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DancingShade posted:I hope this show succeeds and completely displaces the rest of the ST franchise so the kind of nerds who get upset over the color of Kirk's shirt threads or the number of windows on the Enterprise can freak out and collapse on the ground, frothing at the mouth in fury. That's won't happen anyway because there's a 5% chance it's still on Fox after the 4th episode. I know McFarlane and Fox are best buds, but Fox is where genre shows go to die quick deaths.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2017 04:37 |
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2024 00:27 |
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R-Type posted:There is no doubt. Discovery's got paywall barriers and had too many good people get exposed to the project and jump ship because of what they saw. I'm predicting Discovery has Mass Effect Andromeda-itus, It will be libtarded, infected with much SJW poo poo and be too far removed from past practice to have appeal to the ST OT fanbase.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2017 19:41 |
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R-Type is the target demo for all of Data's "This is how humans act" scenes
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2017 19:52 |
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CPColin posted:Good save! "I may be a racist who completely misses the point of what I'm watching, but hey remember that pedo mod?" Also if you think a Seth Mcfarlane show won't broach the same types of allegorical topics as Discovery. Just look at literally every Brian episode of Family Guy. Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Aug 12, 2017 |
# ¿ Aug 12, 2017 22:38 |
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The utopianism also made it near impossible for early TNG writers to generate drama that didn't come from a viewscreen. Hopefully McFarlane isn't planning on going full Gene.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2017 10:13 |
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Tighclops posted:It felt like the Krill warship at the end was supposed to be a Romulan warbird, what with the empty space between the hulls It even has a similar color profile. The Orville flying through the 'tendrils' during that whole maneuver felt like McFarlane saying "Look what you could have done with those ships in TNG!" I found the pilot to be aggressively mediocre, but bits like the aforementioned maneuver kind of endear the show to me. You can tell McFarlane adores the material Orville is parodying, to the point I almost wish he'd just done a legit dramatic genre show. If you cut out the dick jokes, 'marriage M I RITE?', and the 30 second McFarlane Ramble bits, you'd have a solid thurs-fri 'Lite SyFy' genre show that could probably limp along with a tiny audience for 3-4 seasons. As is, I'm not sure how long this will stick around. I wonder if the fact that this is clearly a passion project for Fox's golden boy will spare it from the usual season one cancellation axe.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2017 08:06 |
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I finally watched the premiere and thought it was... fine? One thing I did notice was that all of the civilian/off-duty costumes this season look like someone took the spacey futuristic weirdness of TNG casual wear and managed to make it look comfortable and practical. Pockets! Zippers! Actual pants instead of pajama onesies! I dig it.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2019 18:47 |
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Kibayasu posted:Finally got to watch the first two episodes. I'm pretty ambivalent about them. Two other things bothered me about the 2nd episode; when they fly off you can clearly see a bunch of space behind Isaac and Bortus in the shuttle and made it seem like they could have crammed in a few more folks. That could have been easily solved by just shuffling all those extras forward five feet closer to the camera and it seems like an odd mistake to leave in. Second, Bortus indirectly caused the deaths of 45 people who could have been saved if the virus from his porn program hadn’t slowed down work on the shuttle, but it’s never discussed and Mercer even gives him an attaboy at the end of the episode. Other than that, it was an alright episode.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2019 21:30 |
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Look at all these babies who didn’t grow up watching horrific X-Files episodes.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2019 17:56 |
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Pakled posted:I didn't know they'd take their loving tribute to TNG this far. They took it too far since Alara is great and Tasha just kind of existed.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2019 04:54 |
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For all the flaws this show has, the music is not one of them. I’m so bored with sci-fi shows and movies using barely-there ambient scores, it’s almost refreshing to hear bombastic melody-driven soundtracks. I’m probably one of the few Discovery apologists in this forum, but even I couldn’t hum a single track from that show if someone held a gun to my head. Meanwhile, the Orville’s theme has been stuck in my head for three days now.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2019 01:52 |
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It’s a tv schedule, she had to be in hours of makeup each day, and there’s always the risk of a Fox sci-fi show imploding at any moment. It sucks that she left, but it’s easily understandable. My big issue is that since she was one of the most developed characters on the show, her absence is gonna be felt quickly. No one else besides Mercer, Finn, and Bortus has had that much focus on the show and the remainder rarely contribute more to each episode than a few jokes. Hopefully the writers gave each character more substantial plots this season to make up for it. It feels like the show has finally found its footing and the first three episodes have given it serious momentum, it would be a shame to start slipping now.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2019 00:45 |
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Finally had time to watch the episode and I was a little disappointed. I know a pretty significant plot point happened but it felt like a big nothing filler episode for some reason. I hope Gordon’s command training stuff will be a recurring element from here on. It would be nice to actually see the crew climb the ranks and move on to better things instead of sitting in the same chair for 7 years like TNG. Also any future where Billy Joel hasn’t been buried and forgotten after 400 years is inherently bleak and dystopian.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2019 01:16 |
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socialsecurity posted:That chair was on the flagship of the entire Federation, for most people there isn't much higher they could go. At a certain point it has to be better for your career to be a Captain on some frontier ship than a lieutenant JG on the flagship. They even mention this in one of Riker’s promotion episodes, that his reluctance to take a command was starting to reflect poorly because he looked complacent and unambitious.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2019 01:37 |
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Joe Mama Poonana posted:Your opinion of Billy Joel noted, though millions easily disagree with you. As for being a filler episode - this show is an homage to an old late 80s/mid 90s TV show. What we presently call filler episodes were normal episodes then. They didn't always have some active plot arc. Perhaps that's why I don't see an episode like this as a bad one at all I’m familiar with the concept of episodic tv, thanks.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2019 17:51 |
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Whalley posted:They won an Emmy for that episode if you ever want to just sit back and think about the world It was for Outstanding Makeup though, which is understandable since lizard tom is pretty grotesque.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2019 22:58 |
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twistedmentat posted:Look at the makeup in Star Trek Beyond and say that one guy in Suicide Squad beat an entire cast of crazy aliens? I was talking about Threshold.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2019 02:51 |
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Gynovore posted:* They explicitly say they have a cashless society, then later Ed tells Talla "I'm going to buy you a bottle of whiskey". I assume idioms will still exist in future utopian cashless societies.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2019 06:11 |
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precision posted:That was my first guess, that they were radically anti natural birth. This was also my first thought. The astrology explanation from Finn really seemed to come out of nowhere, and the only clue given is the single line just before that about the results of their sample testing.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2019 12:04 |
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socialsecurity posted:Let's spend a insane amount of resources and money to send a message into space, not thing about the actual message until 30 seconds before we send it and have it be about 5 words in our language that we have no idea if others could understand. Impulsivity is such a Virgo trait
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2019 19:42 |
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Mr. Powers posted:It does feel a bit like some bizarro world thing. The Discovery episode was good. The Orville episode was okay. They both dealt with first contact issues (albeit very different stories). I am so used to things being the other way around. The Orville’s folly was getting a Voyager alum to direct instead of Two-Takes Frakes.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2019 22:19 |
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:It was the last episode, All The Cakes in A Birthday World. Frakes directed “New Eden”, this week’s Discovery. Robert Duncan McNeil directed this week’s Orville.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2019 00:43 |
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Mr. Powers posted:What percentage of bridge crew go on to direct episodes? RDM, Frakes, and Levar Burton are the big ones who’ve done stuff outside Star Trek. Patrick Stewart directed a handful of TNG episodes, Avery Brooks, Michael Dorn, and Rene Auberjonois did the same for DS9. It’s actually not that uncommon for long running shows to use actors as directors. John Slattery and Jon Hamm did episodes of Mad Men, Bryan Cranston did a few episodes of Breaking Bad, etc. I’m sure familiarity with the cast and cheaper pay than a real director make it an easy decision for producers.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2019 01:13 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:We occasionally see smaller Union ships that only have one or two spatial coils instead of three like the Orville. I dig this, they remind me of the excellent Vulcan designs on Enterprise. For my money, the weakest design on The Orville is the Orville’s shuttle. The exterior looks cheap and featureless and the interior looks like something you’d see in a zero-budget fan film. I can’t stand it.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2019 07:05 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's the weakest ship design but if we're speaking generally then the engineering set is way shittier I think the Orville’s interiors in general are pretty weak. It’s a similar color scheme and design as the Ent-D, but without the constant presence of the LCARS terminals and various Okudagrams it just looks too spartan and cheap. Very rarely would TNG put a blank beige wall behind the camera’s focus, there was always some panel or bad painting or random extra to break up the monotony.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2019 07:17 |
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You guys really talked this episode up but aside from Bortus’s mustache it was pretty forgettable. It felt like a sitcom-y season 1 leftover.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2019 23:30 |
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Accretionist posted:They should go all outer limits/cosmic horror and have a species give humans transporter tech without telling them it's a combination fax machine-paper shredder. Why else do you think McCoy hated using the transporter?
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2019 01:51 |
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Covok posted:DINOSAUR ALIENS, thank you I completely forgot about this episode, it’s pretty loving horrifying For those who don’t know
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2019 02:51 |
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1/30-2/27 is a Sweeps period this year, so maybe they're purposely withholding some strong episodes for the weeks to come?
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2019 08:21 |
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:What sense does that make if tonight is a rerun during sweeps? Don’t air weak episodes in the middle of sweeps because your viewership will drop the next week, so you only air good episodes or reruns. I’m just guessing though, I’m sure the tactic makes sense to some tv exec.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2019 02:25 |
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Taear posted:Does that even matter nowadays? Even olds can Sky+ your episode or whatever the US equivalent is. I mean the big 3 networks + Fox still use Nielsen ratings to determine which shows live and die, so yes.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2019 02:29 |
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Beachcomber posted:We should beat the rush and decide what we're going to call our doomed campaign to get the show back on, now. "Pickle Pals create fan campaign to save doomed sci-fi hit The Orville" And then you do that stupid thing where people send endless crates of pickles to the Fox TV office.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2019 04:04 |
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I still buy loads of blu-rays. With the continued balkanization of streaming sites and the significant decrease in non-original content on stuff like Netflix, it’s just easier and will likely end up cheaper than subscribing to half a dozen streaming services. Disney is launching their app later this year and will likely pull licenses and transfer them to their app or start playing hardball with other streaming services. Warner announced an app earlier this year and will likely do the same with their shows and movies. And it’s only going to get worse, because every studio wants their share of the streaming media pie now.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2019 04:54 |
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Phenotype posted:The Orville Comes to Heroclix(???) Didn’t they do Star Trek Heroclix for a while? I assume it would function the same. Just give me the drat ship as a model already!
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2019 06:57 |
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:That ship never existed, but ships should exist based only on best name combinations in general. Klysaac
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2019 18:34 |
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I almost wish they’d give the Moclans subtle differences in their head-ridges and just go full Klingon-analogue with it.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2019 17:29 |
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The Bloop posted:do people do this? I’ve seen it mentioned at least a dozen times over the years in TVIV and CD. Goons are extremely weird about how they consume media.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2019 19:11 |
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That’s awesome, but I would very much like to see the Ryan Church and Andy Probert concepts. I’m really hoping we eventually see Union ships that aren’t just “Orville but bigger” or “Orville with one less warp ring”.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2019 02:35 |
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Phenotype posted:I thought the Kaylons were an homage to the Cybermen though. I know they were facing the wrong way, but the shots of the Kaylons working on that computer wall gave me serious Tomb of the Cybermen flashbacks.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2019 07:19 |
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2024 00:27 |
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From the GBS Trek thread:ultrabindu posted:Which one you goons is this? The Orville: stay strong and pure, orvheads
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 18:21 |