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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

My 2 cents:

Nothing wrong with the Element, though there's some electronics hidden under that floor material (so don't, say, hose it out).

The K24 engine is pretty drat sturdy - there's no need to rebuild it unless it starts knocking or starts burning oil. Do the most basic of maintenance and they'll run for 300k+. Their main weakness is, as with most OHC timing chain engines, is the timing chain tensioner, but that makes itself known on a cold startup (you'll hear the timing chain rattling for a couple of seconds).

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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Yeah, but then you get to deal with the reliability that goes with a Caravan. :v:

They're not bad when new, and can be had pretty cheap with low miles when used, but they're pretty famous for the transmissions taking a poo poo.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Chrysler's the only US based company that still puts out a traditional US style minivan. GM has gone to the City Express (starting MSRP of over $22k), Ford has gone to the Transit Connect (starting around $23k). Neither of those are the minivans we're used to; they're intended to be used as cargo vans or people carriers, but not really targeting a family like the Aerostar and Caravan did.

The Chevrolet City Express is a basically a rebadged Nissan NV200 with a different stereo and front clip. Somehow the Nissan version has a lower MSRP ($21k), though I'd expect the Chevy badged version to have lower resale value, since it has the Chevy badge on it.

If you're looking at new stuff, Chrysler/Mopar, Honda, Kia, Toyota seem to be your only choices for a family-style minivan right now. Everyone else has moved on to SUV and/or wagon style vehicles.

e: also OP has stated they're pretty opposed to domestic brands, so that rules out Mopar. Could maybe still look at the Chevy City Express since it's really a Nissan in drag, but it's very unlikely they'll find something in their price range, since it's still a pretty new model. I definitely get the domestic hate, but parts do wind up being cheaper for domestics, even if they wind up being a rebadge.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Aug 11, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Elephanthead posted:

$14k? What does a normal 128k mile element sell for? That's a lot of spicey bed bug infested hotel rooms.

That rooftop camper thing starts at $9k, and they only have 2 places that install them in the US. I'd guess that's making up a good chunk of the asking price.

cakesmith handyman posted:

Can you access a roof tent from a sunroof?

Apparently you can, at least with the one that was on that $14k element.

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