mean, TNA's merch sales are probably not unlike their tv ratings; just too low to properly estimate.
It really makes as much sense as anything, that they'd rather nobody find out about the nonexistent merch sales if they're going to basically have nothing to pay the talent in royalties.

They had stupid quantities of excess overstocked ill-advised merchandise when they were a MUCH more popular company. They honestly have no reason to be doing anything other than print on demand merch these days.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

flashy_mcflash posted:

I still regret not buying one of those Jeff Jarrett laser-etched guitars when the price plummeted to around $30. What a piece of history.
Here's another way to put it: They've always tried to have the merch operations of a much more successful company. Why was a company with so much trouble attracting paying fans EVER stocking so much stupid poo poo in SUCH large quantities? This isn't a '80s-'90s WWF where it might make sense to have the functional equivalent to Robbie E sunglasses for random parents to buy for their kids at house shows.

Even if they never paid for any of the merch they bought in the last quarter of 2015: https://www.sescoops.com/exclusive-tna-owes-yet-another-debt-this-time-to-merchandise-designerimporter/

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

DoctorGonzo posted:

I still can't believe how TNA went from hey nobody wanted our TV show to hey we buought a channel to put our TV show that nobody wanted
Just what the gently caress
And Impact will make no money from U.S. TV unless they self-deal for the lulz and/or AXS eventually goes ad-supported and Impact gets a cut of the spots during their shows.

Has there been any reporting as to if Fight Network was paying Impact a rights fee before the foreclosure and/or if they still have been since then with both under Anthem's roof?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

LividLiquid posted:

How the gently caress does the company make money?!
Anthem or Impact?

When all of the crazy Impact financial poo poo was coming out three years ago, someone with access to the books told me that basically everything we'd ever heard (mainly from the Observer) about Impact's profit/loss was true: That aside from a quarter or two in 2009 that were in the black, the company has run at a loss for its entire existence.

Being owned by a TV company for the last two years does recontextualize losses for the last two years, of course, because of the value for their networks, but yes, it's legitimately insane that this company has outlasted WCW by a good five years or so.

As for Anthem...

I feel like a lot depends on whether or not you think they specifically bought AXS for Impact.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

flashy_mcflash posted:

It's the only thing that makes sense, though it still doesn't make any sense. Anthem has sunk an astronomical amount of money into Impact - settling lawsuits, etc - when, if it was live programming they were after, they could have dealt with any number of independent promotions to get the same/similar product. There is just something about the TNA/Impact brand that makes idiots (executives, not fans) open their wallets and walk away.
For Anthem's purposes in acquiring Impact: The library helped, as did the initial acquisition cost basically being the funding of two TV taping cycles and then foreclosing. But they clearly had no idea what they were doing, because they had to lay off most of the Fight Network on-air and journalistic staff within a month or two and everyone else several months later. I still haven't heard a good explanation of what exactly they blew so much money on so early to have to lay off Robin Black, John Ramdeen, et al so soon.

And yes, I agree with your sentiment about the AXS purchase, in large part because I don't remember Anthem making that much noise about further U.S. expansion. There's other stuff, too, that doesn't make any sense: Why did they initially tell everyone that Pop was giving them a grace period to find a new network the same way Spike did...only for it to turn out to be utter bullshit? Was there something there—like Pop was fine with a few extra weeks and Anthem thought the AXS deal would be closed that soon (even though they started talks just a few weeks earlier)—or was it a completely made-up story for either no reason or to keep people from quitting for a few weeks when they heard that Impact was off Pop? Why would you even do that when you'd be exposed so quickly?

On top of all that: Why would a filthy rich billionaire who basically operated AXS as a vanity network be so gung-ho to sell even though AXS's revenue should, by all logic, be nice and fixed since it's entirely carriage fees?

None of this really makes sense at all past the idea that they'd buy AXS specifically for Impact is the type of not making sense that makes sense.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Taintrunner posted:

the AJ cum shirt


This is what I was getting at earlier. You could see why WWE might do something like this. There was no reason for Impact to do it.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

DoctorGonzo posted:

Post the flag

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

STONE COLD 64 posted:

kevin sullivan (not that one) quit
It gets better.

https://www.postwrestling.com/2019/09/23/impact-wrestlings-vp-of-production-leaving-the-company/

First, John Pollock reported on Monday that he had "confirmed with multiple sources that Sullivan has given notice along with several others in his department and is expected to be working with All Elite Wrestling," and more specifically that a “select few” would be joining him.

https://www.sescoops.com/aew-raids-impact-wrestling-production-team/

Then, late this morning, Brad Davis reported that AEW had actually "raided the production team of Impact Wrestling" and "the mass exodus of virtually its entire production division has left Impact scrambling" and that "Impact was blindsided over the weekend when the Sullivan group notified them the working relationship was over effective immediately." Apparently, Sully had been trying to get a contract and some security to no avail, and now "Impact hired a local Tennessee producer to handle the work of several people."

All of this in spite of Sully and company having been working for AEW so openly for months that myself and others had just kind of assumed that he had already jumped. They were even in the credits of the All Out TNT countdown special!

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

overmind2000 posted:

That was when they were under the ownership of the same guy that brought us "Make Impact Great Again" hats so they probably didn't see any problem with it
The part everyone forgets about the SS shirt incident is that TNA actually posted an apology on their website.

https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1148267063246557184

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

rovert posted:

I know. Just it is annoying that people think it is some kind of clubhouse thing why people aren't talking rather than actually protecting Kylie's privacy and wellbeing.
And if what I've been able to discern off the record and second/third-hand is the case, it looks like it just happens to be one of those stories that's going to be difficult to properly report. I can MAYBE see one of the less principled wrestling scoopsters eventually finding out and saying something, but that could happen with any story.

Also: If people's worst fears were true—I don't think they are—then it would be something you couldn't ethically report without her involvement.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
Did anyone go to the press conference?

Like, literally anyone?

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

pressedbunny posted:

They should have moved the title off Brian earlier and had this match at BFG, but hey. In the grand scheme of TNA booking, I'll still happily take this.
I refuse to believe there was any "press conference" beyond that page and an intern handing out flyers on the street.
I got the invite, they literally had a media event at the venue this morning.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

flashy_mcflash posted:

Dave used to get approximate figures for New Japan but that might be a combination of NJPW enlisting a third party to measure it and a person inside the company willing to release that. I'm not sure TNA has any real motivation to do either.
I'd be shocked if it wasn't Adam Swift, who got fired right after the purchase.

Even if it was someone else, Dave...never really got actual numbers? He reported in 2015 that they were averaging around 200,000 viewers and would give occasional relative updates after that. AXS was/is clearly happy with NJPW, because the shows went from old matches aired seasonally to up to date matches aired year-round, but we don't really know anything. Hell, even if we want to fully trust that they've sat at 200,000 or thereabouts the whole time, we have no idea how a Rentrak 200,000 compares to a Nielsen 200,000.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Gaz-L posted:

Didn't Anthem fire most of the AXS PR staff?
Of the AXS TV Fights PR people, they fired Cindy Ronzoni and kept Sean Grabin. So Sean has, by association, been doing some of Impact's PR work recently.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

coconono posted:

its a short walk from Allysin Kay to Sami Callihan. The timing is totally suspect because no one gave a gently caress about that match until Allysin spoke out against Tessa. Then It Became A Thing.
From talking to People Who Would Know, this seems farfetched because Callihan is super high on Tessa and was gung ho about the whole plan. When I first heard the conspiracy theory, I thought it seemed possibly but not necessarily likely, but as soon as I asked around, that got shut down.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

Edge & Christian posted:

Dixieland continues to be a heel faction, leading to the point where TNA announces that August 7 is "Put Your Boss Through a Table Day", commemorating the episode of Impact where the Dudleys 3D Dixie Carter through a table against explicit requests from Spike TV that they not show man-on-woman violence, one of the key acts that led them to losing the Spike TV contract.
Wasn't the story at the time that they got special permission from Spike?

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davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
Alpha 1 had kind of vanished from IWTV, so I guess that's why. I wonder how well that pays?

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