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Ultimate Shrek Fan: May 2, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/08/...nscious-victim/

Salt Lake Tribune posted:

A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.

Footage from University Hospital and officer body cameras shows Detective Jeff Payne and nurse Alex Wubbels in a standoff over whether the policeman should be allowed to get a blood sample from a patient who had been injured in a July 26 collision in northern Utah that left another driver dead.

Wubbels says blood cannot be taken from an unconscious patient unless the patient is under arrest, unless there is a warrant allowing the draw or unless the patient consents. The detective acknowledges in the footage that none of those requirements is in place, but he insists that he has the authority to obtain the draw, according to the footage.

At one point, Payne threatens to take Wubbels to jail if he doesn�t get the sample, and he accuses her of interfering with a criminal case.
�I either go away with blood in vials or body in tow,� Payne says.

After Wubbels consults with several hospital officials and repeats the policy, Payne tells her she is under arrest and grabs her, pulling her arms behind her back and handcuffing her. The footage shows the detective dragging Wubbels out of the hospital and putting her inside a patrol car as she screams, �Help! Help! Somebody help me! Stop! Stop! I did nothing wrong!�

A University of Utah police officer and Department of Public Safety officers, who provide security for the hospital, were present at time of the arrest and did not intervene.
As he stands in the hospital parking lot after the arrest, Payne says to another officer that he wonders how this event will affect an off-duty job transporting patients for an ambulance company.
�I�ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,� Payne says.

Parts of the footage were shown Thursday at a news conference at the office of Karra Porter, a Salt Lake City attorney representing Wubbels.
Salt Lake police Sgt. Brandon Shearer said the department started an internal investigation, which is ongoing, in response to the incident.
Payne was suspended from the department�s blood-draw program � where officers are trained as phlebotomists so they can get blood samples � but he remains on duty with the Police Department, Shearer said. The department also has held training for the officers in the program as a result of the incident, he said.

In a written report, Payne said he was responding to a request from Logan police to get the blood sample, to determine whether the patient had illicit substances in his system at the time of the crash. Payne explained the �exigent circumstances and implied consent law� to Wubbels, but, according to his report, she said �her policies won�t allow me to obtain the blood sample without a warrant.�
Payne � who says he wanted the blood sample to protect the patient, not punish him � said he was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report.

Tracy said in his report that he spoke on the phone with Wubbels and told her he believed that they had implied consent to get the sample, but she cut him off and said she would not allow the draw without a warrant. He then went to the hospital and tried to tell the nurse why she was in custody, but �she appeared to not want to hear my explanation,� Tracy wrote.

Porter, however, said �implied consent� has not been the law in Utah since 2007, and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2016 that the Constitution permits warrantless breath tests in drunken-driving arrests, but not warrantless blood tests. She stressed that the patient was always considered the victim in the case and never was suspected of wrongdoing.

No claim or lawsuit has been filed, Porter said, but she has had discussions with Salt Lake City police and she believes the department will educate its officers.
Wubbels said she has heard anecdotally of other health care workers being bullied and harassed by police, and that these videos prove that there is a problem.
�I can�t sit on this video and not attempt to speak out both to re-educate and inform,� she said. Police agencies �need to be having conversations about what is appropriate intervention.�
Wubbels, who was not charged, said she has watched the footage four or five times and said, �It hurts to relive it.�

She never said �no� when Payne asked to take a blood sample; she merely explained the blood draw policy to him, according to Wubbels, who also said she was trying to keep her patient safe and do things the right way.
Porter and Wubbels declined to release information about the patient, but Payne�s report identifies him as 43-year-old William Gray, a reserve officer in the Rigby, Idaho, Police Department, who suffered burns during a July 26 crash in Cache County.
Gray is a truck driver when he is not serving as a reserve police officer, according to the Idaho State Journal.

At about 2 p.m. on July 26, Gray was driving a semi north on State Road 89/91 near Sardine Canyon when a man fleeing from the Utah Highway Patrol crashed a pickup truck into him head-on, according to Logan police, who investigated the collision.
The crash caused an explosion and fire, Logan police have said. Gray was on fire when he exited the semi. The driver of the pickup truck, Marcos Torres, 26, died at the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQ1-LQOkns

Gonna follow the law and make the cop's job hard? That's prison time, bitch

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murex: Apr 30, 2009; by Lowtax

If you had to decide between either having nurses or cops in your society, which would you pick?

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:15

McNutty: Feb 25, 2007; Forum cheer squad sez: "Cheer the fuck up your avatar is depressing you left-wing commie ass-smoker. For fuck's sake. Jessus."

He was just defending himself. From being disrespected by a woman. Which is too great an emotional burden to bear.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:16

Ultimate Shrek Fan: May 2, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

friendo posted:

If you had to decide between either having nurses or cops in your society, which would you pick?

That''s a tough choice. I'm gonna go with the psychopaths that have guns and can arrest you for whatever and not get in trouble for it. Yep.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:17

Over There: Jun 28, 2013; by Azathoth

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/08/...nscious-victim/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQ1-LQOkns

Gonna follow the law and make the cop's job hard? That's prison time, bitch

It sounded like a simple mistake until you watch the video. Who the gently caress acts like that? :psyduck:

I would sue the poo poo out of the city.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:20

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

I lust for cop death

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:21

Ultimate Shrek Fan: May 2, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

Over There posted:

It sounded like a simple mistake until you watch the video. Who the gently caress acts like that? I would sue the poo poo out of the city.

A real piece of poo poo

"As he stands in the hospital parking lot after the arrest, Payne says to another officer that he wonders how this event will affect an off-duty job transporting patients for an ambulance company.
�I�ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,� Payne says."

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:22

Over There: Jun 28, 2013; by Azathoth

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

A real piece of poo poo

"As he stands in the hospital parking lot after the arrest, Payne says to another officer that he wonders how this event will affect an off-duty job transporting patients for an ambulance company.
�I�ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,� Payne says."

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:22

GBS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!: Sep 1, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

Kill all cops

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:23

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

I would do an immediate 180 on antifa and support them if they started going after the police

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:24

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

That man will be promoted before the end of the year.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:25

scott zoloft: Dec 7, 2015; yeah same

let's give these guys urban tanks and assault weaponry.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:26

FrankeeFrankFrank: Apr 21, 2005; Say word son.

This is obviously fake... the cop and the nurse have the same skin color.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:27

Tolkien minority: Feb 14, 2012

lmao at her juts letting herself get arrested. i would of taken out my concealed carry deagle adn no scoped that songof a bitch cop

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:27

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

If I was prez is sign an executive order that for every scalp of a cop, ex-cop, trainee cop, you'd get like a thousand bucks. Two thousand bucks for the scalps of they're immediate families

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# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:28

Punk da Bundo: Dec 29, 2006; by FactsAreUseless

Ride The Gravitron posted:

I would do an immediate 180 on antifa and support them if they started going after the police

*throws piss at cop *
*gets beaten so badly every other antifa dude with me runs away *

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:28

toucan dan: May 18, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

this lady is not a hero. she was just doing her job, like the cop. what happens if the patient is dead or ends up dying? how can a dead person give consent? what a stupid policy.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:30

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

toucan dan posted:

this lady is not a hero. she was just doing her job, like the cop. what happens if the patient is dead or ends up dying? how can a dead person give consent? what a stupid policy.

If the patient is dead you wait for the autopsy.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:31

Big Beef City: Aug 15, 2013

Cop gay so what

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:31

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

toucan dan posted:

this lady is not a hero. she was just doing her job, like the cop. what happens if the patient is dead or ends up dying? how can a dead person give consent? what a stupid policy.

Better dead than touched by a cop

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:31

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Big Beef City posted:

Cop dead, ha ha

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:32

GBS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!: Sep 1, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

Ride The Gravitron posted:

If I was prez is sign an executive order that for every scalp of a cop, ex-cop, trainee cop, you'd get like a thousand bucks. Two thousand bucks for the scalps of they're immediate families

you, 2020

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:32

Over There: Jun 28, 2013; by Azathoth

GBS ROCKS!!!!!!!!! posted:

you, 2020

dont say that

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:32

scott zoloft: Dec 7, 2015; yeah same

Tolkien minority posted:

lmao at her juts letting herself get arrested. i would of taken out my concealed carry deagle adn no scoped that songof a bitch cop

holy... i jus nut o_O

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:32

GBS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!: Sep 1, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

toucan dan posted:

this lady is not a hero. she was just doing her job, like the cop. what happens if the patient is dead or ends up dying? how can a dead person give consent? what a stupid policy.

yes the cop was doing his job by illegally arresting a nurse because she wouldn't submit to his will

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:33

Ultimate Shrek Fan: May 2, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

GBS ROCKS!!!!!!!!! posted:

yes the cop was doing his job by illegally arresting a nurse because she wouldn't submit to his will

But you see, that hero cop was trying to extrajudicially seize the unconscious criminal scum's blood and the terrorist nurse was getting in the way of justice. Nothing illegal about that arrest at all!!!!!

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:37

Punk da Bundo: Dec 29, 2006; by FactsAreUseless

it puts the blood in a vial or you sit in jail awhile. !!!!!!!!!!!

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:37

GBS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!: Sep 1, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

But you see, that hero cop was trying to extrajudicially seize the unconscious criminal scum's blood and the terrorist nurse was getting in the way of justice. Nothing illegal about that arrest at all!!!!!

kill all cops

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:37

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygly4T5K-uk

Kill all cops

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:38

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FU-Fso8O8E
Kill all cops

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:40

mom and dad fight a lot: Sep 21, 2006; If you count them all, this sentence has exactly seventy-two characters.

I wanna be a cop.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:41

The Walrus: Jul 9, 2002; by Fluffdaddy

Wait, he was doing this to protect the patent, not incriminate him? That doesn't make very much sen

quote:

Porter and Wubbels declined to release information about the patient, but Payne�s report identifies him as 43-year-old William Gray, a reserve officer in the Rigby, Idaho, Police Department, who suffered burns during a July 26 crash in Cache County.

lmao gently caress 5-0

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:42

Maldoror: Oct 5, 2003; by R. Guyovich; Nap Ghost

Read about this elsewhere. This was after a police chase, the patient is not the suspect but another driver not involved in the chase whot got nailed in a collision resulting from the chase. Cops are likely worried about a lawsuit from the driver and at best want to check his blood for drugs and alcohol to lessen his chances of a big settlement; at worst they might gently caress with the samples to make it look like he was on drugs or alcohol for the same purpose.

Maldoror has issued a correction as of 16:47 on Sep 1, 2017

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:43

FogHelmut: Dec 18, 2003

The patient also is an off duty cop from Idaho.

efb

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:44

The Walrus: Jul 9, 2002; by Fluffdaddy

Maldoror posted:

Read about this elsewhere. This was after a police chase, the patient is not the suspect but another driver mpt involved in the chase that got nailed in a collision resulting from the chase. Cops are likely worried about a lawsuit from the driver and at best want to check his blood for drugs and alcohol to lessen his chances of a big settlement; at worst they might gently caress with the samples to make it look like he was on drugs or alcohol for the same purpose.

no it's because he was a cop and they wanted to beat up a nurse to make sure he wouldn't get in trouble

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:44

Hector Beerlioz: Jun 16, 2010; aw, hec

One time there was a disgruntled former cop who put a bomb on a bus and set it to blow up if it went below 50mph

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:44

Xenophanes: Nov 8, 2015

NSA honeypot thread.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:46

Enfield: May 30, 2011; by Nyc_Tattoo

im outraged and its not suprising the op is outraged as well. i bet our readers here are pissed off and i cant wait to share my anger with them when they post acab as if they were in an 80s oi band and this will go on for 300 pages until someone says cops are good and our necks snap immediately to his post, in unison, and well all call him a retarded piece of poo poo whos stupid as hell and is gay. also were all white it workers tjere i saved you the trouble of reading the thread go outside and do something productive you stupid rear end in a top hat

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:49

Cyber Dog: Feb 22, 2008

Ride The Gravitron posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygly4T5K-uk

Kill all cops

im going to arrest you for.....resisting arrest

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:50

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Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

Enfield posted:

im outraged and its not suprising the op is outraged as well. i bet our readers here are pissed off and i cant wait to share my anger with them when they post acab as if they were in an 80s oi band and this will go on for 300 pages until someone says cops are good and our necks snap immediately to his post, in unison, and well all call him a retarded piece of poo poo whos stupid as hell and is gay. also were all white it workers tjere i saved you the trouble of reading the thread go outside and do something productive you stupid rear end in a top hat

Calling someone gay as a pejorative is wrong and nobody ITT would do such a thing.

# ? Sep 1, 2017 16:51

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