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Speaking of the sound design... Any theories on the reoccurring sharp 'clasping' sound that takes place in almost every scene in the Poets study? The effect on me was to annoy and keep on edge. (since I was so sided with mother).
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“Aroronofsky laid it on thick, but the jam wasn’t rich.”
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davidspackage posted:
If you take Jennifer to be a natural process, that could be evolution of flora and fauna on the earth, as she listens to the earth and responds with new coats of paint. Which also clashes with humanity painting it without consulting the earth or her.
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Sep 18, 2017 18:56
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3 mother! Domestic $7,500,000 Worldwide $13,500,000 Week 1 Ouch. I expected it to have a stronger showing since IT had such an explosive first week.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:13
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Bottom Liner posted:3 mother! Domestic $7,500,000 Worldwide $13,500,000 Week 1 Do you think this is the kind of film that will get a word of mouth boost? It gets discussed as something weird and unusual and extreme and "holy poo poo you GOTTA see it for yourself" so I wonder if people will get curious about it, or if general audiences are going to think it sounds too "artsy".
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I think at some point in the third act I realized this movie was not going to be financially successful.
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mary had a little clam posted:Do you think this is the kind of film that will get a word of mouth boost? Not at all. The word of mouth will be terrible for general audiences.
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Sep 18, 2017 20:34
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china bot posted:this has cult/midnight movie written all over it I don't know about that. Like, that seems highly unlikely to me.
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Serf posted:I don't know about that. Like, that seems highly unlikely to me. i used to program midnights in Ann Arbor, and if you can fill a house for Antichrist, you can certainly fill a house with this
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Sep 18, 2017 20:41
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china bot posted:this has cult/midnight movie written all over it i could see blindsiding people with it who haven't seen it before to get their reactions and have the talk afterword, but not in an annual rewatch or whatever I usually figure "cult" status has
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Yeah I liked this movie, but it is definitely not in "cult" rewatching territory for me. Once was enough, and if you didn't show it with a true surround-sound setup it wouldn't have nearly the same impact.
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Serf posted:Yeah I liked this movie, but it is definitely not in "cult" rewatching territory for me. Once was enough, and if you didn't show it with a true surround-sound setup it wouldn't have nearly the same impact. hence it being a great midnight movie. the crowd for a midnight tends to be less cinephiles, more drunken college students. that's why stuff like The Holy Mountain tends to show up at midnight screenings 
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The Bloop posted:i could see blindsiding people with it who haven't seen it before to get their reactions and have the talk afterword, but not in an annual rewatch or whatever I usually figure "cult" status has I'm in this camp. It's rare to get to see a movie that you have no idea what it's going to be like and I think the first half is great for people seeking information about the style and tone of the movie. So I think this movie works best as a blind side and it's a rare movie where even the trailer doesn't clue you in. In the flip side, you have no idea how people will react to it. So I liked the movie a lot but I'd never recommended it. It's better as a secret that people stumble on, which is the worst word of mouth possible.
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Boy that is a troubling gif to see at work.Ape Agitator posted:I'm in this camp. It's rare to get to see a movie that you have no idea what it's going to be like and I think the first half is great for people seeking information about the style and tone of the movie. So I think this movie works best as a blind side and it's a rare movie where even the trailer doesn't clue you in. I've been telling all my friends to go see it, because I think it is a legitimately good movie. But I also can easily see how others would disagree with me on that, so really I just want other people to go through the same experience. If there's one word I can use to describe this movie, it is "divisive"
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I don't know about you guys but I can't stop thinking about the little references and stuff and I can't wait to watch it again.
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Ape Agitator posted:In the flip side, you have no idea how people will react to it. I feel like if I knew someone well enough to recommend this, I'd have a pretty good idea. flashy_mcflash posted:I don't know about you guys but I can't stop thinking about the little references and stuff and I can't wait to watch it again. I would like to see the craziness at the end again without the trauma of experiencing it for the firs time. I'm sure there are oodles of details easily missed in the loving insanity that happens.
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Just me and two little old ladies at the 1:30pm Monday screening. Can't say I really enjoyed it. All I could think while watching this, besides what I was going to make for dinner due to the poor pacing, was that the subtitle of this movie should be "uncomfortable situations for introverted people". Also that thing in the toilet reminded me of the goddamn baby from Eraserhead. Eww.
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Sirotan posted:Also that thing in the toilet reminded me of the goddamn baby from Eraserhead. Eww. I have no doubt that was entirely intentional.
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Just saw it and skimmed the thread. A few things: I think it's a mistake to think Aronofsky as arrogant because he might put himself on a god level. I don't think anything indicates he's saying he is literally god, just that the act of creation is always just that no matter what level it's done on. While God created everything and Aronofsky just creates movies, it's still an act of creation and the ego involved in it as well as the destruction that can be involved doesn't change no matter who or what you are. He's not saying that he is as good as God or that God is as bad as him, he's saying it's all the same. I also think it's a mistake to look at this movie like a bible puzzle. While it's clear that Aronofsky laid the references on thick, I also don't think they're meant to cleanly flow along a bible timeline or all fit into place. I think it's all just set dressing in the end and Aronofsky, for better or worse, has always been a person that lay it all on as thick as possible There are a bunch of interesting ways to read this movie but I kind of like the one that my gut reaction gave me that on some level this is a response to Rosemary's Baby. Like that movie was all like, "man, Satanist taking over a woman's life sure is scary" and this movie responds "it sucks when it's God too" (and yes I know that is an extremely terribly unnuanced read of Rosemary's Baby)
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Sep 18, 2017 22:56
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Just got back - absolutely adored it. Both my friends walked out about an hour into the film, and there was a steady trickle heading towards the exit during the third act. gently caress 'em, they don't deserve movies this good.
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Mr. Flunchy posted:
Agreed. I went with three friends and there were four other people in the theatre. Two left near the beginning of the meltdown and the other two left the second the credits started. My friends and I stayed. I was the only one who noticed the single capital letter in the credits.
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I can't imagine being so put off I'd walk out of a theater. I usually have some idea of what I'm getting into though, and in this case I'm at least very familiar with Aronofsky's work, and I knew that lack of info was part of the intent so I didn't pry ahead of time. My favorite theater walk out was the Aristocrats, which had a loving sign outside of the ticket booth warning people what it was about, and I think half the theater still left. Synecdoche, New York is the last movie I can remember not finishing because it was so up its own rear end, but I was watching that on Netflix.
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glam rock hamhock posted:Just saw it and skimmed the thread. A few things: I think that comparing yourself to god is going to be interpreted as arrogant no matter what. I think that in Aronofsky's case he is very aware of what he is doing and totally owns it by highlighting it to the point of absurdity.
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I really liked the chirpy 'ding' when the exclamation mark appears on the title screen.
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There were 6 other people in my midday screening and they all staggered out very upset, annoyed, yet bemused.
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I just had two old people who seemed to take it all in just fine.
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Mr. Flunchy posted:I really liked the chirpy 'ding' when the exclamation mark appears on the title screen. reminded me of the ding when the V appears in Metal Gear Solid V.
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glam rock hamhock posted:I just had two old people who seemed to take it all in just fine. Shoulda jabbed em with a stick.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Shoulda jabbed em with a stick. The one time I leave my jabbing stick at home...
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The Bloop posted:I feel like if I knew someone well enough to recommend this, I'd have a pretty good idea. I'm fairly sure I wouldn't recommend it to myself but I ended up really liking it. I also passed on Noah (saw it on cable) and really haven't intentionally gone to a religious movie since Passion of the Christ. The craft of the movie is certainly incredible and perhaps I'd recommend it based on that but the combo of horrific imagery and violence at the end, religion, bad baby chiropractors, and really negative portrayals of religious figures and humanity as a whole are tough sells.
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glam rock hamhock posted:I just had two old people who seemed to take it all in just fine. They showed more testicular fortitude than half the dorks posting in this thread. "Oh god this movie! My brain is haning upside down now! I never want to think about it again! Back to my Marvel schlock!" Cowards. The lot of ya!
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Super Fan posted:They showed more testicular fortitude than half the dorks posting in this thread. Not a single post here is like this but ok
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Bottom Liner posted:Not a single post here is like this but ok Punkin Spunkin posted:I also never want to talk about it or think about it again. I'm going to pretend this thread doesn't exist.
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Love the director, went in blind, was blown away. What an achievement, I mean drat. Even when you feel like the movie is taking a breather you still feel the creeping tension rising up over you. You can really feel the level of intent to every little bit of this movie. I think some people are frustrated that it doesn't slot into their ideals in their specific way. But it doesn't want to, and it reminds me of The Fountain and in some ways Inception in the sense of how deeply interconnected the levels of themes are. The feminist ideal of women as consumable homemakers trapped with men that have no regard for them, the environmental themes of Mother looking after the home and the flood of houseguests who start painting it grey (cities) and flooding the home, as well Mother Earth literally setting the house aflame to cleanse itself. Another level down is an entire indictment of God's self-obsession and disregard beneath a longing for worship. It's a film that openly hates God, which is a pretty impressive feat. I don't really see a point in trying to "critique" the film per se, it's very clearly a technical achievement, and thematically it has so much to say that it's infinitely more valuable to try to parse that through its metaphors and appreciate its insights, than paint the author as some arrogant loon. Really all around genius piece of work, highly recommended to anyone seeking a greater connection in all the world's chaos.
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The Bloop posted:Agreed. Oh, I didn't actually stay through the credits and didn't pay that much attention to them when they started, but it was H in Him, wasn't it?
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Karnegal posted:Long rambly post ho! (thanks beer!) Interesting stuff to think about as well, thanks Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Sep 19, 2017 |
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Ultima66 posted:Oh, I didn't actually stay through the credits and didn't pay that much attention to them when they started, but it was H in Him, wasn't it? It was, yes.
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The list of characters in the credits in general was pretty amazing
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glam rock hamhock posted:The list of characters in the credits in general was pretty amazing Wish I stayed for this. I'm glad to see that the grimly funny antitheism of Noah was NOT a fluke.
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