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Plorkyeran posted:I tried to read the official translation of Kumoko and turns out that blastron's translation was the reason I enjoyed it and not the actual story. same tbh
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Ytlaya posted:(these are sort of general spoilers about the direction of the story that you probably shouldn't read, though you can probably read them after the first few arcs since they don't reference any specific plot events) I ended up liking the interludes and later events more because, while Kumoko has a brief period where she's weak and struggling at the beginning, she very quickly attains cheat abilities that are far more lucky and "broken" than anything the other classmates get* (which are more in line with what's "normal" for heroes in that setting). I frequently see people characterize the story as one where "everyone but Kumoko has it easy," but in reality Kumoko very quickly gains ridiculous cheat abilities within the space of like a single year that make her stronger than any of the other human characters you see during the interludes (she probably surpasses them within the first few weeks or something). IIRC the main reason she's completely broken is that she has Pride and her special nature lets her use it without drawbacks + the ability to use the split minds thing to a ridiculous extent, and those things just stack to the extent that she becomes unbeatable by nearly all characters in the setting. It's weird. Chapter 100, or the first set of demon war interludes, marks a real turning point in the story. Everything up to that was pretty interesting. Everything after it seems to be a lot worse. I think that's about where Blastron's translation ends too. I just got to the last Blastron chapter and I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to keep going. I don't think it's so much that she got any specific power that is ridiculous, so much as that the author seems to have gotten fatigued at this point. The fight with the dragon is far less interesting than her first fight with a freaking frog. Kumoko just suddenly gets all the powers, and the author stops telling us about them before they're used. The multiple minds thing is pretty cute. Gives her someone to talk to and helps showcase her rapidly accelerating mental breakdown. I think maybe part of the problem is that the author wanted to challenge themselves by taking away her spider threads with the middle strata fire environment, but ended up not rising to the challenge they set themselves. They even resort to giving the threads back temporarily in all of the essential fights. So far, none of the viewpoint humans have had to struggle for anything. The story even calls this out. It makes Kumoko comparatively more sympathetic, even though she seems to be trending towards full on villain. The story makes a big point of there not being any crafting skills. But there are magic items. So I'm really curious how magic items, like the appraisal gems, get made. Sampatrick posted:the worst part about blastron's translation is that it ends and the story becomes unreadable garbage So much of the charm was from blastron's skilled translation. Reading anything else is almost painful. LLSix fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Jun 22, 2020 04:25
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Blastron stopped translating right before the low point of the series. the middle strata stuff is boring, and there is a bunch of terrible human sideplot stuff. It picks up again after that, and even has the main character lose their litrpg abilities permanently
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Still slowly plowing through TWI, recently met Mrsha (and won't that be a barrel of laughs in a few chapters). The [Clown] Chapter was better than I remember, did pirateaba end up doing more of those?
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tithin posted:Still slowly plowing through TWI, recently met Mrsha (and won't that be a barrel of laughs in a few chapters). eventually
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Thanks for the kind words, everyone! I started translating it because I wanted people outside of the usual translated-WN-reading crowd to be able to get into it and I’m happy to have succeeded.IShallRiseAgain posted:Blastron stopped translating right before the low point of the series. the middle strata stuff is boring, and there is a bunch of terrible human sideplot stuff. It picks up again after that, and even has the main character lose their litrpg abilities permanently It was largely coincidental that I stopped there. That’s about when the official LN translations were announced. It just so happened that the story was in a low point, and although I wasn’t looking forward to slogging through until the MC broke into the underground bunker that controlled the world and used it to ascend to godhood and things started taking off again, I would have put it aside regardless to avoid stepping on the toes of the official release. blastron fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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LLSix posted:What are some good LitRpgs? I'm looking for the ones with stat boxes, character sheets and explicit skill levels. I am not looking for cultivation stories. I've read a lot of them and am looking for something a little bit different. If you like Threadbare you will probably like Cinnamon Bun. I personally feel that The New World and Randidly Ghosthound are classics of the genre.
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There was some good friend-making in the latest chapter of the daily grind.
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LLSix posted:So far, none of the viewpoint humans have had to struggle for anything. The story even calls this out. It makes Kumoko comparatively more sympathetic, even though she seems to be trending towards full on villain. I forget exactly how the WN is spread out in terms of arcs, but (I have no idea if these are spoilers for you because I forget what part of the "human-side" content corresponds to the part where she's in the lava area - is Shun still in school? if so, probably don't read, otherwise it's probably fine) the human characters only really have it easier during their upbringing, and they end up in a more vulnerable position as a result of not quickly ascending to immense power like Kumoko (or the oni and vampire, who also have the good fortune of ending up monster races). Basically, even though the story sort of attempts to make Kumoko seem more sympathetic, as a reader I come away with the complete opposite impression. The other characters are basically thrust into dealing with enemies far beyond their "power level" (largely due to being humans in a world where humans are much weaker than even mid-tier monsters). It doesn't help that I don't really like Kumoko's general personality and attitude (which is basically "a highly empowered anti-social character"). Actually, I think a lot of it comes down to disliking Kumoko's character and deeply disliking being stuck inside her head constantly.
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Ytlaya posted:I forget exactly how the WN is spread out in terms of arcs, but (I have no idea if these are spoilers for you because I forget what part of the "human-side" content corresponds to the part where she's in the lava area - is Shun still in school? if so, probably don't read, otherwise it's probably fine) the human characters only really have it easier during their upbringing, and they end up in a more vulnerable position as a result of not quickly ascending to immense power like Kumoko (or the oni and vampire, who also have the good fortune of ending up monster races). do you know the "twist" behind kumoko?
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I'm a third of the way into Cinnamon Bun over on royal road and it's adorable.
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I made a discord for discussing web novels but you can also talk about web serials https://discord.gg/RJfqep Emmideer fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Jun 26, 2020 |
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90s Cringe Rock posted:I'm a third of the way into Cinnamon Bun over on royal road and it's adorable. There's like 100 more chapters on the Patreon. I couldn't resist.
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Newest Katalepsis is pretty great. I'm a big fan of Heather becoming some kinda freaky Outside monster - transhumanism is Cool and Good.
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Here, at the end of these forums, my one regret is asking Flesnolk to post that copypasta on my behalf instead of doing it myself.
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I'm still looking into it, but I may have figured out what genre MDA is and it might be weird fiction which is a lot easier to say than eldritch horror sci-fi/dark fantasy a billion other things
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blastron posted:Thanks for the kind words, everyone! I started translating it because I wanted people outside of the usual translated-WN-reading crowd to be able to get into it and I’m happy to have succeeded. Then again I'm the sort of person who think xianxia and xuanhuan terminology like yuanying should have been changed to homunculus and qi should be translated as breath.
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I'm still looking into it, but I may have figured out what genre MDA is and it might be weird fiction its good OP
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The Shortest Path posted:Newest Katalepsis is pretty great. I'm a big fan of Heather becoming some kinda freaky Outside monster - transhumanism is Cool and Good. Agreed Katalepsis has been going strong the last few weeks. The Transhumanism seems to come with a lot of very real disabling headaches and bruises though. Now I'm not a particularly insightful reader. But I think the story might be trying to tell us that its actually Not Good.
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The Shortest Path posted:Newest Katalepsis is pretty great. I'm a big fan of Heather becoming some kinda freaky Outside monster - transhumanism is Cool and Good. Tzarnal posted:Agreed Katalepsis has been going strong the last few weeks. The Transhumanism seems to come with a lot of very real disabling headaches and bruises though. Now I'm not a particularly insightful reader. But I think the story might be trying to tell us that its actually Not Good. I'm absolutely not going to weigh in on this as paratext, but this is very interesting. Also I hope this little community manages to survive and/or transplant itself to wherever we all end up soon.
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That WN discord link expired quickly. I take it it's the same discord linked in the Japanese WN thread? Also, maybe both of those could just be their own channels in the TBB discord instead?
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SERIALsly disappointed by the actions of lowtax, SERIAL domestic abuser, owner of this WEBsite. TO BE FAIR, it might be salvageable if he BOWs out of the community. I don't think it's WILD to assume he might do it, but my UNDERSTANDing of him is a man who, in addition to being an abusive piece of poo poo, does not HAVE A VERY HIGH IQ.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Just putting up a reminder link for the Book Barn discord:
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bread and roses has a very underutilized web serial thread, if anyone wants to head over that way
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Anyone have suggestions for time loop stories (not time travel, I usually hate time travel)? I've read Mother of Learning and enjoyed it, and just finished what exists of The Menocht Loop on Royal Road which is much higher quality than the normal RR fare (admittedly a very very low bar). Non webfiction I've read The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August.
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nightchild12 posted:Anyone have suggestions for time loop stories (not time travel, I usually hate time travel)? I've read Mother of Learning and enjoyed it, and just finished what exists of The Menocht Loop on Royal Road which is much higher quality than the normal RR fare (admittedly a very very low bar). Non webfiction I've read The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August. its a web comic, and it involves quite a bit of time travel as well as loops, but http://all-night-laundry.com is quite good!
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nightchild12 posted:Anyone have suggestions for time loop stories (not time travel, I usually hate time travel)? I've read Mother of Learning and enjoyed it, and just finished what exists of The Menocht Loop on Royal Road which is much higher quality than the normal RR fare (admittedly a very very low bar). Non webfiction I've read The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August. The Wheel of Time (lol). I'm struggling to come up with serious suggestions. I've seen them used as like a single book or episode or background, but they're not often the central focus. Russian Doll was pretty good, but it's a Netflix series, and I wouldn't have wanted it to be any longer. Google spat this out for me: https://litreactor.com/columns/watch-out-for-that-first-step-its-a-doozy-the-top-ten-time-loop-stories
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A big flaming stink posted:do you know the "twist" behind kumoko? If you mean that she was actually a spider, yeah. Kumoko as a character makes sense, but that doesn't mean I enjoy having her be a PoV character.
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Loved PracGuide today (Tantamount). Especially Yannu. So refreshing to have an honor/warrior culture in a fantasy work that doesn't feel like they take that cultural focus to a ridiculous extreme, and don't care about anything else.
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Katalepsis 8.4 lmao heather literally t-posed to assert dominance
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nightchild12 posted:just finished what exists of The Menocht Loop on Royal Road which is much higher quality than the normal RR fare (admittedly a very very low bar). Sorry no loop suggestions but read up to current on Menocht Loop and enjoyed it. Thanks for the recommendation! Although almost wish I found it later with more chapters. At least book 1 is finished so that was a satisfying conclusion.
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TWI 7.31 Patreon I attempted to make the following comment on the chapter twice but it was moderated both times, so I will post here instead Attempting to post again because apparently my first post didn’t make the cut (which isn’t a great sign). As always, I enjoyed reading this chapter. That said, from my (admittedly narrow) leftist American perspective, the timing and themes of this chapter are a little poorly thought out. People around the world are currently protesting against the use of state sanctioned violence against the disenfranchised, so a chapter that seems to glorify, or at the very least deem necessary, said violence leaves a sour taste in my mouth. That Erin, the ultimate peacekeeper herself would become the mouthpiece for violently suppressing legitimately enraged protesters is truly upsetting. Obviously you can craft a story where riots turn violent and murderous, but 1) that is so totally divorced from the reality of our current uprising that it’s borderline offensive and 2) is that really a story anyone needs to read right now? I hope this comment makes it through. Have a nice day! Anyways, those are my thoughts. Frankly, a disappointing chapter.
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I got modded for posting an "antifa supersoldier" comment in a worm fanfic thread where Taylor literally spends the first quarter of the story doing nothing but kill Nazis. The rest of the internet is garbage, which just makes the forums dying that much sadder.
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Silynt posted:TWI 7.31 Patreon just fyi, pirateaba responded to your initial comment on the discord: pirateaba posted:Just so we're clear: there is no way this chapter is NOT topical. But also, there were riots after frauds ended. It's a logical conclusion that a bunch of [Lords] would try that regardless of what might happening in the world. e: also she said that she was asleep so she couldnt approve your second comment A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jun 29, 2020 |
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The latest TWI chapter is a little bizarre in that it seems to have stepped directly into recent events without a message. The previous Paetron version was contrived but had a feel good ending that avoided the issue. I do think that Erin's response is very typical of her. Attempt to stop everyone by distracting them and if that doesn't work then resort to non lethal violence and somehow in all of this manage to meet people that help her in the long run. She abhors killing, but has very few issues with violence which is likely exacerbated by both the world being extremely violent and the magic of healing potions.
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So the public chapter brings made me realize where the gently caress Excel is for those peeps with laptops. Why is the UN group doing bookkeeping manually? Erin didn't get her hands on a laptop until recently, so that's one excuse there. And it's not like the ubiquitous iPhones all these earthers have don't come with Numbers.
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I caught up with HWFWM over the weekend, and holy poo poo that dude's out of ideas. The first chunk is really strong, it feels like it starts teetering on the brink a bit when he makes his team and starts doing adventurer stuff, but holy crap does it feel like quality falls off a cliff around the time Sophia joins the team. I finished V1 because I liked the early stuff, but I think if I'd picked it up around the time all the builder crap started happening I never would've gotten through more than a chapter or two.
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HWFWM? Oh, no, the cool litrpg isekai readers are on Cinnamon Bun now.
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