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Mental Hospitality posted:I like boring sports. I will sit and watch 3 straight hours of baseball and be entertained, but goddamn if American football isn't the most drawn out snooze-festy sport of them all. And at least baseball has the decency to be aired on cable sports networks for most of the season. This is like complaining about chess because the pieces only move once every few minutes or so.
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I was kinda 'eh' on the 1st episode, really started enjoying the 2nd, and I loved the 3rd episode! I'd say the gender plotline was probably the best any Star Trek or Star Trek like show has represented a truly dividing issue. It didn't cheerlead, it wasn't transphobic, and the ending was really well done. I'm actually super impressed.
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DS9 basically already came out and said on multiple occasions that the holodeck is for loving. There was an entire episode about it, where Quark tries to make a holoprogram of Kira so an alien dude she turned down can bone her.
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Oct 2, 2017 17:59
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Great episode, great prank, meh ending.
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Oct 6, 2017 06:05
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Doggles posted:This is such a Stargate solution. I thought the same thing and it made me laugh.
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Oct 6, 2017 22:25
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DaveKap posted:It's funny how much this comes up but don't you think having an empath on the Bridge, the place where you're communicating with strange new alien life forms, is probably for the best? It would be if she was shown as useful in any way. :Alien screams at Picard, starts listing the ways it will destroy the Enterprise and all of the Federation: Troi: 'Captain, I sense... anger.'
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Oct 7, 2017 01:58
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Yeah, I watched The Orville live this week and other than sports, I haven't done that in years.
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Oct 7, 2017 18:08
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Snak posted:The fact that a race is portrayed this way is the problem. This is how Star Trek works. DS9 did a fabulous job showing that Ferengi culture and values were terrible, as a stand in for how overly capitalistic cultures and values are terrible in real life.
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Oct 10, 2017 05:28
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angerbeet posted:Oh, so they're going to move it around a bunch in the week and then cancel it? If it wasn't Seth MacFarlane's baby, probably. But since it is, it might have a chance. And if the ratings hold for a few years, it may never be canceled and Fox might ride its corpse for decades.
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Oct 11, 2017 02:21
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basic hitler posted:Hey sorry for the football rant but I see people poo poo a brick over the world series pre empt their shows for sixh a brief period i feel like turnabout is fair play when football basically destroys TV for everyone who thinks football blows rear end to watch. At least the rest of baseball is more or less locked away om a cable channel that only broadcasts sport games. Thursday night football is on CBS/NBC, the Orville is on FOX. Also your complaint is hilarious, thanks.
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Oct 12, 2017 20:44
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I finally got around to watching this episode and I am in love. I'm getting optimistic SciFi. I'm getting tense situations. I'm getting really funny jokes(I had to pause when he yelled 'That is a new leg!' because I was laughing so hard). And best of all, I got just a bit of dark mixed in for shock value. I hope this show gets seven years and they flush Discovery at the end of the season.
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Oct 15, 2017 02:40
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But without the Bajorans, we wouldn't have the Cardassians.
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Oct 17, 2017 08:19
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mycomancy posted:I was super hesitant about The Orville until About A Girl. The last scene when Bortus puts a stuffed Rudolph into the baby's crib caused an emotional reaction in me, which I NEVER see Discovery doing. Stolen from the Star Wars Prequel reviews, but describe the characters from either show without mentioning their physical appearance, clothing, occupation or end goals. The Orville passes these fairly well(in most cases) STD fails on every character.
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Oct 23, 2017 02:29
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Just watched it. I agree with many of the sentiments here about LaMarr not taking everything seriously enough, but overall enjoyed the episode and really enjoyed the not-so-subtle message of the show.
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Oct 28, 2017 06:19
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Rocksicles posted:Respect if earned by having a difference of opinion and not hating someone for it. Respect isn't a points based system where you just click an arrow like on reddit... oh i see what i did there.  Edit: Also, STD is bad.
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Oct 29, 2017 01:51
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I really liked this episode. Isaac throwing away and blowing up the game and his line about never speaking about the game again made me laugh pretty hard, and the shuttle crash was tense in a way that Trek has never managed.
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WampaLord posted:
Agreed. Kids will be shits in the future, just like people in general. And the older boy realizing how terrible he was being and telling his mom sorry made me tear up a bit.
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Nov 3, 2017 18:53
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Baronjutter posted:I thought her kids were over the top and reminded me of how so many times when black single mom's are shown having boys they're always these totally violently uncontrollable shits because obviously without a strong father figure kids can't grow up right. Thats been a lovely media trope for a long long time. I just finished watching Vice Principals and it's the exact same situation, single black mom who's a respected professional but has totally out of control hosed up kids because that's just how kids obviously get without a strongdad. It felt like they were presenting her choice to be a single mom as a mistake because look, she's totally over her head can't control her kids at all, this is what you get for trying to have a career and kids without a man. Luckily a strong robodad stepped in and taught those kids to respect their mom and stop screaming and hitting each other for 2 seconds. All kids do this. My nephews are shits, I was a poo poo, kids(when they are comfortable and not being nice for company) are shits. And the kids didn't start acting better because of Isaac, the younger one was frightened and the older boy stopped acting up when he heard the playback from Issac about how terrible he sounded towards his mom. Then he apologized to his mom.
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Nov 3, 2017 20:32
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My siblings and I just bickered and fought using words, until we grew old enough to realize how terrible we were acting. But that was my point: what The Orville showed was bratty kids acting like bratty kids, not an attack on 'single black mothers' as the earlier poster suggested. And at least these kids stopped being annoying and stepped up when they were in danger, as real kids would.
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Nov 4, 2017 00:34
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Well, I'm glad that is over. And at least we can all agree on the superiority of miles over kilometers.
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Nov 5, 2017 20:15
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I personally like to live simple, so I use knots to measure my landspeed.
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Nov 5, 2017 20:40
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Same, I talked to a bunch of people about the Orville last night and how it was a really good show(and to skip the pilot). They seemed interested in a show that was very 90's Trek.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:02
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I thought this episode was funny, and that the blue guy was an rear end in a top hat. Do we really need to psychoanalyze it deeper than that? It was literally The Naked Now, with jokes. Edit: Maybe more Fascination. Peachfart fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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Nov 10, 2017 21:50
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I think we can all agree that at bare minimum, blue Rob Lowe was being an rear end in a top hat, since he spent time around humans and could see his effects on them. But at least he realized his idgaf attitude toward his pheromones almost killed millions of people. Still a mega-rear end in a top hat though.
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Nov 10, 2017 22:20
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Also, Orville episodes sometimes feel a bit rushed at the end. Like 'oh poo poo, we only have 5 minutes to wrap this up.' This episode gave me that feeling. 'We just whipped up a stronger version of the pheromone we discovered 5 minutes ago and fixed everything, the end.' I wish each episode was given another 10 minutes to breathe a bit. But considering the sheer number of commercials nowdays, that may not be possible. Edit: Azhais posted:Let's just all admit that given the opportunity we'd all gently caress Rob Lowe, blue or not, and move on I'd probably be down.
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Nov 10, 2017 22:34
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Phylodox posted:Sure this kind of stuff exists in our reality. If a woman is roofied, but someone other than the person who roofied her has sex with her, is it still rape? I’d argue that it is, but who’s culpable? The roofier or the person who actually had sex with the victim? It is complicated. It’s all kinds of hosed up, which is why The Orville handling it with a wink and a nod is so unfortunate. The episode doesn’t invite any further thought or discussion, that’s all we, the viewers, bringing it to the table. Ugh.
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Nov 12, 2017 05:09
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Mods, please change my name to Sexual Communism
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Nov 12, 2017 19:49
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I'd say the only really offensive thing is giving super sexy drugs to the ambassadors, and even that was an attempt to stop a war. All of the terrible poo poo blue Rob Lowe did was always shown as bad, just not in as strong terms as some in this thread wanted.
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Nov 12, 2017 22:26
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Phylodox posted:I would drop this show so fast if that actually happened. If he goes to Claire and apologizes for a situation that he didn't have any idea about, and they start a relationship based on that, how is that bad? Again, all Yaphet knew was that the lady he had a crush on was interested. She wasn't visibly drunk or high. What did he do that was wrong?
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Aleph Null posted:I think this is the point of the show. And it is nice not being  into a last minute solution all the time(ahem Voyager, looking at you).
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Jazerus posted:to me it comes down to, did the episode's tone come off as very creepy and definitely against derulio, or as comedic? i definitely felt that it was more of a horror episode, but if someone felt it was more the latter then i could understand thinking it was a tone-deaf episode This is a point I made earlier: Nobody gave Derulio a  , and after everything was said and done, they told him to GTFO and not come back. Sometimes TV doesn't have a happy ending, and they just wanted to get rid of the creepy rear end in a top hat now.
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Nov 13, 2017 02:05
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Nazis are freaking out about Star Trek because there a bunch of them now(and our poo poo president supports them) so people are paying attention to them. Plus social media is a horrible cancer that makes everything worse.
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They have replicators, so they likely eat whatever they want, like steaks or cacti.
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tarlibone posted:Good question. But, it's one you wouldn't ask if you'd ever met a die-hard consumer of all-natural, free-range, certified-organic, artisanal meats and other foods. I can totally see humanity devoting entire planets to "naturally" raising livestock so that the meat that they eat is as natural as galactically possible. Hell, it might even go full-circle and they go back to standard, 20th century factory-livestock farming methods to get that "authentic" 20th century hamburger flavor, seeing as how this society has no pop culture post 2017, and how they're obsessed with 20th/21st century culture. I honestly doubt it. It seems like a lot of work and effort for no gain.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:10
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Replicators are magical future tech, please don't try to fit them logically into the present, as it is stupid.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:41
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Neophyte posted:So in the Orville-verse the replicator can transport food/drinks/drugs/stuff etc but they don't have people-transporter tech, correct? That is correct, and it is a good story plot device. Transporters are the bane of story telling and are the cause of roughly half of Star Trek technobabble, usually involving why they won't work. The other half of technobabble being strange stellar phenomenon of course.
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Nov 15, 2017 23:39
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Phylodox posted:Sick burn from a rape apologist. Everyone who liked the last Orville episode is a rape apologist, is that what I am reading? Edit for content: The episode tonight is Firestorm: A fire breaks out on the ship, and a crew member dies; Alara questions her fitness for the job; unusual things start happening on the ship. Peachfart fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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WampaLord posted:She's B'Elanna Torres you nerds. Just security instead of engineering. Except B'Elanna's only character trait was 'is super mad, a lot'. Also, I liked this episode, it was really good.
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Nov 18, 2017 04:41
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Polaron posted:I just want to know whose fear caused the alligator Bortus had to crush. Regardless, it is crushed.
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Stolen from the GBS thread: Seth MacFarlane and The Orville writing team talk at Google https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N54eNGRDH8 Seth mentions at the end that the tone has been more drama than comedy lately and that audiences like it, so the slightly more serious tone should be sticking around.
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