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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

the old ceremony posted:

see this is the problem with turning your webcomic into a game, you attract gamers

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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Nuns with Guns posted:

I thought everyone knew about Kazerad's famous essay where he says a nazi so bad at his job might in fact be an ally to the allies for how he hurts the nazi cause, just like all those trolls sending women death threats might in fact be helping anti-gg causes!
Link?

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

http://kazerad.tumblr.com/post/96623862313/allegiance

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018


...holy poo poo, this is one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Literally every post in this Tumblr is a new facet in a gem of dysfunction.

quote:

People who cause problems while claiming to share our allegiances should be viewed in the same light as those openly against us, and subject to the exact same dissuasion tactics we would show them if they had declared themselves our opponent.
:airquote: dissuasion tactics :airquote:

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Prequel is bad, and not even in a funny way.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Prequel is bad, and not even in a funny way.
Isn't your gimmick supposed to be posting bad webcomic opinions?

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
One month ago you made yourself a promise: you were going to turn your life around. You were going to graduate from college, start your own band, and get a superhero girlfriend. Nobody thought you could do it; they said your forgettable name, lack of any personality, and dweeby looks would always hold you down.

But you had a plan.

You think you’ll start with a new name. Something more memorable, maybe completely original, to fit your new life.

>Enter Name

>Clevin O'Toole

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

start your own bad
webcomics thread

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?


I thought there was nothing Kazerad had left to show me that could make me dislike him any more than I already do, after such gems he's posted here like intentionally going to sites where people are drawing porn of his character and drawing custom ads for them to get them to start reading, or his lovely puppetmaster thing where he claimed Prequel was just an experiment in how much he could manipulate people and get away with it, or even that one time he tried to rip an artist off and pay them in gift cards to Red Robin or something and was super confused as to why people thought he was an rear end in a top hat.

Silly me.

Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?

For anyone that has played the Prequel flash, is there rotoscoped animation? I remember that being one of the reasons Kazerad mentioned in the old thread about why it was taking so long to create. I'm curious if it's even in the final product at all.

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!


The tiny character sprites look rotoscoped. Even the dog was rotoscoped! (The dog died during production, apparently, according to the credits.) It's actually a really slick production, visually, but it falls into a lot of the classic pitfalls that old lovely adventure games do.

Specifically, it is very caught up in how clever its writing is and forces the player to read through all of it, no matter how trivial or out of the way. This is dumb and bad. If the player knows where to go or what to do in order to make the plot advance, a good adventure game lets them do it even if the character hasn't explicitly figured it out in-universe. Having to click on specific inventory item to make the cloak-recharge cutscenes advance is not great. Just play through those lines in order if there's no action the player is trying to prompt except for passing the time.

(Also, it has an invisible player character with point-and-click movement that has collision but not pathfinding, so you can get stuck on things with no obvious means of escape.)

Ultimately, it's very visually impressive and I would have been blown away if this was released in the same time period as Homestuck's early pseudo-adventure games. Now, I would much rather have seen this extremely linear chunk of writing just, uh, written out. The jokes are punchy but their impact is significantly decreased by how long it takes (and how hard it can be) to get from beat to beat. Literally just scrolling through text and image panels would have been a fantastic way to get through that material, and it could have been done in far less than two years' time.

Kazerad, this was mentioned several times in the Prequel thread before it got closed, but your ideas are too big. If you want readership, which you obviously did at some point because of your ad-buys on furry porn sites, find the right balance of content quality and update rate to actually attract and maintain that audience. I don't know what happened to make this update take two years, but two years is just straight-up too long for an update, especially when you're constantly saying you're still working on it and not just going on hiatus for a while. Focus on the things you're good at, which is your writing and art, and stop massively overreaching on cool-looking but otherwise overblown gimmicks that don't run on the devices everyone uses to read webcomics these days.

So, welcome back. I look forward to continuing to read this if you ever stop jerking off over your artistic visions.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
This is turning into a full-on roast. :allears:

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015

Since it's a new thread I figure I'll tell everyone about a new comic I found called Critter Coven.



I don't know much about Wiccan and magick subculture but I find it pretty charming and funny. The art and designs are great with a soft warm colour palette. The comic is almost at its one year anniversary but it's been very enjoyable so far.

EDIT: Changed to the proper link

DoubleCakes fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Sep 22, 2017

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Well, I enjoyed the update, at least.

King Cohort
Mar 14, 2010

PMush Perfect posted:

That was supposed to be a burn I bet but it's actually sound advice from one perspective.

"Changing to a new medium will bring people who will tell you exactly how you suck at that medium". Not as a good or bad thing, just a matter of fact.

Or I could be reading too much into a shitpost.

It's not even that I was telling Kaz he sucks at making games, I was telling him I couldn't finish the loving update and see the story because his magnum opus flash is coded and designed like poo poo

I'd love to see if Katia succeeds, but no way in hell am I wasting another hour to get there only to have my browser crash again

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
I'm not sure I see the distinction.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges

DoubleCakes posted:

Since it's a new thread I figure I'll tell everyone about a new comic I found called Critter Coven.



I don't know much about Wiccan and magick subculture but I find it pretty charming and funny. The art and designs are great with a soft warm colour palette. The comic is almost at its one year anniversary but it's been very enjoyable so far.

They've moved from tapastic to their own site

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011


Thank god, I can't stand Tapastic. The bloated mess of scripting is never as convenient as "click on the page to see the next page" or even "click on the "Next" button to see the next page".

King Cohort
Mar 14, 2010

PMush Perfect posted:

I'm not sure I see the distinction.

The distinction is that not only is he bad at making games, he's worse at telling a story, because there are members of his audience who waited a year to see the next part of the story who now can't cuz the game that shows it is broken

So yea fair point

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
to read my webcomic you must solve a series of riddles to unlock a map which leads you to a fresh produce shop on the eastern seaboard of australia, where a usb containing the archives can be bought for the low low price of $4.99 (plus you get a free eggplant with every purchase)

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

the old ceremony posted:

to read my webcomic you must solve a series of riddles to unlock a map which leads you to a fresh produce shop on the eastern seaboard of australia, where a usb containing the archives can be bought for the low low price of $4.99 (plus you get a free eggplant with every purchase)

can I just :filez: it? I'm poor.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

nine-gear crow posted:

can I just :filez: it? I'm poor.
you can have it for free but you don't get the eggplant

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015


Thanks, the new site is much better.

In other news, Endtown rolls on. It's back to the titular town in the latest arc with a cannibalistic mystery raising racial tensions. The creator doesn't seem like the kind of guy to make commentary on current events but it's fascinating how prescient the idea of a subterranean colony at risk because of conflicts between tribes of mutants. This is also the first arc in a while to not star Wally and his friends.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I'll wait for the screenshot lets play.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
i played the game and it was fine although in the interim since i last looked at the comic i forgot who any of the characters are or why they're there

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i view kazerad's activity on the internet as a useful resource to be utilized with appropriate distance and context

like when he linked to an admittedly interesting blog post by a Nerdy Camgirl and called her one of his favorite essayists

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

Unshamed by Koos

ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:

i view kazerad's activity on the internet as a useful resource to be utilized with appropriate distance and context

like when he linked to an admittedly interesting blog post by a Nerdy Camgirl and called her one of his favorite essayists

Aw, that's just mean and overly-reductive. I'm a mid-tier essayist at best; the fact that so many people vehemently disagree with the things I write should be proof of my insufficience on that front. AellaGirl hits a lot of the same ideas on definitions and group dynamics in a much more tactful and experienced manner, as well as doing an admirable amount of data analysis on sexuality. If you're going to vaguely reference her, I feel it's only appropriate to directly link her.

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kazerad posted:

Aw, that's just mean and overly-reductive. I'm a mid-tier essayist at best; the fact that so many people vehemently disagree with the things I write should be proof of my insufficience on that front. AellaGirl hits a lot of the same ideas on definitions and group dynamics in a much more tactful and experienced manner, as well as doing an admirable amount of data analysis on sexuality. If you're going to vaguely reference her, I feel it's only appropriate to directly link her.

you have truly fascinating tunnel vision

every post you make carries with it a novella of Things That Were Left Out

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

Unshamed by Koos

ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:

you have truly fascinating tunnel vision

every post you make carries with it a novella of Things That Were Left Out
Just be safe and assume you were 100% correct about everything left unmentioned and that I was ashamed to admit it.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
he is unfortunately a sleazebag, it's a chronic psychological problem that science hasn't found the cure for yet

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kazerad posted:

Just be safe and assume you were 100% correct about everything left unmentioned and that I was ashamed to admit it.

see that's barely even what I mean

like you begin a hundred stories by complete accident and you don't notice it at all

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
and don't you have comics to write

why have you reported for your beating

no one made you attend

go be constructive

Kazerad
Aug 1, 2011

Unshamed by Koos

ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:

and don't you have comics to write

why have you reported for your beating

no one made you attend

go be constructive
I don't know, I have this fear of becoming disconnected. People don't contact me directly with criticism and complaints, it only occurs on public forums, and I feel kind of obligated to experience it lest I grow complacent among people sending me bland praise. And just watching without acknowledging I'm there or contributing feels rude? I don't think I'm good at meshing with SA culture though, and I feel bad about that. I am not very good at this.

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kazerad posted:

I don't know, I have this fear of becoming disconnected. People don't contact me directly with criticism and complaints, it only occurs on public forums, and I feel kind of obligated to experience it lest I grow complacent among people sending me bland praise. And just watching without acknowledging I'm there or contributing feels rude? I don't think I'm good at meshing with SA culture though, and I feel bad about that. I am not very good at this.

you're good for a laugh here

well, anywhere

but right now you're here

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
man I really need to start my webcomic

ArgumentatumE.C.T.
Nov 5, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tenebrais posted:

I just read through all of Awful Hospital after whoever recommended it earlier, and I'm loving it. Has shades of Kill Six Billion Demons and The Property Of Hate, with a lovely meta aftertaste that's very rare in webcomics.

Incidentally, since it hasn't been mentioned yet, check out The Property Of Hate, a comic about ideas.

gently caress yes Property of Hate

theres still little enough of that comic that anyone could knock it out in an afternoon, and it's wonderful. Heavy-handed on the imagery, but in a completely self-aware and pleasing way. Love it.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Kazerad posted:

I don't know, I have this fear of becoming disconnected. People don't contact me directly with criticism and complaints, it only occurs on public forums, and I feel kind of obligated to experience it lest I grow complacent among people sending me bland praise. And just watching without acknowledging I'm there or contributing feels rude? I don't think I'm good at meshing with SA culture though, and I feel bad about that. I am not very good at this.

You're bad at this because you're an emotionally-stunted manchild with deep insecurity issues that desperately wants others to see him as the height of objective intellectualism.







So basically, Post Your Favorite is more your SA forums-style.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

The Ayshkerbundy posted:

man I really need to start my webcomic
i started my webcomic once and my love life has never recovered

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Gally
May 31, 2001

Come on!
First protip: people don't like being paid in Chili's gift cards

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