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internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
We're doing a 12-man Yahoo Keeper league with a $30 buy-in. We started last year 2 years 3 years ago 4 years ago and it's always a blast. I'm a little late with my leagues this year but let's hope this works out.

I'm sending out emails and PMs to all of last year's players. I'll update the team list as it goes along.

#. SA - Yahoo
1. internet inc - mr. noodles - RENEWED :homebrew:
2. dalstrs - Taco - RENEWED :homebrew:
3. ffoecaf - Hernandez Body Count - RENEWED :homebrew:
4. wandler20 - The Dougernauts - RENEWED :homebrew:
5. Yoshifan823 -> DC Murderverse - Steve Smith Fight Co - RENEWED :homebrew:
6. U Deflated Bro? - U Deflated Bro? - RENEWED :homebrew:
7. moghow - no use for a team - RENEWED :homebrew:
8. 5436 - TonyStewartRacing OUT - No answer Replaced by: Team Tebow :homebrew:
9. dewey7788 - Cutty Does It - RENEWED :homebrew:
10. Von Bonez RENEWED :homebrew:
11. blue squares OUT - Stopped playing after Week 2 Replaced by: Girlfriend :homebrew:
12. Frustrated OUT Replaced by: OxySnake :homebrew:

:homebrew: = PAID

RULES:

Snake draft, Yahoo Standard Scoring
QB, WR, WR, W/R/T, RB, RB, TE, K, D/ST, 6x BN
3 keepers per year (max) and I'm blocking the first 2 rounds for keepers status since we voted to keep players as long as we want.
3 divisions, 6 playoff spots with 3 byes. #1 seed of every division advances, the other 3 go into the playoffs with their overall records. In other words, we could have playoffs with all of division 1 and the winners of division 2 and 3.
Waiver period is 2 days and will work as a continual rolling list, meaning you can hold on to your waiver pick for as long as you want.
The penalty for keeper status is +1 draft round per year and you can keep these players for as long as you want.
Payouts will be 60% for the playoff winner, 30% for second place, and 10% for third place.
I will be collecting your money through PayPal.

My PayPal is still internet.incorporated at Google's mail service.

I'm hoping everyone besides blue squares comes back for season 4 since it's a little harder to find new players in keepers leagues. If not, I'll be taking names for replacements.

So far this absolute train wreck is available to the best offer:

blue square's team

quote:

Drew Brees (NO - QB) - Round 4, Pick 3 - Can be kept for a 3rd round pick
Brandin Cooks (NE - WR) - Round 1, Pick 10 - Can't be kept
Jordy Nelson (GB - WR) - Round 2, Pick 3 - Can't be kept
Ryan Mathews (Phi - RB) Q - Round 3, Pick 10 - Can be kept for a 2nd round pick
Thomas Rawls (Sea - RB) - Round 12, Pick 3 - Can be kept for an 11th round pick
Zach Ertz (Phi - TE) - Round 5, Pick 10 - Can be kept for a 4th round pick
Kamar Aiken (Ind - WR) - Round 9, Pick 10 - Can be kept for an 8th round pick
Dwayne Allen (NE - TE) - Round 10, Pick 3 - Can be kept for a 9th round pick
Mohamed Sanu (Atl - WR) - Round 11, Pick 10 - Can be kept for a 10th round pick
Darren Sproles (Phi - RB) - Round 13, Pick 10 - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Josh Gordon (Cle - WR) SUSP - Round 14, Pick 3 - Can be kept for a 13th round pick
Giovani Bernard (Cin - RB) - Round 5, Pick 3 - Can be kept for a 4th round pick
Graham Gano (Car - K) - Round 7, Pick 10 - Can be kept for a 6th round pick
Denver (Den - DEF) - Round 6, Pick 3 - Can be kept for a 5th round pick
Buffalo (Buf - DEF) - Round 15, Pick 10 - Can be kept for a 14th round pick

Frustrated's team

quote:

Matthew Stafford (Det - QB) - Round 10, Pick 2 - Can be kept for a 9th round pick
Kenny Britt (Cle - WR) - Undrafted - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Brandon Marshall (NYG - WR) - Round 3, Pick 11 - Can be kept for a 2nd round pick
Mark Ingram (NO - RB) - Round 1, Pick 11 - Can't be kept
LeSean McCoy (Buf - RB) - Round 2, Pick 2 - Can't be kept
Kyle Rudolph (Min - TE) - Undrafted - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Theo Riddick (Det - RB) Q - Round 11, Pick 11 - Can be kept for a 10th round pick
Coby Fleener (NO - TE) Q - Round 12, Pick 2 - Can be kept for an 11th round pick
Donte Moncrief (Ind - WR) Q - Round 4, Pick 2 - Can be kept for a 3rd round pick
Isaiah Crowell (Cle - RB) - Round 6, Pick 2 - Can be kept for a 5th round pick
Bilal Powell (NYJ - RB) - Round 8, Pick 2 - Can be kept for a 7th round pick
Jay Cutler (Chi - QB) NA - Undrafted - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
DeSean Jackson (TB - WR) - Round 5, Pick 11 - Can be kept for a 4th round pick
Caleb Sturgis (Phi - K) - Undrafted - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Carolina (Car - DEF) - Round 9, Pick 4 - Can be kept for an 8th round pick

5436's team

quote:

Tom Brady (NE - QB) - Round 8, Pick 5 - Can be kept for a 7th round pick
Mike Wallace (Bal - WR) - Undrafted - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Julian Edelman (NE - WR) - Round 3, Pick 8 - Can be kept for a 2nd round pick
Jay Ajayi (Mia - RB) - Round 8, Pick 9 - Can be kept for a 7th round pick
Bobby Rainey (Bal - RB) - Undrafted - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Jordan Reed (Was - TE) - Round 12, Pick 5 - Can be kept for an 11th round pick
Michael Thomas (NO - WR) - Round 10, Pick 5 - Can be kept for a 9th round pick
Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) Q - Round 5, Pick 8 - Can be kept for a 4th round pick
Virgil Green (Den - TE) - Round 13, Pick 8 - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Travis Benjamin (LAC - WR) - Round 9, Pick 8 - Can be kept for an 8th round pick
Eddie Lacy (Sea - RB) - Round 2, Pick 5 - Can't be kept
Matt Jones (Was - RB) - Round 11, Pick 8 - Can be kept for a 10th round pick
Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) - Round 7, Pick 8 - Can be kept for a 6th round pick
Brandon McManus (Den - K) - Undrafted - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Seattle (Sea - DEF) - Round 6, Pick 5 - Can be kept for a 5th round pick

Waitlist:

quote:

cheese IN
Girlfriend IN
OxySnake IN

Let's do this!

E: Forgot 2 things.

1) Every year it's a pain to find a suitable draft day even with everyone Doodle'ing. So let's just shoot for September 6th at 9 PM EST and see where it takes us.

2) I also wanted to switch to Yahoo's paid league system (much less work for yours truly) but it won't let me set it up from Canada. :canada: I thought about using a VPN and switching to a US home address but Canadian players won't be able to buy in so that's not gonna cut it either. :( Paypal it is.

internet inc fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Sep 6, 2017

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Frustrated
Jun 12, 2003

I'm out. I took over a bad team last year and I wasn't prepared for how absurd some of the teams would be. I think I'm just a redraft guy. Enjoy the league!

dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum
I'm in, just sent payment as well.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.
I'd be interested in taking over a team.

ffoecaf
Sep 17, 2005

Get Off My Lawn
I'm in again.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

I'm Yoshifan823, reborn after a bad run-in with a toupee-d orange goblin and about 62 million dummies.

I'm still in for this.

dewey7788
Oct 10, 2004

Don't Toews me bro!
Hello folks. Let's do this thing.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
I'm back in.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house

cheese posted:

I'd be interested in taking over a team.

You're in! I'll give 5436 and Von Bonez a couple more days to answer then we'll start looking for more players (1 at the very least so we can do a 10-man league if we need to).

I understand the lack of enthusiasm to take over a lovely team so I think we have to either increase the cost of keeper picks, prevent players from keeping players too long, give discount to teams without (or with few) keepers, or offer these teams to the highest bidder like I suggested in the OP, etc. Keeper leagues make sense with your work buddies or families and friends but online it's too easy to jump ship when things don't go your way (no pointing fingers, it happens every year and for different reasons) and leave the league in a bad spot.

So let's think up of a way to make finding new players easy or consider switching to a redraft league starting next year. We can make the rules a little different from my other SA redraft league if you're in both, to keep them interesting.

Von Bonez
Apr 13, 2012
I'm in.

ffoecaf
Sep 17, 2005

Get Off My Lawn
It'd mean more book keeping, but maybe something like Keeper cost is 2 spots, and increases by 2 spots each year kept.

So a keeper drafted in the 15th would be a 13th the next year, then a 9th the second year, then a 3rd the third year.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house

ffoecaf posted:

It'd mean more book keeping, but maybe something like Keeper cost is 2 spots, and increases by 2 spots each year kept.

So a keeper drafted in the 15th would be a 13th the next year, then a 9th the second year, then a 3rd the third year.

That's definitely going to help and it's not too harsh on the current top teams.

I also suggest taking the top 3 potential keepers from 5436's godly team and randomly assign 1 to each of the 3 remaining teams.

They are:

quote:

Tom Brady (NE - QB) - Round 8, Pick 5 - Can be kept for a 7th round pick (ADP: 2nd round)

Jay Ajayi (Mia - RB) - Round 8, Pick 9 - Can be kept for a 7th round pick (ADP: 1st round)

Michael Thomas (NO - WR) - Round 10, Pick 5 - Can be kept for a 9th round pick (ADP: 2nd round)

1 keeper for each new manager and that's it, everyone else goes back on the board. Sounds fair enough to me as it doesn't take away any players from the returning manager and it redistributes the... keeper wealth or whatever. Obviously you could argue that some managers don't even have keepers who are that good but would you rather have 3 good newcomers or just 1 with a simply ridiculous team?

E: Also I finally updated the OP. To be clear we still need 2 more players, one of which could be my girlfriend if we only find 1. I would put up voting on trades to make sure everything's fair and all that. Not gonna throw away 11 seasons of goon leagues to cheat my way to a W. :)

internet inc fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Aug 22, 2017

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
Did you get my $$, paid last week.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house

wandler20 posted:

Did you get my $$, paid last week.

I did but I never got the You've got money email. :iiam:

Fixed the OP.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

stupid question maybe, but where is the league? for some reason it's not showing up on my yahoo page.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house

DC Murderverse posted:

stupid question maybe, but where is the league? for some reason it's not showing up on my yahoo page.

That's weird. No one else seems to be having this problem. Here it is anyway: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/22164

Also with our draft slowly coming up I'm gonna just go ahead and make the call. Out of the 3 new teams, cheese is gonna get one, my girlfriend another, and I've just posted in the main FF thread for a 3rd. If we can't find one, my girl is out and we play a 10-team league.

When the last spot is taken, I'll randomly assign one of Tom Brady, Jay Ajayi, and Michael Thomas to each of the 3 new teams.

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



Im interested, when is the draft?

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
September 6th @ 9PM EDT

:getin:

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



I'm oxy_snake@yahoo.com

Send me that invite and I'll get those 30 dollars to you.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
Invites sent.

Once they are all accepted, I'll randomize the draft order and use that to randomly assign the keepers to the 3 new players.

Whoever has the lowest # draft position gets Tom Brady in the 7th round.

Whoever has the one in the middle gets Jay Ajayi in the 7th round.

Whoever has the highest # draft position gets Michael Thomas in the 9th.

I'll then assign your players and give a week to everyone else to mark their keeper players.

Let's do this. :D

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



Thanks all, I'm in as Tony Dungy's Vinegar Strokes.

Looking forward to the year!

Edit: And Payment sent.

Paint Crop Pro fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Aug 25, 2017

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.
Gotta say, I'm not sure I'm ok with this system for the keepers. Getting a single solid keeper puts each of us at a huge disadvantage compared to the other players. If that is the case, then I have to back out.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
I can leave the other players in the mix if you want, I only took them out because at first glance I wouldn't have kept any. In the past some players have had only 1 or 2 keepers. Not everyone takes all 3.

Or do you mean you would gamble for the big team and be cool with a 2/3 chance of getting the bad ones?

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

internet inc posted:

I can leave the other players in the mix if you want, I only took them out because at first glance I wouldn't have kept any. In the past some players have had only 1 or 2 keepers. Not everyone takes all 3.

Or do you mean you would gamble for the big team and be cool with a 2/3 chance of getting the bad ones?
Replacing owners for 3 teams of a keeper league is a huge challenge. I took over a really bad team in a keeper league last season and it was a tremendous uphill struggle - I'm not sure I want to spend 30 bucks for a chance to end up with Tom Brady in the 7th, especially since there doesn't seem to be a way to check on how stacked the other teams are.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
It's cool, I understand. I'll issue a refund when I get home. :)

For the record, you can look up who you're up against here: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/22164/lastseason

It's definitely a challenge for the new owners. If it wasn't, nothing would stop the returning manager with the worst team from quitting/rejoining and asking the same treatment as the new players. However, I think I made it a little less challenging by distributing those 3 picks and making sure you don't get a 1 in 3 chance of ending up with this funny bunch:

Drew Brees (NO - QB) - Can be kept for a 3rd round pick
Brandin Cooks (NE - WR) - Can't be kept
Jordy Nelson (GB - WR) - Can't be kept
Ryan Mathews (Phi - RB) - Can be kept for a 2nd round pick
Thomas Rawls (Sea - RB) - Can be kept for an 11th round pick
Zach Ertz (Phi - TE) - Can be kept for a 4th round pick
Kamar Aiken (Ind - WR) - Can be kept for an 8th round pick
Dwayne Allen (NE - TE) - Can be kept for a 9th round pick
Mohamed Sanu (Atl - WR) - Can be kept for a 10th round pick
Darren Sproles (Phi - RB) - Can be kept for a 12th round pick
Josh Gordon (Cle - WR) SUSP - Can be kept for a 13th round pick
Giovani Bernard (Cin - RB) - Can be kept for a 4th round pick
Graham Gano (Car - K) - Can be kept for a 6th round pick
Denver (Den - DEF) - Can be kept for a 5th round pick
Buffalo (Buf - DEF) - Can be kept for a 14th round pick

Also there's no way for me to look up keepers from 2-3-4 years ago, but on a hunch I'm going to guess that there's only a small % of keeper players that are kept more than one year in a row. And that's going to drop even more when we do the 2 rounds keeper penalty.

I guess what I'm saying is: let's do this poo poo. :c00lbert: They'll all be hurt by week 4 anyway. :(

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

internet inc posted:

That's weird. No one else seems to be having this problem. Here it is anyway: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/22164

Also with our draft slowly coming up I'm gonna just go ahead and make the call. Out of the 3 new teams, cheese is gonna get one, my girlfriend another, and I've just posted in the main FF thread for a 3rd. If we can't find one, my girl is out and we play a 10-team league.

When the last spot is taken, I'll randomly assign one of Tom Brady, Jay Ajayi, and Michael Thomas to each of the 3 new teams.

lol, i was a dummy, was logged into the wrong Yahoo account. I fixed it.

edit; and by "fixed it" i mean added my other email account as a co-manager.


edit2:

cheese posted:

Replacing owners for 3 teams of a keeper league is a huge challenge. I took over a really bad team in a keeper league last season and it was a tremendous uphill struggle - I'm not sure I want to spend 30 bucks for a chance to end up with Tom Brady in the 7th, especially since there doesn't seem to be a way to check on how stacked the other teams are.

you want my team? we can trade, I"ll take one of those three keepers and you can have Kirk Cousins in the 11th and then a bunch of awful loving garbage. For Reference:

Kirk Cousins (Was - QB) - Round 12, Pick 1 Probable Keeker but it's really not a super great deal to get Cousins in the 11th round.
Emmanuel Sanders (Den - WR) - Round 6, Pick 1 Probable Keeper but it's really not a super great deal to get Sanders in the 5th round.
Sammy Watkins (LAR - WR) - Round 1, Pick 12 Can't Keep, probably not worth a 1st round pick
Frank Gore (Ind - RB) - Round 4, Pick 1 Definitely not worth a 3rd round pick
Rashad Jennings (NYG - RB) NA - Round 10, Pick 1 Is he even in the league any more?
Antonio Gates (LAC - TE) - Round 5, Pick 12 Definitely not worth a 4th round pick,
Steve Smith Sr. * ( - ) - Round 11, Pick 12 Retired
Kenneth Dixon (Bal - RB) SUSP - Round 15, Pick 7 Probable Keeper but how loving sad is it that my third keeper is a dude who is out for all of 2017 and will live on IR this year?
Tyler Boyd (Cin - WR) - Round 11, Pick 9 Not even worth drafting
Marqise Lee (Jax - WR) Q - - Probably not even worth drafting
Tim Hightower (SF - RB) - - Not even worth drafting
Carson Wentz (Phi - QB) - - Not even worth drafting
Jeremy Maclin (Bal - WR) - Definitely not worth a 2nd round pick
Adam Vinatieri (Ind - K) - Is a kicker, not worth saving
Oakland (Oak - DEF) - I mean, when saving a defense is even worth considering, you're pretty loving hosed.

DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Aug 26, 2017

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.
Ya I'm sorry for wasting your time :( Looking at the rosters, "No use for a team (now named who cares?)" looks to have OBJ for an 11th, David Johnson for a 12th and either Crabtree for a 6th, Crowder for a 14th or Matt Ryan for a 14th? Sorry folks - I think I just realized that being a replacement owner in a keeper/dynasty just isn't for me.

Edit: Should I delete team or just have you remove me?

cheese fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Aug 26, 2017

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
So where are we at here? Any idea on draft time/date?

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
Draft time and date is in the OP. I'm gonna widen the search for a 12th player but I'm not too worried. Set your keepers and I'll finalize the teams and randomize the draft order even if we're still at 11 players for now. :)

E: Let's say you have until Saturday morning to set your keepers. I won't be super strict on this but I want to give mock drafters a few days to prepare.

internet inc fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Aug 30, 2017

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

We do have an IR slot, right? My keepers are gonna change based on that.

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
Yes, but only 1 and it has to be actual IR not just the week-to-week player.

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



Did we figure out the keeper situation for the new players yet?

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house

OxySnake posted:

Did we figure out the keeper situation for the new players yet?

We did!

I randomized the draft order like so:

1. Dukes OutFor...
2. Lets Get Phy...
3. TD's Vinegar... -> OxySnake
4. who cares?
5. The Dougernauts
6. Cutty Does It
7. noodles
8. Taco
9. Steve Smith ...
10. Blue Squares -> GF
11. Brady's Bann... -> Whoever the gently caress
12. Blake Lives ...

quote:


Whoever has the lowest # draft position gets Tom Brady in the 7th round.

Whoever has the one in the middle gets Jay Ajayi in the 7th round.

Whoever has the highest # draft position gets Michael Thomas in the 9th.

OxySnake: Tom Brady in the 7th round.
GF: Jay Ajayi in the 7th round.
Last spot: Michael Thomas in the 9th round.

Also I'm very sorry about being this late to set up all the things. I was out of town and in the woods with very limited access to the internet. I'm asking everyone I know, searching every forum, and even asking on Reddit (:ohdear:) to find a replacement for cheese. I'm confident I'll get it done by tomorrow though.

I'll post in here and on the league page keeper players for each manager so we can all get ready for the draft on Wednesday!

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
Alright! I got us a 12th player. He should be accepting the invite shortly. He's a regular in my SA redraft league.

Also, don't forget to set your keepers by tomorrow. I have no idea at what time Yahoo stops taking them, but I know I can set them manually if you missed the deadline by a few hours or whatever.

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



internet inc posted:

Alright! I got us a 12th player. He should be accepting the invite shortly. He's a regular in my SA redraft league.

Also, don't forget to set your keepers by tomorrow. I have no idea at what time Yahoo stops taking them, but I know I can set them manually if you missed the deadline by a few hours or whatever.

I assumed that since Brady wasn't on my roster I just select 2 keepers.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

OK, I might be loving crazy but I can't find where the option to select keepers is. I look under the "my team" pulldown and there's nothing there. I've posted before that my keepers are gonna be Kirk Cousins, Emmanuel Sanders and Kenneth Dixon, can you just set them manually?

internet inc
Jun 13, 2005

brb
taking pictures
of ur house
I got you fam.

https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/22164/draftresults

Traded picks and keepers are locked in. :c00lbert:

ffoecaf
Sep 17, 2005

Get Off My Lawn
Just realized I never paid whoops. Money sent

ffoecaf
Sep 17, 2005

Get Off My Lawn
Hey was just doing my draft prep and looking at keepers. Who cares? has two keepers in the 12th and Let's get PhyZekiel has no 12th round pick.

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dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum

ffoecaf posted:

Hey was just doing my draft prep and looking at keepers. Who cares? has two keepers in the 12th and Let's get PhyZekiel has no 12th round pick.

Probably a trade.

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