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 David Simon (The Wire, Treme, Show Me a Hero) is teaming up with HBO once again with his new series The Deuce, a retro series that goes back to New York's emerging pornography scene in the 1970's. The cast is chock full of talent, with some regulars from Simon's previous shows, other HBO alumni, and James Franco.  Premieres September 10th, 2017Edit: Or apparently you can watch it now on HBO On Demand if you're in the States, however it does not appear to be on TMN Go for Canadians   Trailer 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7YMlL8x8GE Trailer 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dvpkyRx_ak Main Character Bios (shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia):  James Franco as Vincent Martino and Frankie Martino, twin brothers operating out of Times Square who become fronts for the Mob.  Maggie Gyllenhaal as Eileen "Candy" Merrell, a Times Square sex worker with an entrepreneurial spirit who is drawn into the emerging pornography industry.  Gbenga Akinnagbe (The Wire) as Larry Brown, an intense and demanding pimp who physically intimidates his stable of women but also has moments that betray a conflicted, underlying humanity.  Chris Bauer (The Wire) as Bobby Dwyer, Vincent and Frankie Martino’s brother-in-law, a construction foreman and family man whose eyes are opened by their adventures along the Deuce.  Gary Carr as C.C.  Chris Coy as Paul Hendrickson, a kindred spirit to Vincent Martino and a veteran bartender who pursues his own personal and professional ambitions in the emerging gay, lesbian and transsexual community of ’70s New York.  Dominique Fishback (Show Me a Hero) as Darlene, a young, sweet-natured prostitute who’s trying to survive on the street while under the thumb of a volatile, violent pimp.  Lawrence Gilliard Jr. (The Wire) as Chris Alston, an NYPD patrolman.  Margarita Levieva as Abigail "Abby" Parker, an adventurous college student who strikes up a relationship with Vincent.  Emily Meade (The Leftovers) as Lori  Mustafa Shakir as Big Mike, a man of few words, a physically imposing loner who becomes Vincent’s primary muscle and fiercely devoted friend.  Thaddeus Street as Black Franki, a Vietnam veteran, gun seller turned Enforcer  Daniel Sauli as Tommy Longo, a low level mobster, usually seen collecting from Franki following a big win  Anwan Glover as Leon, diner owner, cook, Woman Respector Recurring Character Bios: Daniel Sauli as Tommy Longo David Krumholtz as Harvey Wasserman Don Harvey as Danny Flanagan Jamie Neumann as Ashley Ralph Macchio as Officer Haddix, a jaded vice cop patrolling Times Square in the corrupt police force of 1970s New York. Zoe Kazan as Andrea, Vincent's wife James Ciccone as Carmine Patriccia, a mob underboss who works out of a Mulberry Street street social club and is one big rung above Rudy Pipilo. Garry Pastore as Matthew Ianniello, the Genovese Family crime boss who ran the Times Square porn industry during the 1970s and 1980s. Finn Robbins as Adam, son of Maggie Gyllenhaal's character, Eileen "Candy" Merrell. [b]Aaron Dean Eisenberg as Todd Lang, a classically trained, but starving actor, Todd has had a few successes. To make ends meet, he starts acting in a few porn films, and quickly finds a home. For now. Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 23, 2017 |
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I first read about this show when the people behind the "The Rialto Report" blog were asked to be consultants on it, to help the producers get the 70s Times Square atmosphere authentic. NSFW - THIS IS A BLOG ABOUT VINTAGE AMERICAN HARD CORE PORNOGRAPHY http://www.therialtoreport.com/2017/06/03/the-deuce-2/ It could be really good. There are definitely a lot of crazy stories that could be told set in that era. Like a super-sleazy "Mad Men".
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Aug 29, 2017 23:27
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First episode is already out on HBO On Demand. It's really good. Those of us in The Wire thread were quite pleased.
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Aug 29, 2017 23:37
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Watched the first episode earlier and really enjoyed it. I think it has a chance to be bigger than Simon's other shows - it's just as intelligent as those, but less dry and more entertaining. Gyllenhaal is excellent while Franco is a blast.
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Aug 30, 2017 00:31
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That's great to hear, since the only piece I've read about it says that it's good but doesn't go into much detail (and left me questioning if the author actually saw it).
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Aug 30, 2017 00:40
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Aug 30, 2017 02:40
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Pimps, hos and James Francos  First episode was amazing, the recreation of the city/period is just excellent.
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Deuce posted:What They made a show about your posting! Can anyone who has watched the first episode suggest a witty thread title for me to request? Those two words look so weird
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Aug 30, 2017 12:39
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Professor Shark posted:They made a show about your posting! The Deuce: Full Of Shitposts
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Professor Shark posted:They made a show about your posting! You could probably pull something out of that conversation about Nixon being a pimp.
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Aug 30, 2017 13:02
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Some potential quotes for thread titles: "Do not gently caress with President Reggie Love." "I know a few Vietnam words. That poo poo's like a cousin to Chinese." "Don't you want to be a part of something bigger, huh?" "I'm a sporting man. Ain't no sport in this." "His girls got daddy issues." "Don't we all?" "Objecto-who?"
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I liked it and will keep watching. I usually hate Gyllenhaal but thought she did a great job. But I thought James Franco was kind of awful. He's just too smug to play a hapless mook, and it oozes out of him no matter how hard he tries. It's almost a shame that Bobby Cannavale got toxxed by Vinyl, because he'd be goddamned perfect for Franco's role.
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Man, this show is depressing as gently caress, but casting D'Angelo Barskdale as the earnestly optimistic beat cop was a ray of light in this greasy rear end 70s backdrop. That shoe shine scene was great. I can't wait to watch the rest.
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Repeating what I said in general tv chat regarding the ending: "that ending  "
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I call for Spoiler Rules until the episode airs Edit: Holy crap, they filmed the pilot in Oct 2015?! Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 23:34
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Why didn't anyone tell me David Simon and James Franco teamed up on an HBO series?
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It was good, but it only gave hints at where the plot may go. 70s NYC was depressing as gently caress apparently. Soundtrack is fantastic, hope they can keep it up. So many Wire alum.
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Bird in a Blender posted:It was good, but it only gave hints at where the plot may go. 70s NYC was depressing as gently caress apparently. Soundtrack is fantastic, hope they can keep it up. So man Wire alum. Yeah it wasn't bad but it didn't hook me after the first episode. I'll keep watching because of Dave Simon but it woulda been nice to see a sign of what the stakes are gonna be. Was droopy tits really handling that dick or you think it was a prop? This was really the only question I had after it was over.
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I have a feeling all of the dicks are props, but I'm not about to do some deep investigation into it.
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So is this gonna be like a good version of Vinyl?
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Martman posted:So is this gonna be like a good version of Vinyl? So far it's a little more subtle and inherently more interesting. There's still some eye-rolling stuff (everyone acting like Franco's character invented the idea that sex sells) but it's obviously being handled by the people who did The Wire and Treme.
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Wait people will pay money for sex?
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Bird in a Blender posted:I have a feeling all of the dicks are props, but I'm not about to do some deep investigation into it. I figured that all of the "handled" dicks are props. Honestly, I'd say the only real dick in the episode was the fat guy's.
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The shoeshine scene was great. Looking forward to the next ep
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David Simon is back, baby. I loved everything about this goddamn episode. The Deuce is shaping up to be the follow-up that Treme should have been. 70's New York was a chaotic, filthy, but very human place to reside in, and the pains to bring this experience to the viewer are subtle and elegant. From the ambient (terrifying) noise of a sleeping city, to the sunrise or the show-don't-tell method of introducing the various institutions, this is masterwork television inside and out. The hardest thing about this show is that episode 2 comes out in like two weeks.
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I liked Treme, but never finished it. The characters were great, but something wasn't clicking. I hope this does!
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Treme didn't stick with me as much as the wire did. I liked the chef plot, there were naked chicks with the real estate huckster, and the trumpet jazz guy was neat when he wasn't arguing with Lester. Lester as the Native American marching band man kinda lost me, as did John goodmans arc. Stoner band man was not my poo poo at all. The show felt slow when it was the parts I cared less about
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Sep 3, 2017 15:49
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I really want to go back and watch the entire series.
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1970s New York is a disgusting mess.
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Treme suffered in seasons 3 and the short season 4 because I don't think they knew where to take the characters. Seasons 1 and 2 were really good though.
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withak posted:1970s New York is a disgusting mess. 60s-80s NYC is like my favorite loving era of aesthetic in movies, rivaled only by pre-handover Hong Kong action movies and maybe 80s LA (think Repo-Man, Terminator). Stuff like The French Connection, Midnight Cowboy, Taxi Driver, etc aren't just great movies on their own they're elevated by the environment. They've done a good job on this show of emulating it, that's for sure. Like you could catch some airborne STD just from walking down the street. Can't wait to see more of it.
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Milo and POTUS posted:60s-80s NYC is like my favorite loving era of aesthetic in movies, rivaled only by pre-handover Hong Kong action movies and maybe 80s LA (think Repo-Man, Terminator). Stuff like The French Connection, Midnight Cowboy, Taxi Driver, etc aren't just great movies on their own they're elevated by the environment. They've done a good job on this show of emulating it, that's for sure. Like you could catch some airborne STD just from walking down the street. Can't wait to see more of it. I know exactly what you mean. One of these days I need to sit down and write something about what I think about the gentrification that has happened in the last thirty years; I don't think the cities are worse because of gentrification but they are different. If I was given a monkey's paw and I knew that my wish to make NYC affordable again meant the return of the grime and crime that is seen in those films, I would still be very very tempted to make that wish.That is coming from a person who has lived their entire life in small-towns and suburbs and plots their escape to a real city. side_burned fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Sep 4, 2017 |
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At the risk of being the white dude from La La Land, I think the idea with Treme was to make it like jazz - kinda chaotic and frenzied but when it works it's unbelievably good and even when it doesn't it's bizarrely compelling. It fit nicely with the weird disconnect of living in Post-Katrina New Orleans where everybody is just trying to make sense of an entirely nonsensical situation. So you have these varied, interesting (and often frustrating) characters living their lives, doing their thing etc but no overarching story or narrative holding it all together. I found it fascinating to watch on an episode by episode basis, but it never really grabbed me the same way that other stuff Simon has done did, because it lacked that sense of focus (which Show Me A Hero had in spades). Absolutely agree with others about 70s NYC being an amazing aesthetic to explore - but then Treme had a fantastic visual and aural "look" to it too with all the issues listed above, so I'm hoping that they can keep the ensemble cast thing going without getting lost along the way.
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shadok posted:I first read about this show when the people behind the "The Rialto Report" blog were asked to be consultants on it, to help the producers get the 70s Times Square atmosphere authentic. The Rialto Report just released a new podcast about The Deuce, quote:On today’s Rialto Report, we speak to three people involved in the making of ‘The Deuce’: NSFW - THIS IS A BLOG ABOUT VINTAGE AMERICAN HARD CORE PORNOGRAPHY http://www.therialtoreport.com/2017/09/03/the-deuce-3/
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I don't know how many other posters are waiting for the first episode to premiere, but I wouldn't be doing my part as a Kevin Evangelist if I didn't suggest watching The Leftovers while you wait!
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Watched the pilot tonight, loved it Much like these ladies of the night are whores for money, I am a whore for HBO prestige period dramas
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The Something Awful Forums> The Finer Arts> The TVIV> The Duece: "Hey, you want the rest of the pizza?" Paying a hooker to watch a movie you've already seen is the gooniest thing I could ever think of. I love you, David Simon.
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I usually hate James Franco but I have to admit I love him in this. He does kind of fail, as one poster pointed out, at playing a hapless loser kind of guy, but he excels at playing a smarmy gambling rear end in a top hat. I still don't care for Maggie Gyllenhaal, though. I found the show compelling enough to keep watching for now, at least. I'm not sure where exactly it's going but I hope it segues into porn where the girls are ostensibly treated better than the pimps treat them and making more money.
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Nobody does men sitting outside in cold weather talking better than David Simon.
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