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Oh good a new thread in which I can melt down.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2017 22:20 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:35 |
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Gigi Galli posted:Just so this doesn't get lost in the shuffle Did he actually say this? I need to figure out how much I need to lol
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2017 22:53 |
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Ornstein put together a long explanation of what happened to Arsenal this summer. It's best read while humming the Benny Hill theme. https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/904618820073132032 I'm going to go melt down some more and I will post when Ive gathered myself.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2017 18:51 |
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I would have been over the moon to sell Ozil for actual money.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2017 19:16 |
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How do you gently caress that up?
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2017 11:20 |
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BigPaddy posted:Not really been paying close attention for years but I remember Wenger won a ton of stuff when he first came along and then it seemed to dry up for a decade. Did he just lose his edge? Priced out of the market? The game changed to where his style wasn't viable anymore? He basically hasn't changed the way his team plays in the past ten years, and it's caught up to him. Ornstein has been saying a lot about what happened this summer, and it all seems like the club is just terribly managed. As far as I can tell, the club just isn't good at negotiating contracts or transfer fees. There's a bizarre disconnect between the players, the manager, and the club such that no one seems to have a clue what the other is doing. The scouting team is bad. It all sounds very disorganized and like there's no plan for what to do going forward. Also, Wengy didn't figure out that his central midfield was poo poo until the Liverpool game. Oh, and the board pulled the plug on a transfer for Kante because agents' fees were too high. Moral Highground trophy.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2017 14:57 |
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fat gay nonce posted:Arsenal are bad now because Dein left and took any kind of football business skill with him, god knows who negotiates now, probably Wenger fiddling with his zip. It goes from top to bottom. Wenger hasn't motivated his team in years, has completely lost the dressing room, and has been identifying lovely transfer targets who become deadweight or want to leave a year after their sold. There's plenty of blame to go around. E: In hindsight, Arsenal's transfers over the last 3/4 years are pretty hilarious. 13/14 Sanogo (Bad; gone) Ozil (Leaving on a free) Flamini (retired tbf) 14/15 Debuchy (Hasn't played in years) Alexis (Leaving on a free) Ospina (Couldn't sell him) Chambers (Couldn't sell him) Welbeck (Mediocre) Bielik (Still young) Gabriel (Gone) 15/16 Cech (Good signing!) Elneny (Couldn't sell him) 16/17 Xhaka (Okay) Asano (Dead?) Holding (Good signing!) Perez (Gone) So, basically Arsenal have spent a ton of money to sign Cech and Holding over four years. blue footed boobie fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Sep 6, 2017 |
# ¿ Sep 6, 2017 23:48 |
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elbkaida posted:Why would you complain about Özil or Sanchez being bad signings when they singlehandedly kept Arsenal in the champions league spots for years? Because you don't expect your record signings to leave on a free in their prime.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 00:06 |
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wicka posted:If you're an obvious #10 you probably don't expect to be played on the wing in a team where you are twice as talented as anyone else, so Not sure what you're getting at here. Arsenal have control over the players they sign and where they are played. I'm not criticizing either Ozil or Sanchez. I'm just saying that the fact that they want to leave is part of the clusterfuck that has been Arsenal's transfer policy for the last five years.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 00:23 |
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:Ozil gets unfair criticism imo He's a perfectly fine player. He just plays one position and one position only. If your team isn't built to accommodate a no 10, he isn't particularly useful. Arsenal haven't been set up to play with a real 10 since Cazorla died. It's not Ozil's fault; it's just a symptom of Arsenal's lack of planning and poor transfers.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 02:46 |
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wicka posted:None of what's going on with live sports TV rights is "real," it's just the death throes of TV networks. They're overpaying out the rear end for sports because sports are the only appointment viewing that still exists. It's quite literally the only programming keeping their business model alive. It's why Sky can pay more and more for the Premier League when their Premier League ratings keep going down. The idea that this could continue long-term is just laughable. Yeah it's worth noting that ESPN is already having trouble managing the cost of paying for the rights to live sports broadcasts. I suspect the move will eventually be for the leagues to launch their own streaming service, but who knows.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 18:31 |
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Vegetable posted:How can TV rights be paying out so much yet Arsenal can't find the money to make signings? That Ornstein tweet can't be right. I'm more inclined to think Arsene is just pennypinching. I kind of buy it. Arsenal have an absolutely huge squad, and all of the bad players are on high wages. I could see them needing to clear players out before they signed more bad players on high wages.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2017 20:09 |
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vyelkin posted:lmao Wenger This seems completely fair tbh.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2017 03:29 |
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Poor palace. They went through all the relegation battle specialists, and now they're going to go down with Hodgson.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 13:27 |
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Brony Car posted:From what I've read, Crystal Palace's board wanted to see an evolution to a more pleasing style and underestimated how risky that transition might be and overestimated how easily they could pull it off without expensive transfers. The board liked De Boer due to him having a good record with Ajax (which is kind of misleading) and ignored his struggles at Inter. Hodgson was past it when he ducked out of club football 5 years ago. They're going down.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 17:06 |
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Us Chelsea fans have agreed to switch to "He scores with precision, he hates Zionism" lol
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 19:10 |
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Jose posted:bournemouth are losing lol Howe?
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2017 21:30 |
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PirateBob posted:Why do you do this? Please don't discourage seriousposting. He is a race traitor.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2017 15:04 |
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kcer posted:how poo poo of a person do you have to be for a football chant to have an effect on how you might view a person or race I mean, it would depend on the song, but this is a legitimately funny one about a man having a 24 inch penis.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 17:06 |
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oliwan posted:imo black people shouldnt be so sensitive and just enjoy the songs and jokes like the rest of us tbf this seems to be white people getting offended on behalf of black people
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 17:20 |
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sassassin posted:The Kick It Out people aren't white afaik. Didn't know that. I was just going on the pasty white authors of articles about it.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 19:48 |
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2017 21:21 |
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Iirc the only reason Aquilani was signed was because Roma let Liverpool pay like £2m a year for like 5 years. It seemed like Liverpool were decently funded up until those last couple years when the wheels fell off. Before that he had some bit hits and some misses, like any other manager.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 18:15 |
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CyberPingu posted:Mind sourcing that. Never actually heard about that and would be kinda interested to read about it http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...at-Anfield.html It was real bad there for a while. I always felt sorry for Hodgson during that period. He got so much poo poo for his signings, but he was asked to sign star players with a budget of like £5m
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 18:45 |
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c0burn posted:this is a bad opinion It isn't.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 21:39 |
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Bea Nanner posted:people like Konchesky were never good enough and were never going to be That's not really the point, though. He was trying to make signings when Liverpool had basically no cash on hand. Konchesky was a bad signing for Liverpool, but so was basically anyone else he was going to sign for a couple million pounds.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2017 23:24 |
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:How does Alonso not quite perform at Liverpool then end up playing great for Madrid? Obviously it wasn't him He was playing really well at the time. It was just monumentally stupid of Rafa. Shrapnig posted:I think Alonso asked to leave and Liverpool fans tried to fabricate some sort of story to rationalize it. I seem to remember him asking to leave after The whole Barry thing.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2017 02:29 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:35 |
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:Didn't Xabi skip a game because his wife had a baby and Rafa got pissed at him? I seemed to remember something like that having a big impact on their relationship I thought that was Torres? Was it both?
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2017 17:07 |