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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012


Lots of good poo poo this episode too.

Edit: "Am I the Launchpad?"

Xelkelvos fucked around with this message at 16:33 on May 9, 2020

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Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Another clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NctuIoy2wr0

eatenmyeyes
Mar 29, 2001



Grimey Drawer

Scrooge posted:

Embrace the booze.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007





tribbledirigible posted:

Spoilered because it's best when it gets you by surprise, but the Capt. Lou reference just made my week.

I think I missed this reference?

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003



Pillbug

ThermoPhysical posted:

I think I missed this reference?

The first wrestler with the rubber banded beard, I guess? Seems a stretch.

Nothing really super-inside like the random Lupin or anything, Scrooge has a great Liger-esque SSP, it looked like Webby did a Eclipse/O-Face? And the chants were good. Other than that, oh no, All Character Exposition 😤

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.



ThermoPhysical posted:

I think I missed this reference?

At the end of the battle royale, notice how he puts on the beard hair from the first round opponent.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

red bird

I appreciate that they couldn't get away with saying Hell on children's television so Hela became "Hecka". Also I thought she was going to be Hugin and Mumin because they show her portrait twice in the entrance hall as they're walking in, and a tag team that's a pair of Norse one-eyed ravens would have been the perfect long bomb reference.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



This is basically Mortal Kombat but with vikings.

ed: Complete with Dewey's persona attempt basically being Johnny Cage.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 09:24 on May 10, 2020

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

red bird

Ghost Leviathan posted:

This is basically Mortal Kombat but with vikings.

ed: Complete with Dewey's persona attempt basically being Johnny Cage.

His arc in the episode is basically a 1:1 parallel to Dwayne Johnson's pre-stardom WWE career. Everyone hated his try-hard goodie goodie Rocky Maivia persona, so he got over by loosening up and playing the likeable heel as the Rock until he became a super star face almost by accident.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



Also starting to realise why Dewey is staked out as his generation's Donald: he has the same continue-despite-ridiculous-odds determination. And I think Louie even gives Dewey almost the same uplifting speech that he does Donald in the casino episode. However, he doesn't have the same explosive temper to go with it (which went to Huey) but instead tends to finally act serious when properly motivated rather than just showboating.

Interesting personality showcase there; it's been established before that Dewey has a serious need for attention and praise, almost uniquely among his family, and it's really not surprising that he can't handle the heat of being seen as the bad guy. Scrooge may not have much experience in show business but he seems happy to play the role that suits him in this case, since he isn't expecting to be popular on his foe's home turf, and probably used to a measure of bad PR in any case. Funny thing is Dewey basically ends up playing a narcissist-type heel by accident, since he's literally expecting it to play out like one of his dreams.

Also, it makes a lot of sense that a fighting style more for spectacle than anything where winning isn't really important was invented in Vallhalla; where the majority of inhabitants are already dead and spend most of their time fighting for the amusement of each other and the gods, and likely don't hold grudges about losing when everyone gets back up to feast every night. If they win, the entire population of Earth joins them, and they don't see it as genocide. (Though that still totally makes it Mortal Kombat) But if they lose, they don't really lose anything and get to have another fight another century.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012


Dewey is probably more like Della than Donald, I'd think.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007





I'm just surprised this all happens every 10 years.

Holy poo poo this world has got to be exhausting to live in.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013



Fuckin' wanna play Mortal Kombat now but my copy's at my mate's a state over and I don't have a switch.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006

Shepard.


College Slice

ThermoPhysical posted:

Holy poo poo this world has got to be exhausting to live in.

And ours isn't?

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!


ThermoPhysical posted:

I'm just surprised this all happens every 10 years.

Holy poo poo this world has got to be exhausting to live in.

That world has Ragnarok-mania.
Our world has Trump.

I know what is more exhausting.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

This is the dance
of our people



Scrooge's hesitance at the start to call Dewey's name as the next champion for Ragnarok-Mania wasn't just him being a dick, but rather because he knows Team Earth is cast as the heel and Dewey won't be able to handle the hate. And while the pep talk was Scrooge being kind and telling Dewey he doesn't need to force himself into the role, it's also not really what Dewey wanted to hear. It's just pretty novel in a cartoon where someone's idea of kindness doesn't mesh well with what another character wants.

Also, Webby has become the master of trash-talking. Lena taught her well.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



amigolupus posted:

Scrooge's hesitance at the start to call Dewey's name as the next champion for Ragnarok-Mania wasn't just him being a dick, but rather because he knows Team Earth is cast as the heel and Dewey won't be able to handle the hate. And while the pep talk was Scrooge being kind and telling Dewey he doesn't need to force himself into the role, it's also not really what Dewey wanted to hear. It's just pretty novel in a cartoon where someone's idea of kindness doesn't mesh well with what another character wants.

Also, Webby has become the master of trash-talking. Lena taught her well.

Webby's got a bit of a talent for role-based combat, especially considering how quickly she gets a little too into a dart gun battle.

I feel like this episode does emphasise Dewey's traits in common with Donald; namely stubbornness and a tendency to double down on their mistakes. And as I said before, Louie motivated him with almost exactly the same speech he gave Donald in the House of the Lucky Gander, emphasising that his determination can be a very good thing and he should let his actions speak louder than his words. Which, come to think of it, is quite a piece of advice from someone whose whole thing is talking his way out of things- but then again, Louie's talent is specifically noted to be seeing the angles and setting things up so people do what he expects, and that requires understanding what people's talents and motivations are, and recognising they can do things he can't. (Which is also something Louie learned a more recent episode, as Dewey's improvisation succeeded where Louie's elaborate plan failed)

...come to think of it, that seems significant given the emphasis that Scrooge employs a lot of eccentric and weird people, usually competent in exactly one field, and with the kids has to learn to keep a diverse bunch of personalities under control in intense situations. Scrooge is actually a pretty effective boss, all round, and in some episodes you can see him rapidly tone-switching to deal with different people in a way they'll respond to.

Government Handjob
Nov 1, 2004

Gudbrandsglasnost


College Slice

Watching the Ragnarok episode now and did a double-take when Strongbeard is introduced as the Hammer from Kraghammer.
Ducktales voice director Sam Riegel is on another show called Critical Role (where a bunch of nerdy rear end voice actors sit around and play Dungeons & Dragons) and the first story arc in campaign one takes place in the dwarven city of Kraghammer.

Also loving Kristoffer Hivju as Jormungandr.

MichiganCubbie
Dec 11, 2008

I love that I have an erection...

...that doesn't involve homeless people.


amigolupus posted:

Were the Glomgold billboards just a sightgag, or is Glomgold a massively popular character in Japan?

They felt like the Boss Coffee ads that were all over Toyko when I was there last year. They all had Tommy Lee Jones on them.



Everyone
Sep 6, 2019


MichiganCubbie posted:

They felt like the Boss Coffee ads that were all over Toyko when I was there last year. They all had Tommy Lee Jones on them.





That's kind of glorious.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008






My favourite thing is how Scrooge understands that being a heel is way more fun than being a face. He absolutely embraces the role.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007




We've known this about Scrooge since he found a corpse hating him on Mount Neverest.

"If I had a nickel for every person who cursed me with their dying breath, I'd be twice as rich as I already am."

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



Rewatching Moonvasion, and it's just amazing how much stuff it has going on in it for just 40 minutes, and that it works so well.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!

Paget Brewster nominated for an Emmy for Outstanding Performer!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



Looking at Donald and Della and how they interact puts a lot of Scrooge's past and future actions in perspective. He's quite happy with the kids being rowdy and treating (most of) the mansion as a playground because it's just like old times. On the other hand, what we do see does indicate why he brought the kids and not them to Valhalla; while Donald and Della are formidable in a fight they're also prone to being their own worst enemy, and if they came alongside the kids they'd probably get overprotective and get disqualified for unnecessary roughness. He seems pleasantly surprised overall that the kids can work together so well despite being so different.

For that matter, Scrooge having a huge mansion separate from the Money Bin might make older incarnations of him disapprove, but it makes a lot of sense in context; Scrooge has a shitton of stuff, and also more of a clear separation between his personal property and company assets. It wasn't made entirely clear, but I got the idea Louie schemed his way into ownership of McDuck Enterprises (and Glomgold's company) but not Scrooge's personal assets, hence why all his extravagant purchases had to be paid for by cutting expenses elsewhere. The Money Bin is a corporate facility that houses Scrooge's personal office, their R&D and other assets along with the giant pool of gold and treasure, as well as a secondary boardroom, and I don't think we've seen it but it's mentioned he has a probably far more ordinary office in downtown Duckburg that the board of directors do most of their business in. (official business, anyway) Much like the directors themselves, it seems a more realistic (and practical) depiction of a modern megacorporation's management than Scrooge doing everything himself unquestioned. Also, given Scrooge apparently has a history of being trapped in a timeless demon dimension, turned into a child, sent back and forth through time etc. it's probably wise to have the company able to function for long periods without him having to micromanage things.

Also, on Moonvasion; not only did Donald expect the kids to disobey him to join in on the attack, I think he might even have guessed they'd specifically go underwater- it's established earlier in the episode they have access to diving equipment, that Gyro's lab is currently open to the sea, and it's the only angle that none of the adults are currently covering.

And wondering if Donald was in the navy in this continuity, since he's actually for once established to be an experienced sailor enough that he actually enjoys aquatic adventures that he can contribute to. Which might correspondingly imply Della was in the Air Force- would make sense since she actually knows what she's doing unlike the self-taught Launchpad, and likes fighter plane style nose art.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 18:41 on May 22, 2020

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019


Ghost Leviathan posted:

And wondering if Donald was in the navy in this continuity, since he's actually for once established to be an experienced sailor enough that he actually enjoys aquatic adventures that he can contribute to. Which might correspondingly imply Della was in the Air Force- would make sense since she actually knows what she's doing unlike the self-taught Launchpad, and likes fighter plane style nose art.

I can buy Donald being in the Navy. He's willing to take orders (to a point). I think Della is too independent-minded to have been apart of an organized military. I can see her being skilled and talented enough to take a plane (or spaceship) into combat - but not as part of an official national military.

MichiganCubbie
Dec 11, 2008

I love that I have an erection...

...that doesn't involve homeless people.


Maybe she learned to fly from old Baloo.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

Rise and shine, master leprechaun.




Come to think of it, why was Della the one piloting the sub? That's a sailor's job

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Any word on when new episodes will be back?

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019


ikanreed posted:

Come to think of it, why was Della the one piloting the sub? That's a sailor's job

Because a submarine is a vehicle that basically "flies" underwater and that's close enough for her.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

red bird

Technowolf posted:

Any word on when new episodes will be back?

https://twitter.com/FrankAngones/st...556571127799808

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howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters


I mean, that's understandable, but at the same time the funny ducks were a high point of my week.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

yay


howe_sam posted:

I mean, that's understandable, but at the same time the funny ducks were a high point of my week.

Yeah, that's a valid way to feel.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Everyone posted:

Because a submarine is a vehicle that basically "flies" underwater and that's close enough for her.

On the other hand, Donald is in charge of airships. Also spaceships, which is why Della crashed hers.
Wasn't there actually a scene where those two where bickering who has control over the thing they were in? Can't quite remember.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017



cant cook creole bream posted:

On the other hand, Donald is in charge of airships. Also spaceships, which is why Della crashed hers.
Wasn't there actually a scene where those two where bickering who has control over the thing they were in? Can't quite remember.

Moonvasion where they fight over the controls of the spaceship, yeah. And judging from Scrooge's reaction this is entirely normal for them.

Definitely explains why Scrooge hired Launchpad.

Also makes an interesting contrast to the kids, who have diverse skillsets with some overlap, and generally recognise this and let the one they know is best suited to a situation lead the way. Usually if there's conflict it's with Dewey, who has the more rounded skillset but often prefers to approach situations differently than Huey or Louie would (see The Infernal Internship and Louie's Eleven) with more emphasis on improvisation than having a complex plan.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 08:55 on May 24, 2020

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