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A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

dank space explorer


Mans posted:

If this had co-op a lot of people, myself included, would it buy it because it seems a blast to play with friends. Since this is just a lovely SP knock-off i'll wait until it's 5 bucks to play it.

Way to encourage tacked on multiplayer. One of the shittiest things about games is if you don't have multiplayer your immediately getting flak, even if your vision of the game doesn't call for it.

This game is worth far more than $5, but go ahead and be petulant.

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Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything


Grimey Drawer

Fart City posted:

Braddock, Daisy, and Joule have quickly risen to my primary team. Braddock for general purposes (the gadget that has health drop with crits is great for general mob management), Joule for locking down areas with her turret, and Daisy for straight wrecking bigger baddies.

I haven't got Joule yet, but I've been running Braddock, Fortune and Daisy which is pretty dangerous as well.

Qmass
Jun 3, 2003



I am enjoying this more than any of the recent saints row games TBH. I can't understand why it got so much hate on release - from the bad reviews that picked on weird minor poo poo to people insta-refunding calling it bland (this is actually the weirdest to me) call me baffled.

Omi no Kami posted:

Has anyone found any particularly meaty synergies among team members? I feel like a terrible strategist, because I've found myself sticking with daisy for everything, braddock in case something has a shield, and any of the characters with master hacker as my #3 because some missions require it. It's utilitarian, but I feel like I'm losing tons of utility by just relying on two unkillable DPS machines.
I have been running 3 characters with squad wide passive buffs to supercharge everyone. The last upgrade category in some characeters gives stuff like squad wide % gun dmg, shield boost etc

Ryoga posted:

Aggressive road traffic is something i'm really loving in this game and is something I wish more games of this type would have the guts to do more often. Also car surfing AI cars is a good way to keep up with the target of opportunity vehicles while you shoot them up.
The funniest part of this is fighting the mini-boss guys on the road. Civilian cars will smash into them disorientating and damaging them. Long as you keep triple jumping to minimise your time on the ground you wont get hit much either.

MadDogMike posted:

Really? How do people use her well? In my experience she keeps getting blown to bits the second something looks at her funny, what's the trick to using her well?
I noticed that the enemy AI has a very hard time hitting you in the air. Long as you keep triple jumping and charging/releasing arrows in between jumps you can do a lot of dmg while almost never being hit. There is either a gadget or legion tech which make air shots charge your mayhem faster too.

Saint Freak
Apr 15, 2007




Buglord

Hardtack is probably my team's anchor (ha ha) person. He's big. He heals really fast. I have a mod that gives him fortify stacks on dashing and you can spam dash up to like 5 stacks or something. His hits are slow, but tend to stagger enemies so it doesn't matter you can take out any one enemy with impunity, and his harpoon teleport them to you so it's really easy to toss it and then go sprint behind a wall or something so that it singles just that dude out.


Qmass posted:

The funniest part of this is fighting the mini-boss guys on the road. Civilian cars will smash into them disorientating and damaging them. Long as you keep triple jumping to minimise your time on the ground you wont get hit much either.
I noticed that the enemy AI has a very hard time hitting you in the air. Long as you keep triple jumping and charging/releasing arrows in between jumps you can do a lot of dmg while almost never being hit. There is either a gadget or legion tech which make air shots charge your mayhem faster too.

In Persephone's office there's a computer with all kinds of stats like 'airtime'. I've spent like 1.5 out of 8 hours played in the air apparently.

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Your next post will be "im gay"


Illegal Hen

A. Beaverhausen posted:

Way to encourage tacked on multiplayer. One of the shittiest things about games is if you don't have multiplayer your immediately getting flak, even if your vision of the game doesn't call for it.

This game is worth far more than $5, but go ahead and be petulant.

perfect av/post combo

berenzen
Jan 23, 2012

Check yourself. You're on fire

Got this gifted to me, and I've been enjoying it quite a bit. Literally only played through the first few missions so far, but it's really satisfying getting environmental kills using Hardtack.

Also, whoever said that Rama doesn't deal a lot of damage is a flat-out liar. If you can aim at heads, she just completely destroys people.

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

I'm here


poptart_fairy posted:

Thanks a lot for that.

Is this cash and crystal system being used for anything particularly interesting, or is it a bog standard open world character development thing?

Pretty bog standard stuff, when it comes to that. Crystals are solely for getting upgrades to how your powers work, cash is only used for building things and buying upgrades that do things like making health drops and cash drops able to be picked up from farther away or increasing how fast an unselected hero's health regenerates.

exploded mummy
Sep 10, 2008

So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from hell
Blue skies from pain
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?

- Incubus



Doctor Rope

Are there any movement speed upgrades

berenzen
Jan 23, 2012

Check yourself. You're on fire

Pretty sure there's a dash cooldown perk when you upgrade your base.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003



Looking forward to this. loving up my sleep cycle, but hey... Video games!

Edit. Wow, people weren't joking about he city being quiet.

Lasher fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2017 around 23:31

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

berenzen posted:

Pretty sure there's a dash cooldown perk when you upgrade your base.

It can not be overstated how much of a difference that makes. For people with a basic dash like Hardtack or Gat it becomes "Dash as much as you can push the button".

Alas, no basic movement speed upgrades. You can summon cars well before you unlock the car shop or the game reminds you that Pushing Up = Car summon though.

I still need to unlock any alternative sports car that isn't the Torch (RNG unlocked the hatchback and both APCs first). But I expect once more my impossible sports car wish will be "A Hammerhead that doesn't need nitros to go from zero to 30. yes, thirty." Even when missions hand me a ludicrously tricked out Attrazione, it just lacks the heft to feel like I'm living up to the AI's commentary about how they bet they could drive through a wall and or hospital in a sports car.

Section Z fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2017 around 23:57

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003



I preordered via digital download on Xbox. I take it you had to physically pre-order to get Gat?

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007


Lasher posted:

I preordered via digital download on Xbox. I take it you had to physically pre-order to get Gat?

From Gamestop, yeah.

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"


Mans posted:

If this had co-op a lot of people, myself included, would it buy it because it seems a blast to play with friends. Since this is just a lovely SP knock-off i'll wait until it's 5 bucks to play it.

I feel you on wanting to play multiplayer stuff. But I don't necessarily feel it was needed. And calling it lovely just kind of assholish.

Oh, btw, check out Persephone's office occasionally. There's neat background stuff you can check out.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Zaa Boogie posted:

I feel you on wanting to play multiplayer stuff. But I don't necessarily feel it was needed. And calling it lovely just kind of assholish.

Oh, btw, check out Persephone's office occasionally. There's neat background stuff you can check out.

If nobody has yet, bigger easter egg is going to Requisitions, and looking in the background behind the snake throne for a more familiar statue.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011



Started with the game, did a few missions. My current team:
- Fortune
- Bradock
- Kingpin

I thought I would not liked Bradock, but she kind of flexible and strong.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003



Section Z posted:

If nobody has yet, bigger easter egg is going to Requisitions, and looking in the background behind the snake throne for a more familiar statue.

And the valve pipe in Gremlin's workshop.

Morby
Sep 6, 2007

Double Trouble

I'm really digging the game so far (only a couple hours in). Feels like they polished the Saint's formula a bit. Seoul looks fantastic.

Medullah
Aug 13, 2003
Fear my Shark Rocket

Oh yeah now I remember why I got Saints Row 4 on PC, I'm terrible at any type of shooting without a mouse and keyboard. Dammit.

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012


Winner of the "Poor Games Poster" avatar.

I bought this cuz I'm bad with money, but someonejokingly said Darkspore earlier in this thread and for some reason this game reminds me of that game. Odd

Stanko-Prussian
May 21, 2006

CLEAN YOUR ROOM!, 'they' said.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK!, 'they' said.
WHY ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH A CARTOON PONY, 'they' said.
FOR GODSAKE! STOP SHOWING US YOUR BLACKHOLE'!! 'they' said.

When I lit the match....STOP SCREAMING, 'I' said


well, i just beat it, that was a goddamn blast and i hope it does well enough to warrant expanding on because i absolutely enjoy the "if g.i. joe was on adult swim" world. i guess from various text in the game and a few bits in videos that the next agent is probably gonna be kinzie, codename "safeword", either that or they got cut after the cinematics were done.

also, volition, thankyou for providing the internet with voiceclips of d.va swearing.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

dank space explorer


Stanko-Prussian posted:

well, i just beat it, that was a goddamn blast and i hope it does well enough to warrant expanding on because i absolutely enjoy the "if g.i. joe was on adult swim" world. i guess from various text in the game and a few bits in videos that the next agent is probably gonna be kinzie, codename "safeword", either that or they got cut after the cinematics were done.

also, volition, thankyou for providing the internet with voiceclips of d.va swearing.

gently caress me I knew I recognized that voice

I hope not, but after the scathing reviews criticising AoM for not being a Saints Row game I don't know if they'll be able to continue with it

I just hope Daisy shows up in whatever they do next.

A. Beaverhausen fucked around with this message at Aug 18, 2017 around 03:48

Stanko-Prussian
May 21, 2006

CLEAN YOUR ROOM!, 'they' said.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK!, 'they' said.
WHY ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH A CARTOON PONY, 'they' said.
FOR GODSAKE! STOP SHOWING US YOUR BLACKHOLE'!! 'they' said.

When I lit the match....STOP SCREAMING, 'I' said


A. Beaverhausen posted:

gently caress me I knew I recognized that voice

I hope not, but after the scathing reviews criticising AoM for not being a Saints Row game I don't know if they'll be able to continue with it

People are dumb as poo poo, it is absolutely a saints row game it's just not set in the saints row universe because there's no room left in that universe, it is completely mined the gently caress out. I mean, poo poo, gat out of hell was more shale than ore, honestly.

It sucks if it dies because if this was a hit they could have made it an eternal game sort of thing. A new map, all the old agents, some new ones, another bunch of lieutenants and new missions etc, i'd pay for new seasons as expansion packs for sure.

Icedude
Mar 30, 2004



Oops, I only just found out that Legion Lairs have side rooms, and that those side rooms can contain secret rooms themselves

Also I'm having a real hard time taking Braddock and Gat off my team. That whole squad XP boost and damage boost are too handy.

Clamknuckle
Sep 7, 2006

Groovy


Lasher posted:

And the valve pipe in Gremlin's workshop.

Is this referencing something besides old cartoons?

Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

I'm here


I wish that you could scan while driving a car. As it is I almost never drive because I feel like I'm missing out on all the chests scattered around the world.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007


Man Hardtack is a beast once you level him up a bit.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

it's so magical


Oh my goodness this game is a lot of fun already - it's very earnest in its silliness.

Weirdly attached to Hollywood. Fortune seems fun but she's so squishy.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011



poptart_fairy posted:

Oh my goodness this game is a lot of fun already - it's very earnest in its silliness.

Weirdly attached to Hollywood. Fortune seems fun but she's so squishy.

Maybe I am wrong, I am a big noob at the moment with the game. But Fortune have a tech that reads "gains shield with movement". I think that can make she not squishy. Then she have "my drone random stun foes". It can be some sort of kind of crown control character. Plus the game ask you directly to have a anti-shield character and a anti-armour character and a hacker. Fortune is hacker and anti-shields. Fill two roles (admittedly, two easy roles).

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

OK who's the AC/DC deep cut fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-fIn2QZgg

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003



Having a lot of fun. I understand the "not a real saints Row game" thing, and I reckon that's why they dropped the Saints Row moniker altogether. If people are already moaning it's not REALLY Saints Row then imagine their gobs if it had SR in the title.

I just really hope they patch how quiet the world is. Ambient chatter, music, the constant screeching wail of a banshee. Anything.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything


Grimey Drawer

Two missions are completely broken for me and I can't continue in game.

Kingpin's recruitment I get to the rooftop party and nothing happens. From walkthroughs I know legion troops are supposed to show

The Planetarium Hammersmith gets stuck stunned when his shield goes up and I can't interact with the consoles

Restarting the missions or the game won't fix either. This is on PC.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011



Mokinokaro posted:

Two missions are completely broken for me and I can't continue in game.

Kingpin's recruitment I get to the rooftop party and nothing happens. From walkthroughs I know legion troops are supposed to show

The Planetarium Hammersmith gets stuck stunned when his shield goes up and I can't interact with the consoles

Restarting the missions or the game won't fix either. This is on PC.

I guest they give game breaking bugs a priority. Make sure to report this ones to the devs the most direct way you can. Or through twitter. Either way makes sense to me.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Mokinokaro posted:

Two missions are completely broken for me and I can't continue in game.

Kingpin's recruitment I get to the rooftop party and nothing happens. From walkthroughs I know legion troops are supposed to show

The Planetarium Hammersmith gets stuck stunned when his shield goes up and I can't interact with the consoles

Restarting the missions or the game won't fix either. This is on PC.

I had the second one, but unfortunately it just... decided to work one time I started the game back up again later. The time it worked, it stopped to give tutorial prompts and I guess the failure was it forgetting to and getting stuck?

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

it's so magical


So, uh, Braddock is a complete monster and makes the rest of the team redundant right, holy poo poo.

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007


Buglord

poptart_fairy posted:

So, uh, Braddock is a complete monster and makes the rest of the team redundant right, holy poo poo.

Braddock owns bones. The AP rounds with the damage buff poo poo all over everything in the game.

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

it's so magical


Yeah, Braddock, Rama and Fortune are my current main team. They murder everything and swapping between them lots negates any squishiness they have individually.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003



Clamknuckle posted:

Is this referencing something besides old cartoons?

I think that's just it, but interestingly Persephone isn't effected by it. Probably just isn't animated to walk around "naturally" like the other characters, but you never know with Volition.

Substandard
Oct 16, 2007

3rd street for life

I'm about a dozen hours in. I don't know that I like a ton about the game in the abstract, because the missions are definitely repetitive (particularly lairs), and the story is questionable at best.

It's pretty fun to actually play though. One of the main gameplay complaints I read in a bunch of reviews that I think is particularly valid is the fact that there isn't a lot of feedback when you are getting hit. It's really easy to get a guy killed / almost killed before you even notice that you are taking a bunch of damage.

The shooting is fun, and there is quite a bit of variety in how you construct your team. At the moment I'm running with Fortune, Scheherazade, and Kingpin, but there aren't a ton of agents I don't like. Joule kind of sucks, Hollywood is boring, and Yeti seems awfully week. The other 9 all seem viable (I don't have Gat).

Overall I'm having a ton of fun with it, but I think it's flawed. I'll definitely keep playing it.

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Lasher
Aug 13, 2003



Yeti is a beast once you level up his melee vs frozen enemies. He chews through grunts like body's business.

I'll second the lack of feedback. Just did a boss fight there that involved a lot of turrets and they just chewed me to bits without me realising because the actual boss was flying around everywhere and I was looking at him instead. Mostly my fault, I'll admit, but still...

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