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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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How do Muslims generally feel about Buddhists? I realize that's probably complex and varies a lot but I can't help but be curious.

Do non Muslims ever go on the hajj and how do actual Muslims respond to that? I can't help but assume some curious people show up or Muslims bring their friends or something.

Just how much do Muslims love coffee? My understanding is that alcohol was often either forbidden or discouraged historically but Muslims, being human, still wanted to hang around and be chatty while consuming chemicals that would make them chattier. So they jumped on the coffee train something fierce then added tobacco when it became available later on. Is that correct?

Edit: pretty much every religion spins off at least one incredibly bizarre cult. Does Islam have any really unique ones you can think of?

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ToxicSlurpee
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Grape posted:

The coffee/tea thing is huge in Christian areas in or adjacent to the Middle East as well, so I have to doubt it has major religious origin.

Not to mention many Muslims that really wanted to be intoxicated historically did in fact just go and drink alcohol, some still do. Reading back into the historical states and empires of the Muslim world you encounter drinking aplenty, even if it sometimes got repressed by social crusades and more conservative rulers. You even had some Sufis involving alcohol in spiritual practices.

I mean heck the two really aren't the same experience to pursue. True blue Mid Eastern coffee is like downing an adderall in liquid form, very different from the slow-down relaxation vibe booze gives.

Oh, I get that they're different I was just thinking that Islam has things to say about booze but never gave a poo poo about caffeine so it just became a permanent part of the culture. I was reading that coffee shops as they exist now in America are ultimately Muslim in origin if you go back far enough. Periodic supression of one thing and a "meh, whatever" attitude toward the other tends to cement the one. Then again few religions care at all about coffee. Historically a lot of the Muslim world had places to go hang around, drink coffee, and smoke basically as the standard place to go socialize. Like in America we have bars; then and there you had coffee and hookah places. Or at least that was what I read. Can't help but wonder how prevalent that is in contemporary Muslim culture overall. I also drink a lot of coffee so I get curious about it. It's actually very interesting to look at which cultures preferred tea or coffee and why.

Then again I've also heard people say things like "my Muslim uncle lives in a country where alcohol is totally banned. He makes wine for himself and his neighbors."

I also find it interesting which religions prohibit, discourage, or encourage various substances and why. Alcohol and caffeine seem to just kind of follow people around but alcohol didn't exactly develop a good reputation.

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