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BACK FOR 2018 Bill Belichick, New England Patriots Todd Bowles, New York Jets Adam Gase, Miami Dolphins Sean McDermott, Buffalo Bills Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers John Harbaugh, Baltimore Ravens Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals Hue Jackson, Cleveland Browns Doug Marrone, Jacksonville Jaguars Bill O'Brien, Houston Texans Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs Anthony Lynn, Los Angeles Chargers Vance Joseph, Denver Broncos Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys Jay Gruden, Washington Mike Zimmer, Minnesota Vikings Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints Ron Rivera, Carolina Panthers Dan Quinn, Atlanta Falcons Dirk Koetter, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sean McVay, Los Angeles Rams Pete Carroll, Seattle Seahawks Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco 49ers  Ben McAdoo, New York Giants Chuck Pagano, Indianapolis Colts Mike Mularkey, Tennessee Titans Jack Del Rio, Oakland Raiders Jim Caldwell, Detroit Lions John Fox, Chicago Bears Bruce Arians, Arizona Cardinals (retired) NEW HEAD COACHES Oakland Raiders: Jon Gruden Chicago Bears: Matt Nagy (Chiefs OC) Tennessee Titans: Mike Vrabel (Texans DC) Arizona Cardinals: Steve Wilks (Panthers DC) New York Giants: Pat Shurmur (Vikings OC) Detroit Lions: Matt Patricia (Patriots DC) Indianapolis Colts: Frank Reich (Eagles OC) GENERAL MANAGERS code:Benne fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Feb 11, 2018 |
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You can toss Harbaugh onto the mild list. Some Baltimore beat writers, particularly the Sun's troll in chief Mike Preston, believe Harbaugh's situation is more precarious than the FO is letting on. The Ravens' owner did fire Billick right after an extension due to a disappointing season on the heels of mediocrity. If Baltimore really under performs, say 6-10 I could see Harbaugh getting the ax for someone who actually knows how to run an offense. Not that I would agree with that move but I could see it happening.
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Sep 9, 2017 05:13
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The Puppy Bowl posted:You can toss Harbaugh onto the mild list. Some Baltimore beat writers, particularly the Sun's troll in chief Mike Preston, believe Harbaugh's situation is more precarious than the FO is letting on. The Ravens' owner did fire Billick right after an extension due to a disappointing season on the heels of mediocrity. If Baltimore really under performs, say 6-10 I could see Harbaugh getting the ax for someone who actually knows how to run an offense. Not that I would agree with that move but I could see it happening. I considered it before erring on the side of caution. Maybe I'm being kind to Harbaugh, but his past record is too good to make me think Ozzie will pull the plug after two down years (which can be excused by bad injury luck, if you're willing to accept that as an excuse). If they get off to a slow start, then we might be on to something, but IMO he's earned the whole "wait and see" deal. E: Actually you talked me into "mild" so yeah, I'll put him there.
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Sep 9, 2017 05:34
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Marvin lewis is absolutely moderate
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Sep 9, 2017 05:46
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Benne posted:I considered it before erring on the side of caution. Maybe I'm being kind to Harbaugh, but his past record is too good to make me think Ozzie will pull the plug after two down years (which can be excused by bad injury luck, if you're willing to accept that as an excuse). If they get off to a slow start, then we might be on to something, but IMO he's earned the whole "wait and see" deal. I'd agree except it's not Ozzie Newsome's call, It's Steve Bisciotti's. Harbaugh is a good coach regarding organizing a team, setting goals, keeping everyone on board, but his actual knowledge of the Xs and Os is sub par so he needs decent Coordinators to handle the details while he handles the general direction and makes the big decisions. He hasn't had that in recent years and Ozzie Newsome frankly hasn't built talented teams. Since Ozzie is sacrosanct in Baltimore, and Steve Bisciotti is essentially a big dumb fan, the blame for recent mediocrity has mostly fallen on Harbaugh. Harbaugh is the same as Flacco in that you know that you could do better but man the odds of landing someone even comparable are low so why chance it. The main difference being that Flacco is actually amazing and just needz weaponz©
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Sep 9, 2017 06:04
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marvin lewis retires from coaching after 2017 and the current Bengals coordinator who is given the most credit this season takes over his role, even though neither of them should be the head coach of a team, which happens commonly in the NFL league
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Sep 9, 2017 06:09
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Doug Pederson might be in the Mild category. While I don't think is a "playoffs or bust" year, I think management is looking to see significant improvement in both the development of Carson Wentz and Pederson's coaching abilities. Without that development, Pederson could be on the hot seat, especially with some rumblings that Schwartz could be gunning for the job.
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Sep 9, 2017 16:48
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Fox's seat is hotter than hot, too, and he's absolutely a candidate for a mid-season firing. The only thing he and Pace have seemed to agree upon lately is their mutual hatred of Cutler (despite a strong denial from Pace, there were multiple reports that Fox was blindsided along with Glennon about the Trubisky move in the draft), and even the normally enthusiastic George McCaskey gave a stoic "we'll see what happens this season" last week when he was asked about the future of the front office and coaching staff. Pace is probably safe despite making a lot of boneheaded moves--he has two more seasons after this one on his deal and the Bears historically don't eat multiple years of a contract--but 3 - 13 last year was the Bears' worst record in the 16-game era. If November comes and 8 - 8 seems like a pipe dream at best, Fox is toast.
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Sep 9, 2017 17:20
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I feel like Bill O'Brien shouldn't be in the completely safe category. Wasn't it just last year there were murmurs that he could possibly be traded to another team or just leaving? That was weird. His reputation as a QB guru and the endless parade of garbagemen at QB has been wearing thin on some fans. He could probably go 9-7 again and be safe but if savage/Watson are terrible that could doom them to a worse record than that.
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Sep 9, 2017 17:39
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Harbaugh is a grea game-planner as well. The team usually plays up to superior teams (but down to inferior ones too often) his biggest problem is he's way too loyal to his staff. He fired Cam-Cam way too late because even he knew that SB window was shutting. Really frustrating that Boldin was misused for so long. The dude really needs to get rid of Dean Pees and if a disaster season happens that might be what kills him. This season the OL is probably going to ruin an otherwise decent roster, and the defense is stacked and will over-perform regardless of how Pees uses them. If the team does okay and the defense starts loving up that's the only way I can see Pees getting shitcanned. I really like Harbs but he needs to move quicker on killing bad coordinators.
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Sep 9, 2017 18:07
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The Dark Lord is currently in last place in the NFL. imo it's time to move on. Also thanks for getting this thread up, should be another good year in the coaching carousel. MD2020 posted:Doug Pederson might be in the Mild category. While I don't think is a "playoffs or bust" year, I think management is looking to see significant improvement in both the development of Carson Wentz and Pederson's coaching abilities. Yeah Jeff Lurie said he expected to see "progress" this year but didn't define what that is. There are also rumors that Jim Schwartz is sticking around as DC because he wants to take over if/when Pederson gets fired. I don't see it though, Pederson is really well-liked by everyone. We'd have to implode and go 2-14 or something for him to get fired. axeil fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Sep 9, 2017 |
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Sep 9, 2017 20:32
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Sour Diesel posted:Harbaugh is a grea game-planner as well. The team usually plays up to superior teams (but down to inferior ones too often) his biggest problem is he's way too loyal to his staff. He fired Cam-Cam way too late because even he knew that SB window was shutting. Really frustrating that Boldin was misused for so long. Considering that team management like that is supposed to be a strength of Harbuagh's I agree. The problem is as you say, Pees isn't terrible enough to force pressure on Harbs to fire him but a more competent coordinator could do a lot more with the personnel he has had. Plus the 4th quarter defensive collapses absolutely fall on him for not having any sense of invention late in games and being unable to alter his game plan to suit offenses changing things up late. I think we would of won like 4 games more if not for the late collapses last year. The Steelers game was inexcusable. It all hurts all the more when you think we could have promoted Teryl Austin instead of him when Pagano got snagged.
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Sep 10, 2017 03:30
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One thing to remember about Caldwell is that he doesn't have a contract after this year. The temperature on his seat could go up very quickly if they're slow out of the gate.
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Sep 10, 2017 04:44
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Cavauro posted:marvin lewis retires from coaching after 2017 and the current Bengals coordinator who is given the most credit this season takes over his role, even though neither of them should be the head coach of a team, which happens commonly in the NFL league The kind of/kind of not surprise will be Bill O'Brien. Savage will be mediocre which will lead to them turning to Watson, who will struggle and someone has to take the fall. LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Sep 10, 2017 |
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Sep 10, 2017 05:00
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Barring a deep playoff run Pagano is 1000% gone after this year. Ballard took some heat for not firing him as his first official act, but keeping him around actually makes some sense if you view this as a bridge year in the rebuild. No sense bringing in a new coach and new scheme when the franchise QB is going to have no offseason and you're already turning over a huge chunk of the roster. The popular theory among Indy media is that Ballard replaces Pagano with Dave Toub after this season. I have to say, that sounds like a good deal to me.
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Sep 10, 2017 05:15
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ShakeZula posted:The popular theory among Indy media is that Ballard replaces Pagano with Dave Toub after this season. I have to say, that sounds like a good deal to me. Whenever this comes up I'm torn between thinking "Keep your dirty hands off of him!" and "he really deserves it."
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Sep 10, 2017 05:27
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gently caress you guys, Toub needs to stay forever.
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Sep 10, 2017 11:47
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ShakeZula posted:The popular theory among Indy media is that Ballard replaces Pagano with Dave Toub after this season. I have to say, that sounds like a good deal to me. Goddammit, this is why I wanted the Bears to hire Ballard instead of Pace ... but then Ballard told Ted Phillips that he sucks poo poo and that he wanted to report directly to George McCaskey and torpedoed himself. 
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Sep 10, 2017 16:43
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Definitely add Bill O'Brien to the hot seat
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Sep 10, 2017 21:30
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I absolutely think BOB and Marvin Lewis are getting hot, and the TNF game should be reallllll interesting
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Sep 10, 2017 21:30
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Payton and Brees are connected at the hip when one goes, the other will. bill obrien has no business coaching in the nfl.
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Sep 10, 2017 21:31
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Is Pagano even making it to October at this rate
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Sep 10, 2017 22:18
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Benne posted:Is Pagano even making it to October at this rate yeah you probably fire him and promote chud to see if he's your guy moving forward could be a tampa thing like koetter
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Sep 10, 2017 22:19
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Chud deservers another shot to be an HC. He got a raw deal in Cleveland.
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Sep 10, 2017 22:26
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Pagano is so fired Getting torched by Goff
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Sep 10, 2017 22:52
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Yeah, need to add a new category called "Nuclear". And throw Pagano on the list.
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Sep 10, 2017 22:54
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C-Bangin' it 
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How is the thread title not "No Luck Chuck"
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Sep 10, 2017 23:07
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sharknado slashfic posted:How is the thread title not "No Luck Chuck" Who knows what cocktail of Ambien and Jack Daniels Irsay is on right now.
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Sep 10, 2017 23:15
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IDK if Bowles is on the hot seat but he should be.
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Sep 10, 2017 23:16
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Colostomy Bag posted:Yeah, need to add a new category called "Nuclear". Has a coach ever been fired in Week 1? Because we might see it. Good god.
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Sep 10, 2017 23:32
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I don't think Marvin Lewis is terrible or anything but I think the Bengals need a change of scenery
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Sep 10, 2017 23:43
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Getting 40-burgered by the Jared Goff Rams is probably not a good thing for your job security!
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Sep 11, 2017 00:45
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Benne posted:Is Pagano even making it to October at this rate I hope not. He is 0-2 every year except the Leukemia year where Bruce Arians kept saving his rear end.
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Sep 11, 2017 00:48
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I don't see how Lewis makes it through the year. I know it's only one awful game into this season, but how much more of this can Cincinnati take?
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Sep 11, 2017 01:46
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Intruder posted:Definitely add Bill O'Brien to the hot seat Yeah I stand by my assertion last year that Houston's coaching restructuring was a prelude to them firing BOB. He basically has one job to fix the offense and it looks awful again
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Sep 11, 2017 20:13
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Simplex posted:Yeah I stand by my assertion last year that Houston's coaching restructuring was a prelude to them firing BOB. He basically has one job to fix the offense and it looks awful again He's lucky ownership isn't as quick to change coaches as he is to change QBs.
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Sep 11, 2017 20:20
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Here's a quick Week 1 recap of the Colts --Marlon Mack scores a touchdown but the refs incorrectly rule him out at the 1. Replay shows him in bounds and hitting the pylon. Play can and should be easily overturned. --Instead of challenging, Pagano hurries his offense to the line of scrimmage and runs a play. The Colts lose yardage and eventually settle for a field goal. --It's now 10-3 Rams when it should've been 10-7 Rams with a bit of a momentum swing. The Colts never come close again. How does this man still have a job
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Sep 11, 2017 21:06
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It's probably someone else's job to look for that type of thing and let the head coach know, but that someone else would have been hired by Pagano anyway so....
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Sep 11, 2017 21:09
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McCarthy is about as close to mild as you can get without actually crossing over.
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Sep 11, 2017 21:14
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We will all be cold in the ground decades from now and McCarthy will still be employing Dom Capers
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