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New Concept Hole
Oct 10, 2012



An alternate reality where Barry Bonds is signed by the Colorado Rockies.

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Abel Wingnut
Dec 23, 2002



altuve has the best shot as of now. if acuna is for real and produces at his highest level, maybe

we're still talking a < 1% chance for either of them at their peak

also note fields are way smaller and defenses are way better nowadays

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your Mother!


Tom Gorman posted:

There were more than a few disgusting streaks that Albert went on that I thought might have a chance.

Ichiro might have done it, but I wouldn't have put money on it. Tony Gwynn, always.

At the time, Nomar was the guy I felt had the most legitimate shot in his short prime. Even above Bonds, at some point between 1999 and 2001.

Didn't Helton carry .400 into, like, August one year?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006




MrMojok posted:

I've been thinking about something for a while. I've thought for years we wouldn't see anyone hit .400 again. Nobody can maintain the level needed against modern pitching to finish up there.

Then, watching Judge in the derby. Seeing how he was swinging in round three just like he did in the first round. He looked kind of like he was at the driving range. He's a huge, strong dude but people get bigger all the time and there are going to be other really big, strong dudes showing up. Now imagine a guy Judge's size with a great eye for the zone and great discipline. A guy who makes you throw strikes. Joey Votto in Judge's body. And he stays healthy.

.400, yes or no?

Nope.

The thing with Judge is that he's always going to strike out a lot. Plate discipline can cut down on that by some but when you're swinging that hard, it's much more difficult to adjust to a pitch with late movement, or to lay off one that breaks out of the zone.

Timby posted:

Didn't Helton carry .400 into, like, August one year?

In 2000 he was only over .400 until June 10th, but he was at .393 on September 1st.

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Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

If we're talking about who carried a >400 average the latest into the year (post-Williams), I think Olerud 93 still holds that record. There was a Tony Fernandez year in either the late 90s or early 00s where he also was over 400 into June or July.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010


Hand Knit posted:

If we're talking about who carried a >400 average the latest into the year (post-Williams), I think Olerud 93 still holds that record. There was a Tony Fernandez year in either the late 90s or early 00s where he also was over 400 into June or July.

If I"m reading game logs right Olerud only made it to August 2nd over .400. George Brett was over .400 at September 19th in 1980.

Checking Gwynn's 1994 he was never over .400 after May which is kind of amazing, because he was always right there. Like he rarely went below .380 and spent a ton of games over .390 but didn't crack .400 at any point before the strike.

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

I'm glad that this is an environment where you feel free to fail.



Albert hit #610 last night, now in sole possession of most HR by a player born outside the US and 2 back from Thome. He's also at 2931 hits and 1896 RBI .

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002



still irritated that pillar got thrown out last night. Dude took pride in never having been thrown out like Jeter, and he breaks the streak on some everyday bullshit like that.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003



Altuve's still hitting .418 on the road, impossibly

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006



Tom Gorman posted:

There were more than a few disgusting streaks that Albert went on that I thought might have a chance.

Ichiro might have done it, but I wouldn't have put money on it. Tony Gwynn, always.

At the time, Nomar was the guy I felt had the most legitimate shot in his short prime. Even above Bonds, at some point between 1999 and 2001.

It's amazing how fast Nomar's career fell off a cliff. I guess it was somewhat injury related?

NiceGuy
Dec 13, 2006

~win DANCE repeat~


I think that's a bit of an understatement. He coulda been a contenda'

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010


NiceGuy posted:

I think that's somewhat of an understatement. He coulda been a contenda'

At the time I honestly thought Nomar would end up the best player out of him/Arod/Jeter. I mean this was a somewhat legit debate back at that point.

I'm also dumb, especially looking back at what Rodriguez had already accomplished. But I wasn't the only one.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your Mother!


tadashi posted:

It's amazing how fast Nomar's career fell off a cliff. I guess it was somewhat injury related?

Almost completely injury-related. That wrist sheath injury he had completely changed his swing, and then he had I think an Achilles injury, and then his groin exploded at the beginning of his first full season with the Cubs. He was never the same after all of that.

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bewbies
Sep 23, 2003
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Fun Shoe

I feel like late 90s Nomar really didn't have a comparable in the history of the game (Honus wager?)...he was really something

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