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AlBorlantern Corps posted:They weren't responsible for their own actions because they were Gilliacs, it's just in their nature Why would a new star appearing suddenly make all the Gilliacs good guys? The star wasn't there when they were born so they're still bad, it's just the babies born from them on that will be good again. God that was a terrible episode.
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I don't get why Bortus and Klyden are a couple. Bortus seems way more open-minded than Klyden, who is - compared to Bortus anyway - basically a bigot every time something you can be a bigot about comes up. I know I couldn't be together with someone who is as close-minded as Klyden and it doesn't make sense that Bortus could be.
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Mar 12, 2019 10:57
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I don't want a hoodie, I want that leather zipper jacket.
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Mar 12, 2019 23:09
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How can a hospital just refuse your insurance? Like, what the hell, how is that legal?
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pixaal posted:So in America the hospital says they want to charge 100,000 for something the insurance company says we pay for 25,000 of these a year we only want to pay 50,000 and they pay that instead. If they cant come to terms the insurance company refuses to work with the hospital. You'd think at least they'd pay whatever they normally pay and you'd only have to pay the difference. Then again, it seems a 'normal' rate just doesn't exist. Hooray for freedom of choice I guess?
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Mar 13, 2019 12:02
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Iron Crowned posted:
Yeah I know, I'm just expressing my distaste for it all.
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Mar 13, 2019 12:36
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Aleph Null posted:In the Star Trek Online MMORPG Science Captains can summon holographic ships to help in combat for about 60 seconds. Just three or four Galaxy class (or equivalent) ships popping out of nowhere firing phasers and launching torpedos that do real damage. With traits you can get the cooldown to 3 minutes, I think? No idea why they never tried that on the show. Well, I do know why. Because it's too powerful, but it's still fun to do in a video game. That mobile projector came from hundreds of years in the future and was impossible to reverse engineer, it was impossible to replicate.
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Mar 14, 2019 21:35
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Mokinokaro posted:Talla is so much better of a character than I expected her to be. It took the actress a couple episodes but she's great now that she's settled into the role. I liked Alara but Talla is just a much better actress. I hope they give her more and more interesting things to do in the future.
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Apr 13, 2019 21:38
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Davros1 posted:Is there a massive clean up protocol whenever a ship does insane "evasive maneuvers"? Is everything bolted to the floor/tables? What are you talking about, there's artificial gravity and inertial dampeners, nothing gets spilled.
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Apr 18, 2019 12:04
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Time travel is weird. I wonder if Kelly was active trying to change the future/past, or if it was an accident.
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Apr 19, 2019 20:38
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They should sell the leather jacket with all the zippers, they'd make a ton of money.
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Apr 23, 2019 15:24
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2 things about this episode: * That's NOT how black holes work! You can't just hop in and out of the event horizon like it's a thing you can just hop in and out of. (Looked pretty though.) * The doctor's talk with her kids at the end made me realise that by changing the timeline, they're effectively removing everybody and everything in it from existence, making them the greatest mass murderers of all time. Twice.
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Apr 27, 2019 00:35
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Red posted:The figure I was looking forward to most is Isaac. Naturally, he was the only one with a lovely paintjob. He's not actually damaged, he just got black paint on his face and leg somehow at the factory. Considering the price tag and that I can't get him replaced, that's extremely irritating. Could you fix it yourself, paint over the bad spots? Although to make it look really good, you'd maybe have to repaint the entire figure, or at least all the metallic parts.
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Oct 29, 2019 11:09
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Red posted:Well, painting miniatures is something I've done extremely little of. I've done okay with touch-ups here and there, but otherwise I suck at it. The major thing here is that trying to guess the correct paint to use is nearly impossible. Yeah, and even if you had the exact right paint it would probably be darker because of the black underneath. So you'd have to apply a primer first and then paint over all of the silver. Not easy and a bit of work. Still, it's an option if you want it fixed.
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Oct 29, 2019 15:56
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McSpanky posted:Temporal anomalies are a dick They should do this, and then resolve it like 5 episodes later when they start to realise something happened with time a few weeks before. This is the interview btw: https://youtu.be/8p5p4xKRLWc
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cant cook creole bream posted:Honestly, it was a bit naive of the president to visit the capital of that deeply divided country on election night. Like even if they had lost, there would have absolutely been tries for political assassinations there. Yeah, being there on election night is rather unrealistic. Even if the peace with the Union hadn't been such a big issue in the elections, as a foreign leader you have to stay out and be neutral. Both because you don't want to even give the appearance of influencing them, and because if the leadership changes you also want to be able to work with the new government.
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Jun 24, 2022 23:50
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PaybackJack posted:I wondered why they wasted that reveal of him being born female early on in the episode This had been revealed already in an earlier episode. uXs fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jul 1, 2022 |
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Jun 30, 2022 19:43
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Facebook Aunt posted:I wonder what portion of Moclans are born female? It's definitely more than once in a generation, but surely there's no way it's anywhere near as high as 50%.
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Jul 3, 2022 13:08
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Alchenar posted:It's a step into 'you aren't supposed to think about this too deeply', but it's unclear what 'female' means in the context of Moclan biology. Reproduction clearly doesn't require individuals of two genders. Gender reassignment surgery doesn't make you sterile (even if you transition multiple times!) so it seems like actually sex is irrelevant for Moclan reproduction. Well, maybe it does...
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Very strong episode, liked it a lot. Few issues though: * Why was this device, which is arguably the singular most important piece of technology in all of space and time, just laying around on the Orville? A ship that's not exactly doing the safest of missions? Not that the place where they were going to store it seems to have been a much better choice. * For a sex change of a single girl (which is even - medically speaking - trivially reversible), they ask the top of the Union for permission. But jumping an entire starship (including said time travel device) back several hundred years, just to retrieve a guy who doesn't seem to have done much, if any, damage to the timeline? Eh, let's just do it. * Bit strange how after getting back, they didn't check their databanks to see what, if anything, had changed. * I thought they were going to park the ship somewhere out of the way and deep freeze themselves for 400 years to get back to the future, but I like the way they actually did it better. I do wonder though: since they're presumably doing this thing in regular space, from the outside there's this spaceship out there, travelling from earth to this star and back, for 400 years. Shouldn't anybody have detected them? Then again, space is really big and even within 200 lightyears there's (very iffy assumptions and math) about 100k stars?
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Jul 7, 2022 13:15
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Wheeee posted:jesus christ gordon was o’brien’d by his own captain If the timeline was erased, did it actually happen?
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Jul 8, 2022 00:27
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The Bloop posted:This is a navel gazey question but Ed definitely remembers a real experience that really happened to him so I'd say yes it did Well if it still happened, then what exactly is the problem here?
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Jul 8, 2022 00:52
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The Bloop posted:What problem where I don't know, I'm just thinking about the implications. If you erase a timeline, but it still happened, have you actually erased it? And if you erase a timeline, so that it didn't happen, what have you actually erased?
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Jul 8, 2022 02:35
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Alchenar posted:Actually according to Orville time travel rules you get to be quite careless because the future can come back and fix things. If you really don't want to get stuck you should actively try to gently caress things up. Because if you don't and just disappear, they might call it good and not bother taking the risk coming back. If they could even find you to begin with, which isn't easy since by definition you were hiding from history.
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WampaLord posted:Shame that Lamar and Talia couldn't make it work. Surely there's some kind of safety gear he could wear or something. I was thinking of holodeck shenanigans. They have a holodeck right? Or just telling the goddamn doctor, maybe she can invent some kind of adamantium bones or something? Second, anybody else thinking the Kaylon were a bit quick with the whole genocide thing? I'm assuming at some point they modified themselves so the remote controls stopped working, so they could've first gone for "we're free now, what are you gonna do about it", instead of going directly to murdering everybody. Finally, while I wasn't bored, this episode was looooong. And the diplomacy 'resolution' was still kinda meh. Fairly stupid idea to begin with too, how are you ever going to explain the switcheroo? I guess that's why in the real world we have actual diplomats doing the diplomacy, not our spaceship captains.
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Rappaport posted:If you had a couple of pre-teens giving you agony jolts that make you fall down on the floor for their amusement for hours on end, you might start plotting murder too. The pre-Kaylon aliens were capitalist sadists. Oh I would start plotting murder much earlier. We didn't see much of their society though, and out of the 6 we saw, there was one who was already complaining about ethics.
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Rappaport posted:Was she more concerned about her job, being the 'generic PR exec' or whatever, or about the robots' feelings? And she cited what, tens of thousands of people complaining that their sentient Roomba was getting uppity? I'm not a fan of what we did see and hear of their society. I dunno, she just brought up an 'ethics issue'.
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Kurieg posted:I think this episode would have been better without the weird alien subplot. particularly since the way they resolved it was... weird. "So in your culture you are meant to be faithful to each other but you broke that oath... and we're meant to see that as common ground?" I think the common ground is that it shows that males in the Union aren't just aggressive power-grabbing assholes, but that they can forgive and still work together? Still weird though, and I'm not sure what the point was when we already had basically the same story with the Moclans. As they said multiple times in the episode itself even. And it makes no sense to me that these aliens, who already know about at least the Moclans, would know so little about the Union that they wouldn't know that the Union treats male & female equally. uXs fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Yeah they should do a simulator thing where each of them gets a double that copies their moves ,they go into separate rooms, and the strengths of the simulations are adjusted to safe relative levels. Why would they need to go into separate rooms?
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Jul 15, 2022 03:12
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Yeah the premise in Star Trek is that the Enterprise is the flagship, stacked from top to bottom with the best of the best, so it makes sense that they handle the important missions. And even then for high level diplomacy they would mostly host the negotiations and the ambassadors I think. Well, except that one where Riker did it? Which is basically the opposite for the Orville, they only gave Mercer the command because they literally had nobody else. And I guess they moved up the ranks a bit but it still doesn't make much sense for them to have become the de facto flagship.
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CPColin posted:The robots did it after they learned to talk to each other I would ask why in their heads but I guess it's convenient to be able to look at something and aim at the same time.
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It's kinda dumb how they were essentially dogfighting in a shuttle with no safety belts, using their touchscreen controls. That will never make sense. (Unless you have an AI controlling the ship and you're just giving it vague strategic commands, and even then it's a reach.)mcbexx posted:The matriarch certainly was relieved that Topa was save and relatively sound, but her operation of liberating other females is basically done with the Moclans being expelled and cutting ties to the union. Well, the sanctuary is now under Union protection, so they're arguably in a better position. And liberating females was always a highly dangerous, clandestine operation, so I don't see much changing there. She's certainly not going to stop trying. And yes.
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Spanish Matlock posted:I mean most of the crew were also racist in that way though? I don't know if you can be racist against a group of individuals that want to destroy your entire people and way of life. Yeah I do find it a bit easy to just call her a racist when she had her ship blown up and someone very important to her killed by a species of what very much looks like emotionless robots that also happen to be in a genocidal war with you, for a reason that literally nobody currently alive has anything to do with. Because they murdered them all. I mean, Charly isn't a good character, but it's not because she hates the Kaylon. That's actually the one thing that makes the most sense about her character. What bugs me the most about this season and the series is how the Orville started out as a mediocre ship with a crew that's literally just there because they couldn't find anybody else to fill the seats, but is now without a doubt the most important ship in the Union, being at the centre of multiple wars, having the crew in the middle and in charge of hugely important diplomatic talks, and oh they also invent a time travel device and a weapon that can kill all the Kaylon with the press of a button and no collateral damage. Shame really, a normal ship with normal people finding their way through a dangerous galaxy, making mistakes and trying to fix them is much more interesting than an invulnerable ship of supermen/women.
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PizzaProwler posted:Think of it like George Washington (a mid-level officer who had a spotty track record during the Seven Years' War) becoming the commander of the Continental Army. Yeah sure, it's possible to have one or more people turn out to be really good at something, or for them to be involved in or inventing something important, or whatever. But not suddenly all of those things, all together, all of the time. Or if you still really, really wanted to do this, you'd need to spend far more time having them evolve for it to be realistic. It's just too much I'm saying.
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That, was amazing. My only minor complaint was that, as has been mentioned already, I feel they would've/should've shown Lysella the possible effects of breaking the prime directive before she tried to do that, and get her an actual therapist to guide her through the immense culture shock instead of just letting Kelly do it. Otherwise it was fan-loving-tastic.
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Anita Dickinme posted:Just started watching now but wanted to say that watching Klyden run was absolutely hysterical to me. I'm slightly disappointed they weren't fully nude. Also anyone else feel that Kelly is the real robot? The way she always sits up perfectly straight is inhuman, even Isaac has more of a slouch sitting down.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Maybe they were and that's just what their genitals look like Well, he did say they would be 'fully bare' and 'as [they] were at birth', and I don't think a Moclan would lie about this, so that does make more sense. Unless they are born wearing underpants, but that's just silly.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:You wouldn't download a car Always the dumbest anti-piracy argument ever. gently caress yes I would download a car if I could! I guess if you gave humanity replicator tech and something to power it, there would still be fighting over things you can't replicate. Land, religion, power over people, ... But I think it would still be a huge net positive.
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I love how Seth just stands there sipping his coffee at the end, because nothing else has to be said.
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Peachfart posted:Is it weird that when they were doing the Charley sendoff, that I was actually rather happy she was gone? Terrible actress and a terrible character. I thought she was fine as an actress? Just to be sure I watched some of her longer scenes again and yeah, I don't see anything wrong with it.
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