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Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014




For some reason, whenever I see Heather interacting with Raine or Zheng I imagine that Danger Zone is playing on blast in her head.

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Tzarnal
Dec 26, 2011



Omi no Kami posted:

For some reason, whenever I see Heather interacting with Raine or Zheng I imagine that Danger Zone is playing on blast in her head.

Heather is a simple girl with simple needs. She likes girls with abs, who are taller than her, give her hugs, terrify her, make her feel valid and understood and will commit horrific violence in her name. I find this personally very relatable.

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014




Tzarnal posted:

Heather is a simple girl with simple needs. She likes girls with abs, who are taller than her, give her hugs, terrify her, make her feel valid and understood and will commit horrific violence in her name. I find this personally very relatable.

My personal headcanon is that whenever we see a slice of life scene between disasters, unless otherwise specified Heather is reading one of those doofy self-help/X For Dummies books entitled So You're Dating A Sociopath.

Silynt
Sep 21, 2009


If anyone was wondering, He Who Fights With Monsters has just ended what the author calls Book 1 on his Patreon. He will be taking a break, that will include weekly posts (side chapters and an epilogue I think), set to resume August 3. The last chapter of book 1 is #258

As many have said, the story lost a lot of its comedy momentum once Jason became a full fledged adventurer, but I still enjoy the world and power system. Interested to see where the story goes from here, it ends on a bit of a cliffhanger.

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.


I'm not on the patreon, but it's interesting to hear the first book is ending soon. I don't know what is going on, but I hope they move to a smaller team. I don't mind if it's a little more serious and a little less wacky, but a lot of chapters feel like reading an after report of an mmo raid. The team combat is just too sprawling and impersonal.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Wittgen posted:

I'm not on the patreon, but it's interesting to hear the first book is ending soon. I don't know what is going on, but I hope they move to a smaller team. I don't mind if it's a little more serious and a little less wacky, but a lot of chapters feel like reading an after report of an mmo raid. The team combat is just too sprawling and impersonal.

I thought the fight scenes were solid throughout.

Admittedly, I checked out when the author added an author's note endorsing Sophie's coping mechanism of... punching people who are trying to help her.

Silynt
Sep 21, 2009


Yea, Sophie stays a stinkyhole for way too long after it should be clear that she isnít being played by Jason.

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014




Check yesterday or the day before's chapter if you want an example of what people are complaining about- the fight scenes pretty much read like MMO patch notes now.

I thought the first maybe 30-40 chapters were really good for a litRPG- decent concept and consistent enough execution for something the guy was obviously writing by the seat of his pants. I caught up later when a friend mentioned some stuff, though, and it really feels like it's gone downhill relative to the early chapters.

There's also some really weird storytelling choices that I struggle to explain, like how the guy spent forever setting up that thing where Jason got captured, horribly tortured, and traumatized, and then basically rushed through the aftermath in 1-2 chapters of "And then several months passed and he got better."

With the weird Sophie stuff honestly I think it's an anime thing in the author's head, but they don't actually know how to execute belligerent romantic tension on the page. (IMO it also doesn't help that Cassandra was way more interesting, and showing him in a mutually affectionate, mature relationship right before you saddle him with Fisto McGee is a bad look.)

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.


I'm honestly hoping that the Sophie situation ends with Jason rejecting her. There's been plenty decent setup that Sophie would be romantically interested in Jason, but I don't really see any reason to think he would reciprocate. Even if you ignore the awkward power dynamic from how they met and Sophie's history of physically abusing Jason, Sophie is extraordinarily inflexible in her thinking. That's just a terrible match. Jason is into naughty geniuses like Cassandra Mercer, and Sophie is not a genius. She's a stubborn, determined survivor. Admiration, sure. But romantic interest? I just don't see it.

Unfortunately, I do think the author is going to force it anyway. He doesn't seem to be doing any kind of self aware thing where he shows how lovely the violent tsundere poo poo is.

I did think there was some good follow up to the kidnapping. The scene where he gets triggered at the opera and Cassandra comforts him was solid, and I liked the group adventure counselling session. They just could have done a lot more, and they especially could have dramatized his recovery by making it the main point during a short arc following some random mission or other. It does end up feeling a little perfunctory overall.

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014




Wittgen posted:

I did think there was some good follow up to the kidnapping. The scene where he gets triggered at the opera and Cassandra comforts him was solid, and I liked the group adventure counselling session. They just could have done a lot more, and they especially could have dramatized his recovery by making it the main point during a short arc following some random mission or other. It does end up feeling a little perfunctory overall.

Yeah, to be fair the opera scene was great. I can also definitely see the argument for not dwelling on it, since a dude constantly being troubled and unhappy isn't particularly fun to read (I'm looking straight at WtC as I say that, sheesh). But the story really went out of its way to establish how awful the whole experience was, then the instant he escaped it turned on a dime and started driving away from any long-term ramifications or links to Jason's overall character arc as fast as it could.

And, like, if you're not going to actually do something with that whole beat, why even have it? (I'm assuming the answer, as it often is, is 'serials are super-duper hard to write on the fly, and you can't always or sometimes ever keep a tight narrative,' but it's still frustrating to see a good start take increasingly weird turns.)

Cinara
Jul 15, 2007


Omi no Kami posted:

Check yesterday or the day before's chapter if you want an example of what people are complaining about- the fight scenes pretty much read like MMO patch notes now.

Yea, I am likely going to drop it soon, the fights have been getting worse and worse. Some of the more combat heavy chapters have been upwards of 30% of the entire chapter being those dumb blue text boxes. I've read plenty of garbage litrpg stories and they still manage to have less MMO combat log than this does at times. With the whole adventuring team and the seeming direction the story is taking, it doesn't bode well for it going back to what drew me into it in the first place.

SerSpook
Feb 13, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Forge of Destiny: lol at Ling Qi literally taking Sun Liling's rank from her, admittedly Sun was probably busy with preparing for her trip

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006



Nap Ghost

SerSpook posted:

Forge of Destiny: lol at Ling Qi literally taking Sun Liling's rank from her, admittedly Sun was probably busy with preparing for her trip

I like the speculation that it's a deliberate gently caress you for Sun leaving in the middle of the war

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider



Have SV's RSS feeds been weird for anyone else recently? They seem to be delayed. By days.

Mulozon Empuri
Jan 23, 2006


The He Who Fights With Monsters guy is pulling in 12.000 USD a month...

The only serials I follow these days is Vainqueur and Worth the Candle. If socialism's taught me anything it's that those guys should be getting 50 percent of that paycheck.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA


Mulozon Empuri posted:

The He Who Fights With Monsters guy is pulling in 12.000 USD a month...

The only serials I follow these days is Vainqueur and Worth the Candle. If socialism's taught me anything it's that those guys should be getting 50 percent of that paycheck.

His game plan is great. 10 but to read 20 chapters ahead! But then youíre stuck at just reading one chapter per day anyway and youíre out 10 bux.

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014




Affi posted:

His game plan is great. 10 but to read 20 chapters ahead! But then youíre stuck at just reading one chapter per day anyway and youíre out 10 bux.

I think the game plan is what really confuses me with HWFWM. The first big chunk of chapters were great- he knew what he was writing (trashy litRPG in an overcrowded space with weirdo esoteric conventions), struck a nice compromise of original stuff and expected tropes, and had a really fun hook in the form of "Australia Man portal fantasy with jokes." Admittedly humor is super-duper tough to keep up over time and the aggressively satirical, over-the-top personality Jason projected in the early chapters couldn't be maintained forever without flattening his character arc and making him seem like too much of a weird, shallow trope. But I really don't see how the author got from "Funny guy in a fantasy world does satire" to "Sad tortured soul hurts people and breaks things as he and his buddies make the numbers go up."

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

I feel like satire is hard to make work over the long term. Arrogant Young Master struggled with this too. Initially it was really funny, parodying Xianxia and LitRPG's simultaneously, but the later chapters felt less and less like a parody, and more like it was just Xianxia. Possibly that's why the chapters cut out.

Sampatrick
Sep 26, 2012


I've been enjoying Wildbows new web serial a bunch compared to Ward so hopefully that keeps up

GreyjoyBastard
Mar 28, 2010


Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.





Sampatrick posted:

I've been enjoying Wildbows new web serial a bunch compared to Ward so hopefully that keeps up

it's tentatively Better Than Twig

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!


e: oops wrong thread

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I TRUST JOE BIDEN AND THE DEMS


I'm catching up with Pith, and the third main character was recently fully introduced. They're really cool. I just stopped reading at a huge cliff-hanger (when Hira tells Ana about Wes deceiving her).

My one extremely minor "complaint" about the powers in the setting is that Wes's paper projection seems ridiculously strong for something used by a clever teenager that isn't even some special vocation. I think the thing that makes it feel a little "over-powered" is that he can apparently use it remotely in a way similar to Taylor's bugs in Worm or something (where he can simultaneously accurately use it on multiple targets + sense what a person is doing and accurately target specific parts of their body even if they're in a different room). Other characters can defeat it, but doing so often requires prior planning or super high-tier projectors (like the Steel Violet folks). If fine control over many small objects is possible, it's easy to imagine how this could easily be exploited to be ludicrously powerful (like attaching poisoned needles or bombs to things and remotely piloting them into people en-masse. The most obvious counter to this would be "people taking over the things you're projecting," but the setting has already established that it's difficult to do so and that projecting into something makes it an uphill battle for anyone else to project into that same thing. Ana's powers are also very strong, but in a way that is more clearly explained and less powerful on its own (Ana is unusually talented at creating realistic illusions, but talented opponents are fairly well-versed at dealing with Whisper vocations and she's pretty much hosed if someone smart engages with her alone while knowing her abilities). Wes, on the other hand, is using what is apparently an ability that most projectors are technically capable of to almost successfully assassinate one of the most powerful people in their country - twice!

One other thing that confused me a bit is why Wes's reaction to finding out about Hira's circumstances was so much more sympathetic than Ana's. I guess part of it is that Wes didn't have much to gain from turning in Hira's bounty after reading the contents of the documents, but Ana didn't seem to have much to gain either aside from money (which she needs, but she hasn't shown a desire to do clearly unethical things for it before). I guess he might sympathize with the whole "awful parents who don't care about you at all" thing.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 21:40 on May 30, 2020

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.Z.
Jan 12, 2008






TWI Patreon 7.26 Scott Sterling

Misc. Thoughts:
- Wonder how many of the various plots are going to have closer ties by the end of book 7. Titan is a given, Doctor also seems really likely with Octavia finally isolating penicillin.
- With how Niers has been written, I have to wonder if Bearclaw and her gang are already dancing to Nier's tune.
- Between the introduction of the Queen of Pop group and the fact Lyonette's family has to be on the move, it feels like Terandria is going to start playing a bigger role in the plot for book 8. Or whatever the hell Rhir is doing happens and that drives book 8.
- The Balerosian reactions (and Chaldion's) to Niers showing up at the Inn is going to be hilarious.
- I demand the conversation between Teriarch and Erin about the engagement ring next chapter.

Wishful thinking:
- When Erin hits level 50 at the end of book 7 and she is gaining a spacial skill for the inn that makes it's name more literal. Significantly reducing the distances between the various Earth groups for plot purposes.
- When Maviola's last potion wears off and she passes into unconsciousness, she is hits level 50 and gains a one-time rebirth skill [Phoenix something or other] so she can pal around with Olesm more. Awkward conversations about age will follow.

.Z. fucked around with this message at 04:52 on May 31, 2020

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