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extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010

Syncopated posted:

That was dogshit. Real bad.

there were rumors that before they started making dota money no one could figure out how to end hl2 after the events of episode 2, they would start and start over again and again. then dota 2 came out and now we all live in gaming hell

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AverySpecialfriend
Jul 8, 2017

by Hand Knit
i hope it's a good card game like lost kingdoms or baten kaitos

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008

I've never cared about half life since I played it way too late but they really should've finished it, like wtf

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Liquid Drink posted:

Yeah Wolfenstein The New Order is so loving good. Like when you go to the concentration camp and the jewish guy is from a magic race of people who live in atlantis and have space technology and yet were somehow subjugated negating the horrors of the holocaust lol. Such a great game! HITLERS MOON BASE LOL! Monkey loving cheese

lol

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
Nearly all of Valve's senior creative staff- writers, game environment designers, concept artists, Source engine lead programmers, lead game designers, etc.- have been trickling out since sometime around Portal 2's launch, when Valve realized they could just pump out DOTA 2/CSGO cosmetics for eternity without having to actually put effort into making games.

Steam will probably be around long after we die, but what really made Valve Valve is basically all gone. The Valve that brought us HL2 and TF2 and the L4D and Portal games had no chance of making HL3 anywhere near great enough to live up to the massive hype behind it. What chance does the Valve that brought us CSGO and DOTA 2 have?

People really need to move on. The Metro games are better than Half Life 3 would have been. Vermintide is better than Left 4 Dead 3 would have been. Other developers, like Respawn, are using the Source engine more effectively than Valve is at this point. If Valve wants to cater to people with MOBA brain disease for max profit margins, that's their business. People who want to play games that are actually decent are free to look elsewhere.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
Yeah, everybody who made half life half life is not even there. The last paragraph of that story is laidlaw saying he knows noone at valve anymore.
I disagree that fresh blood is worthless, hell thats insane potential, but they wont be able to make half life 3 meaningful (i doubt even the old staff could) and should be put to making something interesting instead of dota card games

Also i think the wheelie desk thing has lead to a lot of the issues in modern day valve, like noone wanting to curate greenlight or do steam support

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
Also, im still amazed how polished and coherent portal 2 is given that its made by what amounts to sheep herding themselves when they feel like it

extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010

Lumpy the Cook posted:

Nearly all of Valve's senior creative staff- writers, game environment designers, concept artists, Source engine lead programmers, lead game designers, etc.- have been trickling out since sometime around Portal 2's launch, when Valve realized they could just pump out DOTA 2/CSGO cosmetics for eternity without having to actually put effort into making games.

Steam will probably be around long after we die, but what really made Valve Valve is basically all gone. The Valve that brought us HL2 and TF2 and the L4D and Portal games had no chance of making HL3 anywhere near great enough to live up to the massive hype behind it. What chance does the Valve that brought us CSGO and DOTA 2 have?

People really need to move on. The Metro games are better than Half Life 3 would have been. Vermintide is better than Left 4 Dead 3 would have been. Other developers, like Respawn, are using the Source engine more effectively than Valve is at this point. If Valve wants to cater to people with MOBA brain disease for max profit margins, that's their business. People who want to play games that are actually decent are free to look elsewhere.

youre totally right of course. but valve never directly said "No hl3 because dota 2 makes headspinning amounts of money for 0 effort and making a new game would just be a waste of our time" which would be tremendously horrible PR, so idiots are still holding out, a decade later lol

extremebuff
Jun 20, 2010

https://www.polygon.com/2017/5/16/15622366/valve-gabe-newell-sales-origin-destructive this is pretty good at putting things in perspective while were on the subject. this is one of the worst bits

quote:

Talented 3D artists surged out of the woodwork, and the airwaves were saturated with feel-good stories of creators making very decent, livable wages off the sales of Demoman swords, machine gun skins and wacky couriers.

Valve themselves eagerly trumpeted that they had paid more than $57 million to Steam Workshop creators over four years — an enormously impressive figure until you realize that it's only 25 percent of the sale price, which means Valve just made $171 million profit from ... setting up an online form where you can submit finished 3D models.

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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

dota 2 is actually a us govt funded project to siphon money from the russian and chinese economies

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