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Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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Is America the only country you know about?

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Owlofcreamcheese
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Earth isn't a scripted plot, there is no reason America should downfall via a bunch of cutesy rhymes with Rome specifically. It's not like the only two empires in world history are Rome then the us and they are going to match up for some reason.

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rudatron posted:

GDP is up up up, but that doesn't match the experience of real people, who have seen their real wages stagnating or reversing. The only think that keeps pushing life expectancy and other metrics up is technological progress bringing the marginal costs (cost per unit) down, because the benefits of increases in productivity have only filtered up.

In western civilization or in America?

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rudatron posted:

Across the west in general, but tbe United States is the center of the West right now, and you're kidding yourself if you don't see that. The EU has its own problems, specific to it, but there's a lot of cross over.

England was the center of western civilization and its fall as an empire seems to not have destroyed western civilization

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Fojar38 posted:

England's fall as an empire was due to two colossal shocks to the international system mere decades apart at a time when England actually had realistic competitors within "The West", and even then it wasn't KO'd until the late 50's.

And even at it's height, the British Empire was never even close to being as strong as the United States is now. The US is so strong that the word "empire" inadequately describes it.

America is the world capital of America thinking its more important than it is

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