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I watched an episode of Mebius and it isn't grabbing me yet. I'm not gonna give up on it but I don't think I'm ready to make it a priority.
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I'm not convinced Gentoku is part of Faust. That seems like a pretty obvious red herring.
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Sep 5, 2017 02:52
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Burkion posted:So what wasn't clicking with you on it yet, TFR? I dunno. It was alright I just didn't feel excited. I have a lot more in my backlog than that so it just didn't grab me enough to shoot up the list.
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Sep 5, 2017 02:58
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I don't really think changing names is territory subs should get into. That feels more like dub territory. But I respect the thought process that goes into it, as far as Gaim is related, at least.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:17
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I never said ya had to be 100 % faithful. I just believe, personally, 95 % of the time you should leave names and other proper nouns alone.
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Sep 5, 2017 20:30
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I just find it kind of arbitrary sometimes. I mean, you wouldn't translate Excalibur as "Awesomeblade", would you?
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Sep 5, 2017 20:39
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Burkion posted:That's the thing I think there's a difference between different versions that existed based on local retellings of the story hundreds of years ago and translations made in a more global society centuries later where different aspects of culture, society, and history are more broadly disseminated, but that's just me. For Gridon I can understand the necessity of preserving the joke, at least. ZenMasterBullshit posted:It's not arbitrary as much as it's all juts played by ear because not every thing needs to be considered so closely when it comes to 'Do we translate it directly, localize it so the intent of the phrase or name is intact and as obvious in this language as it is in the original, or just leave it untranslated?' Turns out it's a topic requiring more nuance and deft handedness than just saying 'gently caress it leave all proper nouns the same.' Arbitrary means there's no real thought going behind it which is untrue of most translations. I guess what bothers me most is when it's something taken from or which draws from history or mythology. Like, I think 90 % of the people who are interested in tokusatsu and Japanese media in general are going to be aware of what "Sengoku Driver" is referencing. At that point it feels like you're doing it just cuz you can. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Sep 5, 2017 20:51
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I see. I'm not sure that does a good enough job of communicating the meaning, personally, because I never picked up on that. But I shouldn't make excuses for my own ignorance, so I'll acquiesce. I don't think Gaim's subs were bad, for the record, it was just a personal disagreement on a decision. Guys like Magenta and OT and other groups aren't, like, Commie and whatnot. Ya guys good.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:03
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That's all anyone should ask, in the end. I just hope I don't sound too unreasonable myself.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:07
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I discuss this stuff to try and learn. This kind of stuff isn't exactly readily apparent across language barriers and decisions made multiple years ago, especially when wordplay is involved. It's not really that obvious on the surface.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:17
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yeah, I'm not really trying to defend TVN here. They're flat out bad.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:20
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In general, as far as attack names go, I prefer the approach that if some attacks are in Japanese, and some are in english (example, "Kamehameha" and "Final Flash"), you keep the Japanese ones the same to preserve that kind of duality. DBZ is a weird case though because there's decades of history at this point and Toei and Bandai seem to want to keep/push a lot of older names like "Special Beam Cannon" for marketing/familiarity reasons even as the dubs have gotten more accurate. But yes. "King Kai Fist" sounds lame.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:39
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Caphi posted:The problem is that there is no hard and fast rule for this. It's something the translator has to decide based on their understanding of intent and tone. Sometimes the distinction you said is important; sometimes it's simply less important than the semantics. Sometimes Excite has to look at "Crimson Burst Dragon Blade" (or w/e) or "Guren Bakuryuuken" and make a judgment call on which sounds tryhard in a more appropriate way. Yes, that is usually subjective and can even be wrong. That's why it's a job. Yeah, I know. I was just speaking towards a personal preference. ZenMasterBullshit posted:Kaioken sounds just as dumb because it's random noises to a non-Japanese speaker and in japanese it's literally just King Kai Fist. would that not be how "Final Flash" sounds to a kid watching in Japan? I mean, it's not just English in a lot of Japanese shows. Digimon is also for 10 year olds and it has creatures throwing around German and all sorts of other stuff Japanese kids wouldn't hear in the basic English classes they have in schools. Quite a few Precure attacks use French, so on and so forth.
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Sep 5, 2017 21:59
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Yeah, I know about that sort of stuff. A lot of this stuff takes from stuff floating around in popular culture. English productions do the same thing with foreign words and surface styling of things too. I just thing that it's worthwhile preserving that in localization some of the time. Obviously they're doing for the sake of what they perceive as "style" or a specific kind of appeal, so why not keep that to a degree? If you can argue that adapting something for the sake of conveying that like the "dai dai dai dai henshin" thing above, the same can be true of the inverse. It's like Caphi said, you have to take it on a case by case basis. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Sep 5, 2017 22:08
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How does it feel, being history's greatest monster?
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Sep 6, 2017 03:54
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this talk of Gaim just reminds us that they wanted us to believe Kouta was from a down on their luck family struggling to make ends meat, and yet, they chose to dress Kouta in all kinds of designer clothes.
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Sep 6, 2017 20:52
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gourdcaptain posted:Still less weird than all the unique clothes Eiji in OOO has despite being literally homeless at the beginning of the series and working part-time for a restaurant after that. for Eiji you could come up with the idea that he bought that stuff before he went on the road or traded for it in his travels. With Kouta it's just inexplicable and weird.
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Sep 6, 2017 21:49
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Cosmic States is great and I will not hear anything against it.
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Sep 9, 2017 20:17
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SHOW ME YOUR COSMIC MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND
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Sep 9, 2017 20:23
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kinda annoyed that we're getting the woman in refrigerators trope this early, but it's not enough to turn me off the show.
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Sep 10, 2017 19:59
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it's not really Toei's decision here, it's all due to TV Asahi wanting to expand their news program and Toei just kind of having to go along with it.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:08
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Kamen Rider will probably be fine because it reruns throughout the week. Sentai tho...
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Sep 11, 2017 00:16
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I've only ever heard about Kamen Rider doing it, and Sentai doesn't have the "be sure to watch us again" bumper like KR does.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:24
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Ignis posted:Sentai has them, it's just that we never encode them in our raws because the encoder and the editor for sentai hate them ah, well thank you for educating me
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Sep 11, 2017 01:32
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Craptacular! posted:It's possible I just grew up finally and stopped being a mentally stunted child is this really neccessary
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Sep 11, 2017 03:01
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I'm referring to the point where you used "stunted child". It sounds more like you meant a childlike sense of being able to believe anything, but the words you used have very different connotations and that's what I was reacting to.
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Sep 11, 2017 04:39
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Let's not kid ourselves that old sentai toys were particularly complex. I mean, the pteranodon from MMPR/Zyuranger isn't exactly what I'd call a complex design. It's more that budgets have been affected by the rising cost of materials and some aspects of design, like diecast, have become more associated with collector lines.
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Sep 11, 2017 04:58
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what? I admitted that he probably meant something other than what he said. I'm explaining why I read it the way I did. Because doing that on purpose legitimately isn't cool at all.
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Sep 11, 2017 05:01
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Production costs and cost of materials are also up, which means even if toys are simpler they're going to cost the same or even more.
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Sep 11, 2017 09:39
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PMush Perfect posted:They future may well be in seinen toku like Garo, just because that's where the demographic is going. ... Ten year olds and younger are watching Garo? Really?
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Sep 11, 2017 19:01
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That makes sense, but I don't think that necessarily means the kids that do exist are going to be abandoned. These franchises may take another form or change even more significantly, but I can't see a future where entertainment for kids is entirely abandoned.
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Sep 11, 2017 19:54
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For all its difficulties, I think Sentai has more staying power than Metal Heroes. It's got a few more years left in it, at least, and if it gets cancelled anytime soon, I think there'd be some kind of revival before long. Whether it's still a kids' focused property, maybe, maybe not, but who knows.
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Sep 11, 2017 20:08
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some would make accusations that Sentai already reached that point at some part of its lifespan, but I digress. Either way, the market of the 90's isn't the same as the market of 2017 so who knows what'll happen. I also imagine the partnership with Saban is helping keep it going, especially now that the american team is giving input on designs. And they count money made by PR when posting about Super Sentai's annual and quarterly revenue.
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Sep 11, 2017 20:19
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Craptacular! posted:Okay, well, the next episode is called "Stinger's reunion with his brother" or something like that so it sounds like bad timing. I've been watching this show go through a lot of nonsense about stuff like stolen birthdays and bad luck and one episode that was like the toku equivalent of Don Corneo's mansion in Final Fantasy VII (right down to the "hot" crossdresser) so it's been pretty goofy so far. You compared this to Abaranger, right? I've seen a bit of Abaranger. It's not exactly all in the same vein as AbareKiller's storyline. In fact, Kyuranger falls short of just how goofy Abaranger can be by comparison.
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Sep 11, 2017 23:31
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Green Buster, dammit.
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Sep 12, 2017 00:44
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Ignis posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfPmIEKlu8 it's 9/13 in Japan right now those fuckers
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Sep 13, 2017 03:03
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The SIC designs are too busy for me. Like, I get what they're going for and I don't begrudge them, they just don't meet my personal tastes.
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Sep 14, 2017 20:03
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I've seen them. Still not really my bag.
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Sep 14, 2017 20:09
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did SIC ever do Super TaToBa? I'm just curious because I'm like one of the five people who liked that base design.
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huh. Neat. Not sure I like that approach to the hawk head, but it's more interesting to me than most SIC stuff is Thanks, Burkion
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