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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Welcome to he Antifa thread! I think it's a same we haven't had one before, and now in light of recent events, we could use it more than ever.




https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/st...199178736599041

https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/st...185223821615104

https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/st...245781014888448

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/896240055077011458

https://twitter.com/SophiaArmen/sta...219890108948482

https://twitter.com/markfollman/sta...245014707150848

https://twitter.com/JurassicNPS/sta...266548494585857

https://twitter.com/deray/status/896193081510416385

https://twitter.com/_CraigStanley/s...349016929206272

https://twitter.com/thewayoftheid/s...349702534430720

https://twitter.com/alwaystheself/s...213230040887296

https://twitter.com/_MattSavino/sta...252168730165248

https://twitter.com/markfollman/status/8962313877615902

https://twitter.com/AditiJuneja3/st...242929806790656

https://twitter.com/AllieSwearengen...329577034895360


Gonna keep updating this and adding real content.

Looking forward to those guys soon finding out why their daddies wore hoods.

Koalas March fucked around with this message at Aug 12, 2017 around 14:31

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NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

      



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWwoS0XeF9o

Here's a livestream from Cville today. I'm two blocks away in an office. Downtown mall itself is pretty empty aside from the extra police.

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

"Victory..."



Some Twitter follows for today:

@JoeHelm
@AndyBCampbell
@GrimKim

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/BreeNewsome/sta...378811109056512

alpha_destroy
Mar 22, 2010

Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night


Godspeed Koalas March.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007
"If you put a hamburger in the toaster it'll say Happy Birthday."



Koalas March
May 21, 2007



alpha_destroy posted:

Godspeed Koalas March.

I do what I can.




Meanwhile:

https://twitter.com/eclecticbrotha/...369664552574980

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Yup, definitely following this one.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007
"If you put a hamburger in the toaster it'll say Happy Birthday."

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeHeim/...193233826525189

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/Speaking_Plain/...202958026747904

https://twitter.com/Blackamazon/sta...378322493558785

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/896224093132947457

https://twitter.com/BreeNewsome/sta...382930301448192

https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/...383072886718464

Great thread:

https://twitter.com/SaraJBenincasa/...260558214897664

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007
"If you put a hamburger in the toaster it'll say Happy Birthday."

Making a photo black and white really makes a difference

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

"Victory..."



https://twitter.com/cvillenews_desk...381542947332096

tentative8e8op
Jul 25, 2011


Salad Prong

Slate had a good article describing the background of the statue these Nazis are protesting the removal of

Slate - How Charlottesville, Virginia’s Confederate statues helped decimate the city’s historically successful black communities. posted:

In June a resolution to rename Charlottesville’s two Confederate parks was passed by the Charlottesville City Council unanimously. Lee Park, the home of a controversial Robert E. Lee statue that the council previously voted to remove, will become Emancipation Park, and Jackson Park, the home of a statue of Stonewall Jackson, will become Justice Park. Meanwhile, locals are working on ways to counteract a Ku Klux Klan rally, proposed for July 8, and an alt-right March on Charlottesville headed by Richard Spencer, proposed for Aug. 12, at the site of the Lee statue’s eventual removal.

On May 13, University of Virginia alum and alt-right activist Spencer led a nighttime rally in Lee Park in protest of the council’s plan to remove the statue. This protest brought national attention to the battle between local activists and the outside alt-right and white nationalist forces whose actions drew comparisons to the Klan.

What has been missing from this fight, though, is the specific history of Charlottesville’s Confederate statues is intimately tied to Charlottesville’s city planning projects and its persistent displacement of black residents, The statues of Jackson and Lee not only symbolize the violence of the ongoing displacements of gentrification; they also initiated and facilitated these changes when they were first put up. Strategically erecting these symbols of the Confederacy at the edges of or atop black and nonwhite immigrant communities provided Charlottesville’s white elite with a means of physically buttressing their ever-fragile hold of white supremacy.

Lee’s statue was unveiled before thousands of attendees on May 21, 1924, during a two-day gathering of the Sons of the Confederacy at which the city also saw KKK agitation. With the University of Virginia President Edwin Alderman giving the statue’s dedication before several Confederate memorial groups, the ceremony represented a partnership between the state university and national organizations of the Confederacy in the monumentalization of the Lost Cause.

While mob violence occurred relatively infrequently in the Shenandoah Valley, lynchings elsewhere in Virginia and the rest of the country were often a reaction to black economic success that counteracted white supremacist theories. Charlottesville’s thriving black neighborhood, Vinegar Hill, was a prime example of one of these successful communities. The Lee statue, which was erected just a few blocks from Vinegar Hill, sent an obvious message to residents: Public space, public institutions, and public success are not for you.

The Jackson statue, meanwhile, was dedicated in Charlottesville’s Court Square in 1921 during the year’s reunion of the Confederate Veterans and the Daughters of the Confederacy. Depicting Jackson riding his horse into battle, the monument was unveiled from underneath a massive Confederate flag with 5,000 Confederate-nostalgic revelers looking on.

This monument to Jackson lies atop what was once a majority-black area known as McKee Row. In 1914, the Albemarle County Board of Supervisors confiscated the land from its black residents and granted it to the city. The city justified its action by noting its concern about the “rowdy” activity from McKee Row interfering with the Levy Opera showgoers. It also cited concern regarding the presence of young, presumably white, men “slumming” through the McKee Row neighborhood.

To emphasize its punitive role vis-à-vis the black community, the statue itself was built over the former location of the Charlottesville jail. Panoptic and stern, the statue’s function was made clear in its position proximal to the former location of a whipping post.

Throughout the 20th century, the city of Charlottesville has precipitated multiple waves of urban renewal or gentrification. As James Baldwin put it, these sorts of efforts were actually more like “Negro removal.” The planning projects displaced black residents not only from their homes and communities, but from their businesses, their sources of wealth, and their proximity to institutions of socio-political power.

Installing Confederate monuments helped to facilitate and buttress these displacements both physically—by razing and demarcating the borders of black neighborhoods—and ideologically—by marking areas of political and financial power as part of the ideology of the Lost Cause. In the decades after the erection of the Lee statue, the best-known casualty in Charlottesville was Vinegar Hill.

A vibrant black neighborhood and business district effectively connecting the downtown mall to the University of Virginia, it was marked as “blighted” and completely razed in an urban renewal project in the mid-1960s. Its sole civic memorial is a small plaque at knee-height, obscured by potted vegetation, at the west end of the downtown mall shopping district. Its message, “Today Vinegar Hill is just a memory,” is a mere salve, while the Lee and Jackson statues are perpetual wounds.

The ongoing whitelash against removal of the Confederate statues doesn’t necessarily reflect the strength of white supremacy today. It is rather a sign of its enormous fragility. It is a sign that those who seek justice can win. Perhaps not all at once and almost certainly not once and for all. Recognizing not just the historic symbolism of these statues, but also their practical effects is a good first step.
*I cut out some paragraphs for conciseness

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/cvillenews_desk...384292175171585

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

"Victory..."



What the gently caress? Why don't these people hit back?

Somebody fucked around with this message at Aug 12, 2017 around 15:04

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

I AM ANGRIER THAN EVER!

C2C - 2.0 posted:

What the gently caress? Why don't these people hit back?

Because they know the full force of the state and their pigs will be on them, and in support of the Nazis.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



C2C - 2.0 posted:

What the gently caress? Why don't these people hit back?

I could get into this more but we've basically trained our society to shun violence unless it's for "acceptable" and stereotypically cis male activities like sports, war, and romantic jealousy.

A lot of regular people who oppose nazis aren't ready to get slugged or informed enough to know how entwined fascism and violence really is.

so the short answer is lack of preparation.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/896387931350421504

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008


Hey, so a few I know people have floated by the idea of identifying and tracking all of these assholes down. I don't think it makes sense for them to semi-anonymously terrorize the population without us being able to at least expose them to their bosses, co-workers, family and the general public. I don't really have any ethical qualms with doxxing Nazis, because society needs to be able to know about this kind of poo poo and actively protect itself. Any takers?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
:gas;


Pembroke Fuse posted:

Hey, so a few I know people have floated by the idea of identifying and tracking all of these assholes down. I don't think it makes sense for them to semi-anonymously terrorize the population without us being able to at least expose them to their bosses, co-workers, family and the general public. I don't really have any ethical qualms with doxxing Nazis, because society needs to be able to know about this kind of poo poo and actively protect itself. Any takers?

My concern is that doxxing isn't all that reliable, and stands a high chance of ruining the life of someone who wasn't anywhere near Charlottesville. Happened just the other day with a guy who was identified as pushing a pregnant woman in front of a bus despite being in another country at the time.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008


Historical precedent for punching Nazis

https://twitter.com/BigMeanInternet...221725712683008

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008


Darth Walrus posted:

My concern is that doxxing isn't all that reliable, and stands a high chance of ruining the life of someone who wasn't anywhere near Charlottesville. Happened just the other day with a guy who was identified as pushing a pregnant woman in front of a bus despite being in another country at the time.

Good point, I don't really want innocent people smeared. We can try to use some type of cross-indexing. i.e. find their fb or other social media accounts and try to confirm if they're generally racist, then assume that if they quack like a nazi duck, they're probably a nazi duck. Even getting a few would be a good start.

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

"Victory..."



Looks like the police are busting up the crowds for unlawful assembly.

Police chief, mayor, governor...all pieces of goddamn poo poo!

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

Bad storm coming, better run to the top of the mountain.

C2C - 2.0 posted:

What the gently caress? Why don't these people hit back?

60 years of aggressive propaganda from the state and the wealthy regarding the futility of violence and the triumph of passive resistance. This poo poo is drilled into the population starting in grade school - where children are taught to let bullies beat them into bloody pulps and often punished more severely than the bully if they retaliate.

Social conditioning to ensure a docile population in the face of relentless aggression by forces opposing their best interests.

But hey, Gandhi right?

pahuyuth
Nov 10, 2002

I can destroy you


Lol at the counter protestor walking through the nazi crowd with a "Sorry about your small dick, bro" sign


Anyone know the count of protestors vs counter-protestors? Thought I heard ~1000 vs ~5000 respectively

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/a_picazo/status/896272521472786436

https://twitter.com/GrimKim/status/896398499947790336

https://twitter.com/cvillenews_desk...398310789046274

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008


Rime posted:

60 years of aggressive propaganda from the state and the wealthy regarding the futility of violence and the triumph of passive resistance. This poo poo is drilled into the population starting in grade school - where children are taught to let bullies beat them into bloody pulps and often punished more severely than the bully if they retaliate.

Social conditioning to ensure a docile population in the face of relentless aggression by forces opposing their best interests.

But hey, Gandhi right?

I've always found the Gandhi comparisons to be pretty much inapplicable outside of that specific context. The British, while deeply racist, did believe they were governing for the benefit of the governed and could actually be embarrassed about their own atrocities. The rise of the left inside of the British political class also meant that there was less internal drive for colonialism. Likewise, maintaining the colonies was also seriously expensive and more of a vanity project by that point, removing the external drive. Ghandi's tactics were totally appropriate for the times, but against actual Nazis with actual state support, they would all be just so many body bags.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/cvillenews_desk...399502298533888

https://twitter.com/NBC29/status/896396807353360385

https://twitter.com/AP/status/896399022474350594

https://twitter.com/votevets/status/896398936784510976

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/896399151986028548

nwo hatchet man
May 4, 2013

A blue belt in jiu-jitsu, but a black belt in posting


Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/ezlusztig/status/896359940532645888

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/davidschneider/...276405675229184

https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/stat...359828133564416

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/st...393627147968514

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/st...396463630163968

Throwing Turtles
May 3, 2015


Here's a quick who's who of who's running this thing.

http://www.c-ville.com/kids-alt-rig...s/#.WY8lzFGGNhE

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



If the police really left, this is going to get really ugly.
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/896400997865730049

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/896400460067860480

https://twitter.com/cvillenews_desk...400833583165440

https://twitter.com/bradripka/status/896264287307608064

semi-relevant:
https://twitter.com/NAACP_LDF/status/896400576908595200

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

I AM ANGRIER THAN EVER!


I like how you are posting something that is true as some sort of gotcha. Shows who the real racist is (it's you).

Ripoff
Apr 21, 2003


Soiled Meat

Koalas March posted:

If the police really left, this is going to get really ugly.

If the police have left, are they relying on the national guard now? I mean, are they just conceding the city to the Nazis?

Classtoise
Feb 11, 2008

THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE



Oh you came to your senses I see and surely are not posting this ironically because man that'd be stupid.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Cravius please keep your opinions of the alt-right and neo-nazis in this thread!


Thank you!

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008



It's funny because it's true.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/JoeHeim/status/896403577761124352

https://twitter.com/Tim_Dodson/stat...403267483258880

https://twitter.com/thewayoftheid/s...408421011947521

https://twitter.com/MuslimIQ/status/896407808505110528

https://twitter.com/JoeHeim/status/896404867308244993

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/AndyBCampbell/s...404190297280512

https://twitter.com/cvillenews_desk...408483612045312

https://twitter.com/cvillenews_desk...408523671838720

https://twitter.com/SolidCville/sta...359377107603457

https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/896372686666043392

https://twitter.com/NicoSGonzalez/s...375107437735936

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Koalas March
May 21, 2007



https://twitter.com/tomperriello/st...407771696033793

https://twitter.com/JonRiley7/status/896410647520477184

https://twitter.com/Emcee322/status/896228183430893568

https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/s...410353302745093

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