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MichiganCubbie
Dec 11, 2008

I love that I have an erection...

...that doesn't involve homeless people.

Ducktales is totally Venture Brothers. That's a great thing.

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Nameless Pete
May 8, 2007

Get a load of those...
On that subject, Harley Quinn is absolutely the "hard R" Venture Brothers.

Edit: HardER, I mean. The definition of a "Rusty Venture" is way funnier bleeped.

Nameless Pete fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Aug 22, 2020

eatenmyeyes
Mar 29, 2001

Grimey Drawer

MichiganCubbie posted:

None of those episodes feel like a trip to Cape Suzette. :(

Since S1E1

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013





MichiganCubbie posted:

Ducktales is totally Venture Brothers. That's a great thing.

Well, hopefully the one aspect of Venture Bros. it never apes is the whole "cancellation" thing :v:

https://twitter.com/FrankAngones/status/1303133872591314944

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Sep 8, 2020

MichiganCubbie
Dec 11, 2008

I love that I have an erection...

...that doesn't involve homeless people.

I found out Venture Brothers hot cancelled from the Ducktales thread. :-(

Not like this. Not like this.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

It got cancelled because Hulu has a contract for the streaming rights and post-AT&T takeover, anything Warnermedia can't put on HBO Max is getting the axe, because that's the only arms race anybody cares about right now.

drunkencarp
Feb 14, 2012

WSAENOTSOCK posted:

It got cancelled because Hulu has a contract for the streaming rights and post-AT&T takeover, anything Warnermedia can't put on HBO Max is getting the axe, because that's the only arms race anybody cares about right now.

Oh, that makes sense, I guess. I've been thinking, why this decision now? So, good to have an answer.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013





drunkencarp posted:

Oh, that makes sense, I guess. I've been thinking, why this decision now? So, good to have an answer.

According to Publick, they were told months ago that the axe had fallen. He just broke the news this week publicly.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
At least Disney tends to sometimes use its powers for good and keeps a show going as long as it's profitable even if it's not by that much. I've said that they seemed to have at least one ongoing action cartoon at a time even when they're hardly interested in it, I think because basically they want to keep the animators doing something; far easier to maintain talent doing stuff you don't care that much about than to get it all back together again when you do want to make a cartoon.

Was thinking how FOWL is presented as a foil to the previously established villains, Glomgold's villainous 'family' in particular, as being relatively competent and keeping their minions under control and eyes on the prize. Ma Beagle is probably the only one of the previous villains who isn't self-sabotaging with terrible priorities, ego issues and/or general incompetence, but her main weakness is that she's a bad parent; her Beagle Boys are capable at some tasks but overall incompetent, Big Time in particular being prone to screwing up her schemes because he wants approval and validation, and the others aren't good at coordinating without being micromanaged- because Ma Beagle just berates and abuses them rather than giving them encouragement, teaching them to do things right and praising them when they do. And so most of the Beagle Boys act out like abused children often do; both resenting her and desperately craving her approval.

It effectively makes her a counterpart to Scrooge's role with his family- while his flaws have been shown pretty harshly, he generally acts like a cheery, encouraging grandparent, willing to let the kids be kids, to understand them as individuals and encourage their particular talents and skills, while also also being willing to discipline them, set reasonable boundaries and back up their parental figures when necessary. And on the other hand, FOWL is demonstrated as having a more pragmatic approach to management; their agents are given a fair amount of autonomy and access to their resources, but the kind of shenanigans they're allowed to get up to are limited. Might be a contrast to Scrooge as an employer, given Steelbeak is set up as a counterpart to Launchpad, and possibly Black Heron to Gyro; Scrooge is happy to put up with eccentricity and occasional comical mishaps as long as they're loyal and hardworking.

paradoxGentleman
Dec 10, 2013

wheres the jester, I could do with some pointless nonsense right about now

Ghost Leviathan posted:

At least Disney tends to sometimes use its powers for good

Mhm. I know that you don't mean, like, good for humanity but like. Mhmmm. This makes my brainmeats tingle with the need to push up my glasses and go "ACKSHUALLY..."

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzzyk0os-QQ

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

paradoxGentleman posted:

Mhm. I know that you don't mean, like, good for humanity but like. Mhmmm. This makes my brainmeats tingle with the need to push up my glasses and go "ACKSHUALLY..."

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

It's duck day

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Oh shoot this show is airing again? Well that's a spot of light in these dark times.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Oh shoot this show is airing again? Well that's a spot of light in these dark times.

Yup, the new episode is out now in fact though I haven’t gotten around to watching it yet.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Out of curiosity, I know he’s shown up in the comics a lot but is this the first animated appearance of The Phantom Blot?

Not a bad episode to come back to though.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Larryb posted:

Out of curiosity, I know he’s shown up in the comics a lot but is this the first animated appearance of The Phantom Blot?

Not a bad episode to come back to though.

I think the Phantom Blot had an appearance or two back in the original DuckTales

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Ooh! Are we messing with Adora?



He was in House of Mouse I remember.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Definitely an interesting spin on an old classic character.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

drrockso20 posted:

I think the Phantom Blot had an appearance or two back in the original DuckTales

Yup, seems you’re right. He also apparently made some appearances in House of Mouse and Mickey Mouse Works

Also, Lena’s magical girl outfit was cool and it was nice to see Magica again.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Sep 22, 2020

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

drrockso20 posted:

I think the Phantom Blot had an appearance or two back in the original DuckTales

He's also in the Funso costume in the FOWL reveal at the end of Moonvasion, Part II.

Geo Fixer
Jan 10, 2012

"Freedom lies in being bold."
-Robert Frost

Senerio posted:

He was in House of Mouse I remember.

This is where I know him from.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
He was in Epic Mickey as well, though I dunno how much any depiction of the Phantom Blot has in common with any other.

It seems like this makes him FOWL's resident magic specialist, and I'd imagine he's developed the totally-not-Infinity-Gauntlet using their tech base and resources.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Seems like the Duckberg Avengers list is still growing.

Zutaten
May 8, 2007

What the shit.

So if Blot hates Magica, and works for FOWL, which hates Scrooge, are we going to get a Scrooge/Magica team up episode one day?

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

Zutaten posted:

So if Blot hates Magica, and works for FOWL, which hates Scrooge, are we going to get a Scrooge/Magica team up episode one day?

PLEASE let the Venture Bros. team write for Ducktales. :pray:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Blot does seem cast as a reflection of Scrooge's dislike of magic.

Actually might be a theme of FOWL reflecting Scrooge's assets and traits.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Ooh! Are we messing with Adora?



Also because I forgot to post it yesterday: Hell yes Lena episode.

Also I love that Scrooge basically called Lena "one of the good ones." Got a chuckle out of me.

Senerio fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Sep 22, 2020

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo
Just halfway through this one (have to go to work soon), but so far YESSSSSS!! Grrlpower team-up focused on Lena. Magica. And non-lucky Gladstone. Awesome.

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

Everyone posted:

Just halfway through this one (have to go to work soon), but so far YESSSSSS!! Grrlpower team-up focused on Lena. Magica. And non-lucky Gladstone. Awesome.
This is my favorite team, and I loved the episode. My only complaint is that it gets a bit awkward at times to see which of the other sites have the episode for sale first so I can watch it earlier.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013





I appreciate that Magica has sworn bloody vengeance on Webby multiple times over and yet can't be bothered to remember her fricking name. She really is just as much of an idiot as everyone else on this show.

Also her little hateful suburban mom knick nacks around her lair were just :discourse:

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013





Also Webby totally one-shotted Phantom Blot in the first five minutes by driving that battle axe through his head in the mansion. You can't convince me otherwise. Or she would have had Children's Cartoon physics not happened, thus mandating the Blot's survival. Under any other circumstances, he would be dead...

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

A battle axe with a kitty head where the pike usually goes. Gotta love Webby, Violet and Lena.

They kinda dropped the ball in letting Magica get her amulet back though.

Episode gets some extra credit because I didn't think I could despise Gladstone even more. Can they have Gyro repair the gauntlet and drain his luck again for an year? It'll do him a lot of good.


Interesting incarnation of the Phantom Blot, Italian comics make him one of Mickey's criminal nemeses, the brainy one; he usually has very little interactions with the ducks.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Omobono posted:

A battle axe with a kitty head where the pike usually goes. Gotta love Webby, Violet and Lena.

They kinda dropped the ball in letting Magica get her amulet back though.

Episode gets some extra credit because I didn't think I could despise Gladstone even more. Can they have Gyro repair the gauntlet and drain his luck again for an year? It'll do him a lot of good.


Interesting incarnation of the Phantom Blot, Italian comics make him one of Mickey's criminal nemeses, the brainy one; he usually has very little interactions with the ducks.

And I shouldn't have click the spoiler before finishing the episode, but screw it.

I think I'm okay with that part. The kids work well as capable, knowledgeable and fairly competent kids. If Lena can whip out magic superpowers any time she wants to, it kind of screws with the whole need for the kids to be resourceful. Plus this way maybe we get more Lena.

Meanwhile, figure this will set up a Scrooge/Magica team-up against the Phantom Blot and anything that brings Catherine Tate and David Tennant together is a pretty good thing.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Oh,no, that was just an in-universe observation, I've got no problems with that happening from a narrative perspective, I was just noting that in-universe they dropped the ball a little (in a tense situation with a lot of things going on).

Everyone posted:

If Lena can whip out magic superpowers any time she wants to, it kind of screws with the whole need for the kids to be resourceful.

I kinda disagree here? (watch the episode before this) Magic is powerful to be sure but it's not an instant win. Webby overpowered Magica at the end of season 1 purely on her grandma's training and rightful fury. Magic is Lena's resource.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.
Phantom Blot's new thing is really weird to me as a reader of european comics. Like he went from an extremely theatrical version of the Saw movies villain to... a morally justified witchhunter? I can dig that, I guess. Always thought of him to be the best villain in the comics and the only reason I didn't skip all Mickey Mouse ones.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

Everyone posted:

And non-lucky Gladstone. Awesome.

I was briefly expecting de-powered Gladstone to be outright unlucky. It was cool to have him be just normal instead - made his complaints way funnier.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013





Cockmaster posted:

I was briefly expecting de-powered Gladstone to be outright unlucky. It was cool to have him be just normal instead - made his complaints way funnier.

Yeah, it was just "Oh, you have no concept of what reality is like." ...Which could be said about a LOT of people on this show, now that I think about it, but it hits Gladstone turbo hard.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

goblin week posted:

Phantom Blot's new thing is really weird to me as a reader of european comics. Like he went from an extremely theatrical version of the Saw movies villain to... a morally justified witchhunter? I can dig that, I guess. Always thought of him to be the best villain in the comics and the only reason I didn't skip all Mickey Mouse ones.

He's been a bit all over the place depending, though I like the version where he does the Bond villain thing because he's a proud villain but he's also actually really squeamish about seeing people get hurt, so he never sticks around to watch.


nine-gear crow posted:

Yeah, it was just "Oh, you have no concept of what reality is like." ...Which could be said about a LOT of people on this show, now that I think about it, but it hits Gladstone turbo hard.

It's pretty much in line with the comics iirc, but cranked up even more the show that Gladstone's luck makes his life so easy every single skill of his has dwindled away to nothing.

Also, some karma; Magica's home is mostly furnished with the same brand of pizza boxes Scrooge was gorging himself on.

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Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?
"And not one gust of wind whimsically carried me!" is maybe the best line delivery PFT has ever given.

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