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There's a whole bunch of phrases there where his intended eloquence misses the mark - or he just plainly doesn't actually know how to word what he hopes to convey. I picked a few of them out but didn't end up posting them because it felt nitpicky, but here's some anyway:quote:A real man - real in all the ways that we recognize as real - quote:Power seemed to explode in Covenant's chest. quote:With a roar as if the air itself were burning quote:The old man was tall with power. quote:“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me." Anyway, yeah, nitpicky, but grating nonetheless. Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jan 7, 2019 |
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Jan 7, 2019 23:33
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In fact it's the comma that makes it terrible. but actually
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Jan 8, 2019 17:04
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once more: that comma should not be there. getting rid of it would do wonders though really he just should've wrote static
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Jan 9, 2019 02:09
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Sham bam bamina! posted:written You got me. Amethyst posted:"Television tuned to a dead channel" is cooler and more evocative than "static" I get what you're saying and I don't entirely disagree, but it does read like a tip-of-the-tongue workaround for me. Amethyst posted:"The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel." Grammatically, there is no reason whatsoever to put that comma there. In fact, I'd lean towards it being incorrect as the information that follows is essential. But yeah, personally, I do think the cadence is much smoother without it. Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jan 9, 2019 |
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Jan 9, 2019 02:25
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A criteria is wrong. Criterium is singular, synonymous with criterion (and used in languages like German (with a k) and Dutch).
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Jan 25, 2019 16:06
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Bonaventure posted:THE WEIRD MOUNTAINS Is this a real quote?
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Jan 27, 2019 01:52
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Jan 27, 2019 01:59
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I, for one, hate it when a book has motifs
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Jan 28, 2019 09:50
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I was about to say: I'm not sure if that was re: genre fiction, but literary short story anthologies have been doing just fine e: ^^^^ that is some weirdly arbitrary prescriptive nonsense Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jan 28, 2019 |
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Jan 28, 2019 17:38
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Mel Mudkiper posted:it should be noted that short story collections and multi-volume YA books are both not examples of serialized novels which I think the original dude was referring to AFancyQuestionMark posted:I am surprised we haven't seen the return of short-story magazines or even serialized fiction it was both (or, well, not the YA stuff) Bonaventure posted:I work with YA books and in my experience they're more commonly bloated to 400 pages because of Harry Potter and Twilight's lingering influence. what do you do?
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Jan 28, 2019 17:53
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my bad
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Jan 28, 2019 22:23
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Nerdburger_Jansen posted:The idea that a work of art is primarily about communication Whose claim is this?
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Jan 29, 2019 02:52
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please don't post 6 times in a row again
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Jan 29, 2019 08:58
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Nerdburger_Jansen posted:It could be, but the tone of the posts is pretty angry and incoherent. If I'm being unclear, then a question, and not fuming at something that you thought I said, would be the appropriate reaction. To be fair I think some posters are strawmanning it up, but you're kind of among them, brother. See: my last question.
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Jan 29, 2019 09:12
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Eugene V. Dubstep posted:substituting polysyllables in hackneyed arrangements for thought. Bonfire of the Genres: Substituting Polysyllables in Hackneyed Arrangements for Thought Or: the title to my next self-published collection of instapoetry
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Wasn't it his argument that making such lists is pointless because they can never be exhaustive? That's the non-sequitur regarding thematic analysis I struggle with. Man, there sure is a lot of noise and misunderstanding in a discussion about what texts do, don't, should and shouldn't communicate. Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jan 29, 2019 |
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Jan 29, 2019 18:56
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"Theming" is a terrible verb by the way
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Jan 29, 2019 19:14
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that's what I kept thinking of
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Jan 29, 2019 19:22
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It's funny because, in a roundabout way, he almost came to the the conclusion himself that at no point in thematic analysis is the objective to create some kind of exhaustive list of themes, but then he did a 180 and concluded that since such a list cannot exist, thematic analysis has no merit... Almost.
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Jan 29, 2019 19:48
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I remember that post. It's not gotten better over time.
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Jan 29, 2019 23:22
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gently caress Tolkien's wishes.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:27
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chernobyl kinsman posted:lol at europeans who dont speak english you got me riled up now
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Jan 30, 2019 23:34
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hackbunny posted:It was a pretty bad take though. It talked about "absolute Evil" acting in the books, identified hobbits with Celts. Stuff like that chernobyl kinsman posted:he posted, in english ^^^^^ I'm curious, what constitutes "occasional translation"?
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Cool! Is it something you're pursuing? I hope you don't mean you've lost the taste for translation altogether  e: also am I correct in assuming you're an Italian native? Lex Neville fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Jan 31, 2019 00:05
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I was reading this when you posted the Tolkien thing, you might enjoy it https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/01/21/can-a-translation-be-a-masterpiece-too/
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Jan 31, 2019 00:55
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Fantasy, schmantasy
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Feb 2, 2019 08:34
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if only more fantasy writers only fantasized about writing
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Feb 3, 2019 14:26
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Imagine being able to answer that
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Feb 5, 2019 18:28
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please italicize worldbuilding to indicate irony so as to make sure your post is read in its entirety
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Feb 5, 2019 19:16
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worldbuilding is a lazy catch-all justification for the inclusion of non-essential prose
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Feb 6, 2019 14:26
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e: oops my joke fell flat because i misunderstood
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Feb 6, 2019 15:03
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no no that other meaning of meaning
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Feb 6, 2019 15:07
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how was that a flex lol
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Feb 6, 2019 16:03
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Conrad_Birdie posted:Singular they is where it's at, welcome to 2019.
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Feb 6, 2019 16:06
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man this thread was a rollercoaster today, let's do this again sometime
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Nerdburger_Jansen posted:Broke: The world exists as a stage for human drama never was a point missed more badly
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The fallacy though is that the literature of the past we consider "great" only represents a small portion of everything that has been published. You can check, for example, a list of American bestsellers from the end of the 19th Century, and only two or three books might be remembered by people outside of specialist scholars (Prisoner of Zenda, Red Badge of Courage, and Quo Vadis). The inverse is also true and confirms the fallacy. See (the admittedly tired example of): John Williams ^^^ why "author(s?)"
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Feb 7, 2019 13:24
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Mel Mudkiper posted:My argument is that the trend of "world-building" at its most extreme seems to be built around creating narrative that fails to provide significance to either the text or the reader. A fictional world should, I argue, exist as a vehicle for significance. If the construction of the world is wholly superfluous to what is the experience of the reader, it becomes almost wholly unnecessary. A few of us stated this already (albeit a little more polemically), but it really is the crux of the argument. Significance is key and too often you hear "oh it's just a bit of world-building" as a response to "why is that there?". Honestly, I never even come across the term in any "serious" literary criticism or analysis; only ever in the sense of it being there for the sake of itself. What happened to "setting"?
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Here, in Europe, when we try to get to know someone, we don’t ask questions. We enter into conversation and get to know a person by the way they think.
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