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Big Blood Bovine
Apr 24, 2010

Финское качество!
I was born and raised in Finland but now live in Łódż, Poland. I actually did my Erasmus exchange studies here, so it was like coming home.

+ Compared to 60+k town in Finland that I used to live near of, Łódż is a sprawling metropolis. Restaurants, museums, actual public transportation, oh my!
+ Great location in the center of Poland. Want to travel but are opposed to flying because you are a climate change fearing hippie like me! No problem, take a night bus to Berlin, Prague, Budapest Bratislava, Vienna or Western Ukraine.
+ Moderate prices, at least for foreigners with good salaries like me.
+ No hordes of obnoxious turists.
+ Much less smog than in Cracow or Southern Poland in general.

- The city is not Polish Detroit (I think you need to go to Silesia for that), but compared to Warsaw and Cracow it can be pretty rough. Łódż never fully recovered from the collapse of socialism and there are abandoned or abandoned-looking buildings on almost every major street and the overall atmosphere can be gloomy, especially during winter. I personally don't mind too much, especially since a lot is being renovated.
- No real winter, at least by Finnish standards. I don't have a problem with low temperatures, but I wan't snow to go with it, not this gloomy rain and darkness.

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MrOzzy
Nov 17, 2017
I live in Belgium in a small town 20km away from Antwerp

The good:

Affordable housing
Very good education
Housing is the only major expense most of us have
Nearly free health care, above a maximum amount it's 100% free
A good football team
A lot of available jobs
One of the most progressive laws in the world (active euthanesia, LGBT rights, ...) - see https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/right-die-belgium-inside-worlds-liberal-euthanasia-laws
A lot of culture around
Food is good and cheap
Good looking women
A lot of time off from work (30 working days a year as a strict minimum, but a lot of us have more - I have 42, yay!)
French fries!! Chocolate!! Beer, good beer and really good beer!


The bad:

The weather is poo poo and gray about 20% of the time
Traffic can be tough around major cities
Large patches of nature can be far far away!

To conclude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrl6r0fsT1U

MrOzzy fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Nov 21, 2017

IronClaymore
Jun 30, 2010

by Athanatos
I originally came from an inner suburb of Melbourne, Australia. Called Richmond (no relation at all to the USA version). Once an original industrial area, with factories and tanneries dumping sludge into the river, and tiny roads fit barely for horse carts, and cramped houses with families of twelve children (maybe four of which survived to adulthood), it earned a bad reputation. A reputation and corresponding cheap land prices that some people saw the value of. Because it gentrified. More than anywhere else. It was partway through the process when I was little.

Now it's mostly rich people territory, with land going easily well above a million $AU [$733k US] a quarter acre (just the land, most of the time the house is a hindrance, they want to build units and apartments on it). But a lot of its old roots remain. The strangely appealing grungy sides, near the old train station or the heritage factories.

The north of the suburb is the most interesting though. It's like a little Vietnam. With some of China and Korea, and Thai and Malaysia too. Once you go there you would not even think of shopping anywhere else for most good things! Every sort of spice, every normal and exotic vegetable, dried and fresh beans and pulses, all kinds of rice. Every second store seems to sell Pho. Terrible as the Vietnam War was, and despite all the lives needlessly lost, this place is the silver lining.

Also it is apparently Melbourne's heroin hotspot, despite dedicated police patrols. But I prefer the sheer amount of chilli you can buy there (I have never seen so much chilli).

porkswordonboard
Aug 27, 2007
You should get that looked at

Portland, Maine* aka "the other Portland" chiming in here (WE WERE FIRST GOD drat IT)




Portland is an amazing place and I'd be happy to live the rest my life in or near it. It's got a small town feel with little city vibes, a place where out and about you'll see people you know but there's always something new going on. It's in a state of flux right now which is interesting to be a part of as the city fights to keep its charm in the advent of an expanding populace. Some parts are brick buildings and cobblestones, some potholed roads and grungy old houses beginning to disappear in the condo craze. There are plenty of trees and several awesome parks, the air is fresh and clean if you excuse low tide, and the streets mainly free of garbage. It has its well-known characters (the Whistler, the Shredder, RIP Shaky Bob), odd quirks (the Valentines' Day Bandits), and secret spots (The Tripping Tree). I'm a fan!

PROS:

Food: It's amazing. Everything from seafood (Maine lobster, yadda yadda) to fine dining, Vietnamese, Indian, gastropub, even some really great Mexican. The Portland metro area has, according to TripAdvisor, 389 restaurants. It is nationally recognized as a hub for great, super fresh foods - all the best places have reputations with local farms that may deliver multiple times a week, so if local /organic is your thing then you'll be in heaven. Seafood of course is fresh as can be.

Alcohol: Beer is unbelievable. We have the most per-capita breweries and bars in the country! Local beer and microbreweries are around every corner. Cocktails are very tasty and widespread too. I cannot stress enough how easy it is to walk in anywhere and get at list of delicious beers, many on tap.

Surroundings: It's seriously gorgeous. The ocean is everywhere and you won't have trouble finding a beach with elbow room if you know what you're doing, even at the height of tourist season. Amazingly diverse beaches as well, from rocky to sandy to completely remote paradises.There are well over 100 islands in Casco Bay, with ferry service to at least 6 and water taxis as well. Some are posh rich people summer homes (Peaks Island), fisherman's suburbs (Cliff Island), uninhabited sites of WWII fortresses (Jewel Island), and many, many more. One is called "Junk of Pork" and is named after the shape of that bit of bacon you find in cans of beans. It is mainly covered in bird poo poo. Peaks has a festival every year where artists fill an old fortress with their work called The Sacred and Profane, which I always miss but hear is amazing. You could spend years exploring the islands alone. Lakes are 30mins away if that's more your thing, and it's not just like one or two but many "lakes regions" each with their own charm. Mountains too, with great winter sports or hiking in summer. Acadia National Park is a few hours north, which you should look up as words don't do it justice. The best part is that if you want to be alone in the wilderness, you have a million opportunities. There's a reason our nickname is "Vacationland."

Music: I'm not much of a concert-goer but we have some awesome up-and-coming venues like Thompson's Point that host some pretty big name bands. I saw Modest Mouse at the State Theater this summer and that was a lot of fun, we had Mumford and Sons (not a fan, but eh) a couple years ago. Boston is a fairly easy drive, train or bus too - only 2 hours away, if you're looking for a bigger-city vibe.

Art: There's an amazing art scene in Portland with a huge number of galleries and museums of all stripes. We even have a Cryptozoology museum!

Events: Portland has a First Friday Art Walk that centers in the Old Port (cobblestones, tourist traps) and up through the arts district and takes place every first Friday of the month. Galleries, performances, free wine, etc. There are some festivals during the summer as well but I tend to avoid them as I'm not into crowds, but Old Port Fest (boozy block party) and the Greek festival come to mind.

EH/you decide:

Here's how I explain housing, since it's all going to seem awesome or ridiculous depending on where YOU are: We pay $1300/mo for a <700 sq ft house that includes two bedrooms, hardwood floors, new windows, a sloped but partially usable backyard that includes a fire pit, a 1-car garage (2 cars fit in driveway), washer/dryer, and can have cats. Only utilities included are trash/recycling and water, we pay the rest. We are 5-10 minutes from Portland proper, I can get to both my jobs in about 15 minutes. My friend lives in Portland itself but not the safest neighborhood, and pays $1000 for a 1 bedroom with hardwood and no parking, but can also have cats. Her heat is included, which is great, as winter makes it quite expensive. I'd love to hear other people's perspectives on this!

It should be noted that rent is rising like crazy, and 6 years ago I paid $1000 for a HUGE three bedroom/hardwood/cats/1 parking spot after a year, but in a bad neighborhood (ask me about hiding under a car from a dude on ?PCP? !!!) and impossible to heat.

Traffic: depends on the time of day. Sometimes a 10 minute drive will take 35+ at rush hour. The highways aren't built for the burgeoning city and struggle to cope.

Politics: Portland is an amazingly liberal city that's very LGBTQ+ friendly. As a queer woman I have never had a serious issue and it's not something I worry about. However, if you leave the Greater Portland area, things drastically drop off into weirdness. This is especially true up north, where I've heard natives say seeing the confederate flag isn't out of the question. We still outnumber them, though, and it seems things are gradually changing for the better from my perspective. Ethnically, it's majority white, but the Somali, Middle Eastern, and Vietnamese communities are thriving and expanding, just...very slowly, and may be viewed with some suspicion. I am caucasian so I don't feel I can speak comprehensively on this matter, but when I lived in a bad neighborhood and something weird would happen, my landlords would always ask, without fail "Were they black??" (meaning Somali). Nope, it was always, bar one notable instance, a skinny white dude.

CONS:

Winter: Do you like winter sports of any sort? You'll be in heaven! Are you okay with sitting and reading a book/watching tv/vidja games a whole lot? You'll be fine! Otherwise, it can be soul-crushing. Snow removal is a constant struggle and Portland doesn't really seem to know where to put it all. It is a VERY difficult place to navigate when there is a lot of snow, both walking and parking. If you don't have a parking spot and the city puts down a parking ban, have fun finding somewhere to put your loving car. It's just generally depressing, too, and lasts about 5 months of the year, although with climate change this seems to have hosed everything up and we're getting these weird indian summers I'm certainly not complaining about.

Drugs: Opioids are a huge problem here. I think that's the same for a lot of places so I won't elaborate, but it sucks and resources are not adequate. This goes the same for...

Homeless people: despite being an unbelievably punishing city in the winter, Portland struggles with a significant homeless problem. There are several major intersections that you can always rely on to have panhandlers. It's not getting better.

Tourist season: Tourists are the lifeblood of this city but they make travel and parking infuriating. loving cruise ships.

Public transportation: It is a joke, buses come like once an hour in some areas. BUSY areas. Lyft and Uber are everywhere, though. It's a catch-22 that you probably need a car in Portland but there's very limited parking.


Happy to take any questions, Portland is pretty sweet. If you need a job come up, seriously everyone is desperate to hire.


* I technically live in South Portland, but work in Portland, could walk there if I wanted, and lived there in the past. The area I am in is considered more or less the same thing.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
that was a good revival post.

I want to do an east coast trip one day starting up in Maine and heading south and you pretty much sold me on Portland.

Sits on Pilster
Oct 12, 2004
I like to wear bras on my ass while I masturbate?
I feel like I read "we have the most breweries per capita" about a lot of places.

What sectors are big and hiring in Portland, Maine?

porkswordonboard
Aug 27, 2007
You should get that looked at

Sits on Pilster posted:

I feel like I read "we have the most breweries per capita" about a lot of places.

What sectors are big and hiring in Portland, Maine?

Looks like we are both a little right - according to Forbes, we have the most *micro* breweries per capita, but other cities take top spots in bars, etc. - I'm sure there are many factors and categories. Didn't mean to be incorrect, thanks for mentioning that!

Hiring sectors, to my knowledge, include healthcare, food industry, research, law enforcement, education, retail, weed, beer, loving everything. Maine is the seventh (according to google) "oldest" state in the country, meaning our workforce is retiring at a rate our younguns can't keep up with. Maine is seriously desperate for some new blood. From what I heard on NPR recently we're on track to have 1 person of retirement age for every 2 workers in the future, which is not sustaining. I'm speaking a little generally because I'm employed, so I'm not entirely sure if these statistics are as relevant to Portland as they are to the state as a whole. Maine Medical Center is located in the heart of Portland and includes a children's hospital which is apparently in the top 25 in the country (THANKS AGAIN GOOGLE!) and as they are set to expand you can bet they're hungry for people.


N. Senada posted:

that was a good revival post.

I want to do an east coast trip one day starting up in Maine and heading south and you pretty much sold me on Portland.

Hey thanks! I rarely effortpost and was sure no one would care. Maine isn't all Stephen King and lobster. May I suggest Fort Williams in Cape Elizabeth (probably a 15-25 minute drive from parts of the city) as a day trip? The Portland Head Light (below) is there, admission is free, there's a small rocky beach I swim at because I may be insane and WWII fort stuff everywhere. Beautiful gardens and amazing views.


I tried to find a good representative picture of it that wasn't obviously photoshopped to look like a pixar movie, it's lovely enough as-is. Amazing sunsets, though. If the apocalypse happened you can bet your rear end I would live in that loving lighthouse.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
lighthouses are the best phallic buildings.

literally shoot out a white beam all over everything fuckin lol

PizzaProwler
Nov 4, 2009

Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
Pillowfights with Dominican mothers.
That was a kick-rear end post. I don't know much about Maine other than lobster and Stephen King. Seems like a rad place.

I'd be tempted to move there, but where I live (Fort Wayne, IN) has such a low cost of living that it would be insane for a tight-wad like me to move. I'll definitely have to visit sometime though.

ceebee
Feb 12, 2004
Where is there an amazing art community/town/city? I used to live in LA and one thing I enjoyed was the fact that there was always a musical or artistic event going on. I'm in Boston currently and it has an art scene but not nearly as contemporary/active/diverse as LA was. Ideally cheaper than LA though ahaha

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
DC had a lot of stuff going on when I visited there. I'd like to go back. That place is expensive as hell for some stuff tho, but you can see a lot of great stuff for free/cheap if you're just looking for something and not one thing.

Cincinnati has a good punk and metal scene from what I remember, but then you're in Cincinnati so :shrug:

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR
Miami if you can drive and also don't mind traffic. Because the traffic there will drive you to bath salts and face eating.

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.
Two beacons of hope in the south are Chattanooga Tennessee and Huntsville Alabama.

Chattanooga is forward thinking environmentally and in the foothills of the Appalachia. I don't live there so I can't get too specific about it, but it's a place I wouldn't mind living.

Huntsville is becoming an amazing place to live. It's the home of the Redstone Arsenal and brings people from all over the world for highly technical jobs for government contractors and NASA. I took for granted how diverse the area had become until I joined the adult soccer league and started making connections. The cost of living is relatively low and very low compared to most large metro areas with a wide spread of available housing throughout the area. There is an entertainment culture emerging based around the craft beer scene and geek culture. Huntsville seems very much out of place compared to most of Alabama. Huntsville is still very much a low population metropolitan area. It's located on the Tennessee River and located close to a lot of wildlife refuge and park areas.

Racism still exists, but it seems to be the same institutionalized racism located everywhere in the country and not the threatening racism the South is famous for.

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
dear something awful dotcom im currently in the dense part of baltimore maryland and came here because i go to mica and im probably dropping out/graduating soon. ill probably be here for a decent amount of time because i have a lot of career opportunities in the area
pros:
-baltimore is a somewhat cheap city to live in first and foremost.
-it's a pretty nice place to live if you want to be part of a scene involving music/art/and or activism.
-it's super cheap to take the one hour commute marc train to dc to see friends and go to punk shows and go to protests if that's a big part of your life like it is for me.
-the food is pretty fuckign awesome since i like cheap seafood

cons:
-baltimore has a single light rail line going north and south and the bus system is pretty average-to-bad depending on when you're trying to use it. i guess it's about as bad as any medium sized american city
-there was going to be an east-west red line built but the governor larry hogan shut it down because he hates black people and wanted to punish them since they had the gumption to protest after the pigs killed freddy gray.
-also if you're a racist and black panhandlers at night scare or if you dont like walking through areas with lots of abandoned rowhouses you're going to have issues living here
-it sucks that a lot of the genuine areas of the city are being gentrified by rich white college students (as opposed to me who is a poor white college student)

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
Everyone I've met from Batlimore speaks highly of Baltimore which is not a thing true of every city.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

I went to Baltimore once as a kid and there was a German U-boat in the harbor, I dont know if it is still there, but imo that should be listed among the city's "pros" if it is, because it was cool

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

N. Senada posted:

Everyone I've met from Batlimore speaks highly of Baltimore which is not a thing true of every city.

everyone ive known from baltimore has said they loved it too but man it seems like a lot of people from the greater maryland-dc-va area have a huge hate-boner for baltimore (hint: it's always dogwhistle poo poo)

Earwicker posted:

I went to Baltimore once as a kid and there was a German U-boat in the harbor, I dont know if it is still there, but imo that should be listed among the city's "pros" if it is, because it was cool

are you talking about the torsk? its an american sub you can take tours of

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

porkswordonboard posted:

Portland, Maine* aka "the other Portland" chiming in here (WE WERE FIRST GOD drat IT)

Fun fact: The Oregon Portland was named after your Portland in a coin toss. It was almost the other Boston.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Temperatures as a con is pretty funny. The south is hot, the north is cold, if you don't like either move somewhere in between you goony goons.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

yes its somehow funny that people would talk about climate when discussing whether they like living in a particular location how "goony"

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

"I moved to Florida and holy crap it's hot" is pretty funny yeah.

N. Senada
May 17, 2011

My kidneys are busted
I live in Jamaica and can’t stop sweating but the bananas are real tasty. I am torn

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.
You temperature wizards are so smart and funny.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

NYC's weather is beautiful from late September until early November and absolute poo poo at all other times. but once you get used to living there it becomes hard to leave. i am working on it.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

Applebees Appetizer posted:

"I moved to Florida and holy crap it's hot" is pretty funny yeah.

Well, "I moved to Florida and holy crap I am in shorts in December this rocks" is also good to know.

Some places in this country have 100f degree summers and snowstorm winters. So the temperature range is good to know.

Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jan 27, 2018

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Suspect Bucket posted:

Well, "I moved to Florida and holy crap I am in shorts in December this rocks" is also good to know.

Some places in this country have 100f degree summers and snowstorm winters. So the temperature range is good to know.

I understand that, what's silly is listing temperatures as a "con" as if you weren't aware of the climate before you moved there.

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.
And I thought a I was a pedantic know-it-all.

ausgezeichnet
Sep 18, 2005

In my country this is definitely not offensive!
Nap Ghost

Suspect Bucket posted:

Well, "I moved to Florida and holy crap I am in shorts in December this rocks" is also good to know.

Some places in this country have 100f degree summers and snowstorm winters. So the temperature range is good to know.

I moved from suburban Chicago to SWFL a couple of years ago and I loving LOVE the weather down here. Chicago has temperature ranges from -10°F to 100+ with ungodly humidity in the summer. The highest ever recorded temperature in Naples is 98° and Marco Island's temps are moderated from that due to gulf water running through all the canals like a heat sink. I rarely see humidity above 60%, too.

It got down into the 40's at night last week and it was a novelty to wear a sweater while I was out and about (still wore shorts and flip flops - I have a no-sock rule in place). This also gave the society ladies in Naples the opportunity to get their furs out of storage for a quick display on 5th Avenue.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Applebees Appetizer posted:

I understand that, what's silly is listing temperatures as a "con" as if you weren't aware of the climate before you moved there.

Right, because people never do things when the perceived positives outweigh the perceived negatives.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Applebees Appetizer posted:

I understand that, what's silly is listing temperatures as a "con" as if you weren't aware of the climate before you moved there.

most people move to a place because of things like work or school or family and not specifically because of the weather but its still something they have to put up with, and so they mention it as a pro or con. what is silly about that?

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Earwicker posted:

most people move to a place because of things like work or school or family and not specifically because of the weather but its still something they have to put up with, and so they mention it as a pro or con. what is silly about that?

It's silly in a sense that the thread seems (to me) to be an informative thread for people that may be curious about other areas of the US or other countries to live in, so why say the water is wet, tell me something I wouldn't know about or may find interesting. Cons to me would be no public transportation in a city, bad infrastructure, lovely parks, high crime rate, traffic, etc. not things that are obvious like "Minneapolis is cold" everyone knows that already. Weather is also highly subjective unlike the cons I listed.

I was joking initially about goons being goony, but if they want to complain about the weather go right ahead :)

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jan 31, 2018

Dennis McClaren
Mar 28, 2007

"Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!

ceebee posted:

Where is there an amazing art community/town/city? I used to live in LA and one thing I enjoyed was the fact that there was always a musical or artistic event going on. I'm in Boston currently and it has an art scene but not nearly as contemporary/active/diverse as LA was. Ideally cheaper than LA though ahaha

You're looking for Savannah, Georgia. Population around 100k, but 1/4-1/2 of that is all related to the art school - Savannah College of Art and Design. I graduated in 2008, and continued to live there for years after.

You cant turn 90 degrees without laying eyes on creativity all around you. From the historic settings, perfect laid back weather, gorgeous beaches, and NON-STOP activity in the local art scene - you cant go wrong. One of my favorite places on earth.

CHEAP AS poo poo to live here. The only negative I could even think of... sometimes it rains a lot?

Bollock Monkey
Jan 21, 2007

The Almighty

Applebees Appetizer posted:

It's silly in a sense that the thread seems (to me) to be an informative thread for people that may be curious about other areas of the US or other countries to live in, so why say the water is wet, tell me something I wouldn't know about or may find interesting. Cons to me would be no public transportation in a city, bad infrastructure, lovely parks, high crime rate, traffic, etc. not things that are obvious like "Minneapolis is cold" everyone knows that already. Weather is also highly subjective unlike the cons I listed.

I was joking initially about goons being goony, but if they want to complain about the weather go right ahead :)

I am British and knowing about the weather is a Very Important Factor in improving my understanding and opinion of a place. And I had no idea that Minneapolis is cold because I don't know US geography.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Dennis McClaren posted:

You're looking for Savannah, Georgia. Population around 100k, but 1/4-1/2 of that is all related to the art school - Savannah College of Art and Design. I graduated in 2008, and continued to live there for years after.

SCAD is, uh, a bit troublesome

http://www.myajc.com/news/special-reports/how-scad-sells-dream/VVfRSVilHliyrTe9LAd5hN/

living in atlanta i'm biased of course. savannah is a beautiful city

Bollock Monkey posted:

I am British and knowing about the weather is a Very Important Factor in improving my understanding and opinion of a place. And I had no idea that Minneapolis is cold because I don't know US geography.

there's really nowhere in the us with a climate like england except the pacific northwest (generally cool and rainy year round). southern california is warm and dry. everywhere else either has rough winters or rough summers, your choice

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

boner confessor posted:

SCAD is, uh, a bit troublesome

http://www.myajc.com/news/special-reports/how-scad-sells-dream/VVfRSVilHliyrTe9LAd5hN/

living in atlanta i'm biased of course. savannah is a beautiful city


there's really nowhere in the us with a climate like england except the pacific northwest (generally cool and rainy year round). southern california is warm and dry. everywhere else either has rough winters or rough summers, your choice

yeah im an art student who knows some people who go/went to scad and that article is very accurate.

ceebee
Feb 12, 2004
I actually lived in Savannah for 4 months when I went to SCAD. In that time I was jumped riding my bike home from dorms, my car was totalled by 4 kids who stole another car and ran a red light, and the financial aid office completely hosed my loans and disbursement up. I have a bit of a bad taste in my mouth with Savannah after that, this was around 2010 and I can't imagine it's much better. The amount of racism and racial/income disparity there is kinda sad, which is a shame cause it's a beautiful city. Also it loving stinks in Savannah, like Las Vegas level of stink because of paper factory or whatever and the gross humidity.

Dennis McClaren
Mar 28, 2007

"Hey, don't put capture a guy!"
...Well I've got to put something!
Wow that's a lot of horror stories!

All I can say thats factual is me and my friends all went there from 2005-2008. With the exception of myself, they are all outstanding talents in their fields, and well compensated for their art. They are living their dream, and pursuing their passions in their respective fields. Friends in Film, Fibers, Illustration, Industrial Design, Photography, all of them are doing amazing in their work.

Maybe things got lovely after 2008? But I can say we only experienced really great times there. Some of my fondest memories in life!

But yeah no doubt there are a lot of crappy parts of town too where you can get mugged or jumped. But thats true of any urban city that has a school in it. You need to travel with other people, be aware of your surroundings, and all the other things you learn when living in a place like that to stay out of the way.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

boner confessor posted:

there's really nowhere in the us with a climate like england except the pacific northwest (generally cool and rainy year round). southern california is warm and dry. everywhere else either has rough winters or rough summers, your choice

Move to beautiful Chicago, where we have both! And barely anything in between!

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
savannah seems like a good place to live if you're well off and white, not so much if you aren't. great if you're a tourist, it's beautiful and there's plenty to do

but i spent a july in garden city doing research on port truckers so, not the best part of the savannah metro

ceebee posted:

Also it loving stinks in Savannah, like Las Vegas level of stink because of paper factory or whatever and the gross humidity.

yeah, it's a city in a swamp surrounded by paper mills. it's not as bad as hog farms but still. there's a ton of lumber/paper/pulp going on near the georgia coast because pretty much all of south georgia is tree farms

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Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


I live about 40 minutes from Greenville, SC. Was raised in a small town called Fair Play, home to about 230 people and a Mennonite congregation.

The town I currently live in has about 30k people in it. There's some really hosed up areas (median household income is about $35k) but you've got a lot of gated communities propped up by people who work in Automotive in Greenville but don't want to be near the city.

My grandparents live on the mill hill about 15 minutes from where I live. If you don't know what a mill hill is, it's basically a bunch of small houses built within walking distance of a mill. When the mill closed down, the property values all went to poo poo and a bunch of meth heads now live in the houses. I think after my grandparents pass they'll be the last house on the mill hill that's not occupied by drug addicts.

I live in a pretty good area, but if you go down the road about half a mile there's a lot of low rent apartments that have drugs running in and out. I hear cop cars going in and out of that part of the neighborhood pretty frequently.

I really do like living in the South, however I'm a white male so I'm basically a privileged class compared to minorities. I don't really see any overt racism going on, but there's definitely that undercurrent. I think a lot of that "us .vs them" mentality happens because there's not a lot of population mixing. When I was in high school, there was only 9 black students in a population of around 1000. I'd like to say that things are better, but it's going to take years for the prevailing prejudice to start to wear down.

On the positive side of things, the weather is generally really good (unless it's in the middle of summer, gently caress that). I'm also about 45 minutes away from the mountains, which are really beautiful during the fall/spring seasons.

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