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Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

precision posted:

Eh, it looks to me like all the cool kids of TVIV are in here! I think we've got a consensus.

Hey it's Ganj everyone!

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
That reminds me, I was thinking it would end up being one of the Wayback Boys (or Girl!) that Mackenzie was cheating with, what with the "will your roommates be home?" line. Was there any hint about who it was?

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009
This show is really funny. It takes all the silly true crime stuff and runs with it. An actual good Netflix show.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Only through the first two but the handjob simulation holy poo poo. Also, I read some IGN review that was like "this isn't a comedy but" and I must heartily disagree.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
IGN is dumb, then.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




The concept was funny but after ep 2 i really couldnt give a poo poo about watching another one let alone 6 more or whatever.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



My call? I think it was Sam. Look, he's been sabatoging the doc the entire time, throwing suspicious back on his patsy, and then new. Tries to derail Peter. Is obsessed with dicks

romanowski
Nov 10, 2012

i almost stopped after two episodes because i thought it was aggressively unfunny but i just finished it and it got surprisingly good by the end

e: although I was a little disappointed by the reveal at the end because all the black bars in this thread led me to believe that it was going to be a lot more open ended than it ends up being. that's obviously not really the show's fault but still

romanowski fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Sep 19, 2017

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

It's how her species communicates

I'm only on episode 3 but it's gotta be Shapiro. I'm a teacher, I know teachers like her. She did it.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Grem posted:

I'm only on episode 3 but it's gotta be Shapiro. I'm a teacher, I know teachers like her. She did it.

How would Shapiro get access to the security footage though? She hasn't got keys to the A/V room.

misguided rage
Jun 15, 2010

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

Rarity posted:

How would Shapiro get access to the security footage though? She hasn't got keys to the A/V room.
They made a big deal about only 9 students having access to the room but I don't think they every mentioned which faculty members do.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
They clearly did mention it, the AV guy and the Yanitor

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Only halfway through the first episode but already I like that this feels more straight-faced than Christopher Guest mockumentaries.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

romanowski posted:

i almost stopped after two episodes because i thought it was aggressively unfunny but i just finished it and it got surprisingly good by the end

e: although I was a little disappointed by the reveal at the end because all the black bars in this thread led me to believe that it was going to be a lot more open ended than it ends up being. that's obviously not really the show's fault but still

Sorry you're broken, little bitch.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
^^^^ I really wanna know who this dude was before they got banned and reregistered.

I still wanna know more about precision's Ming theory. It's Ming!!

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

Fallen Rib

Escobarbarian posted:

^^^^ I really wanna know who this dude was before they got banned and reregistered.

I still wanna know more about precision's Ming theory. It's Ming!!

Ming was my favorite part of the whole show.

Actually, I was surprised at just how well done the mystery was. There were a few moments that made me laugh out loud like the suspect card that Sam made for Peter ("Motive: loves xoxo") and the hand job recreation.

I will say, the whole thing is extremely accurate to the high school experience, and this show was extremely well cast. I found the last episode to be genuinely moving, and I found myself really hating Shapiro after Dylan ended up throwing his second chance away.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

banned from Starbucks posted:

The concept was funny but after ep 2 i really couldnt give a poo poo about watching another one let alone 6 more or whatever.

I can see why someone would say this but it goes a lot of places you wouldn't expect it to. Starting with episode 4 there's a very significant "twist" (when it switches to "we've been showing this documentary as we film it")

As for Ming:

First off, he's the last guy you'd expect. Dude, it's Ming! He's from Canada! We're deliberately shown at least twice that he'll do anything under peer pressure (chugging alcohol).

A theory with a little more heft:

It was Dylan's big brother. He drives a tow truck so nobody would think it odd if he was hanging around the parking lot.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
For people down on Dylan, after the last episode, I think the show makes it pretty good case for why he'd act that way. Sure, the whole documentary effort lifted his spirits for a while, but it snaps back to reality when he sees everyone trashing him on film, which is then further exacerbated by him not being able to escape Oceanside. Like, the "documentary" even explicitly calls out the issue of him being treated as a gently caress up by pretty much everyone for so long, and the effect this could have had on him. In a more meta sense, it makes it obvious that there are real limits to what such a documentary can do for people - and how effective such individual attempts at justice are.

I don't think it's hard to argue either that the show is to a large degree about the issue of class and social heritage, and how hard it is to escape the role that society has imposed upon you. Sure, Dylan was proven innocent, that doesn't mean it was without cost for Dylan and his family - both in a monetary sense, but also in terms of Dylan's belief in his own future. Meanwhile, the authorities which put him through all this went entirely untouched, even when it was proven that the school had failed to live up to legally mandated poo poo. And obviously there's the very clear case of Shapiro hating on Dylan because of his brother, before he even had a chance to make a different impression. More generally on the class issue, just look at Dylan's (or his friend's) house compared to the house where the party is at. Or how his archenemy Shapiro is married to a doctor or some poo poo. Yes, Dylan is a gently caress up, but but if nearly everyone with the power to make him do better just dismissed him because of class signifiers then he never stood a chance.

Aside from that, the show also touches upon the topic of authority in general. Dylan is explicitly forced to prove his innocence, while Christa is allowed to do all her protests and poo poo when it doesn't threaten the authorities, but the moment she does do something that might have some consequences they bury the issue. Essentially, the reigning order will gently caress you the first chance they get, face no consequences for their actions, and even the people favored by the system aren't allowed the chance to make a difference when it really matters. All in all, the show is an indictment of the (eroding) liberal hegemony we live in - and the ideas it propagates; that awareness is the same as solving something, or that systemic issues can be tackled on a case by case basis. Good show.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Currently two episodes in and, based on an extensive background in Agatha Christie, my theories in order of descending likelihood are:

1.) The Spanish teacher and/or the school administration did it because she was tired of Dylan constantly disrupting student life. (This one seems too obvious, so it is probably wrong)
2.) Dylan's girlfriend did it to separate Dylan from the Wayback Boys, but aggressively miscalculated
3.) There's some kind of "Murder on the Orient Express" situation where everyone except Peter and his crew are in the know
4.) Peter did it... somehow? Maybe? Why's he reporting on this anyways?
5.) Pat Micklewaite

E5 Spoilers: YO, THIS DUDE JERKS OFF TO AMERICAN APPAREL CATALOGS!

E5 Spoilers 2: poor nana :(

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Sep 20, 2017

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
We did never find out who won the Hottest Nana Competition. Loose ends.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

E6: First off, I love the kids using their supporters to get back on campus. That was well done. I also love how accurately the show does high school drama. I love this dumb parody.

Regarding the mystery, I am almost positive that the USB drive is a red herring. For one, it's too obvious. Second, I cannot understand the motive of whomever gave the USB drive to the kids if the Coach is actually involved in the case. More likely, I think it is a ploy by the Spanish teacher to eliminate a rival at the school (she seemed pretty jazzed about her teacher of the year awards and I cannot imagine she was happy to see the Coach get it last year). I don't think it is related to the case.

I still go back to Dylan's girlfriend, who has spent the entire show in the background and has been consistently overlooked by Peter and company. She's got a motive in Dylan trashing her grandmother's house. She's got access to data files, via her relationship with Dylan. She has the capacity to edit the video because of her background on Twitch. She also knows Dylan's modus operandi well enough to frame him.

The only niggling detail is that Dylan claims to have been with her at the time. I'm not really sure why he would trick him unless he never went to his girlfriend's house at all. Even then, I'm not sure why he would lie about it unless he was doing something even more incriminating at the same time.


Hope Peter uses his celebrity status to get into a good college at the end of the show.

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Sep 20, 2017

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

QuoProQuid posted:

E6: First off, I love the kids using their supporters to get back on campus. That was well done. I also love how accurately the show does high school drama. I love this dumb parody.

Regarding the mystery, I am almost positive that the USB drive is a red herring. For one, it's too obvious. Second, I cannot understand the motive of whomever gave the USB drive to the kids if the Coach is actually involved in the case. More likely, I think it is a ploy by the Spanish teacher to eliminate a rival at the school (she seemed pretty jazzed about her teacher of the year awards and I cannot imagine she was happy to see the Coach get it last year). I don't think it is related to the case.

I still go back to Dylan's girlfriend, who has spent the entire show in the background and has been consistently overlooked by Peter and company. She's got a motive in Dylan trashing her grandmother's house. She's got access to data files, via her relationship with Dylan. She has the capacity to edit the video because of her background on Twitch. She also knows Dylan's modus operandi well enough to frame him.

The only niggling detail is that Dylan claims to have been with her at the time. I'm not really sure why he would trick him unless he never went to his girlfriend's house at all. Even then, I'm not sure why he would lie about it unless he was doing something even more incriminating at the same time.


Hope Peter uses his celebrity status to get into a good college at the end of the show.

E6: Not her grandmother's house, some other high schooler's

Zypher
Sep 3, 2009

Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!
Such a good TV show.

Shonen Waifu
Jun 29, 2003


I wanna thank you guys for convincing me to give this show a chance. This is the first thing I haven't spoiled for myself in, like, a decade or more & it's great. 2 more episodes to go & I'm pretty sure it's Ming. Dude's a stealth hellraiser.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Just finished.

In the end, it really was about the justice system. :negative:

Looking back at my previous post, one of my favorite things about this show was seeing the characters journey down the exact same lines of logic as myself. I was so completely suckered by Mackenzie that I didn't see the other evidence in front of me.

I also really like how we never find out what it was coach said.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

QuoProQuid posted:

Just finished.

In the end, it really was about the justice system. :negative:

Looking back at my previous post, one of my favorite things about this show was seeing the characters journey down the exact same lines of logic as myself. I was so completely suckered by Mackenzie that I didn't see the other evidence in front of me.

I also really like how we never find out what it was coach said.


Anybody who comes into my zone, gets laid out. That's what I do! I LAY PEOPLE OUT!

.... He was in my zone...

Rocksicles fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Sep 21, 2017

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Escobarbarian posted:

^^^^ I really wanna know who this dude was before they got banned and reregistered.

I still wanna know more about precision's Ming theory. It's Ming!!

Sorry about referencing poo poo from the show that's very good and almost universally liked.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
error 404, failed at internet.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
I'd be completely down if this became like an American Crime thing where each new season is a new absurd crime covered in detail.

Episode 2 is one of the funniest loving things I have ever seen, holy poo poo that recreation

OldTennisCourt fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Sep 21, 2017

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



I don't think it's particularly funny, but it never really tries to be, but it's quite amazing how invested I feel into this made up drama over dicks being drawn.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Every single person has had a teacher like Kraz

I honestly had to stop the show multiple times when he was on screen I was cringing so loving hard

I listen to Drake :smug:

OldTennisCourt fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Sep 21, 2017

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

OldTennisCourt posted:

Every single person has had a teacher like Kraz

I honestly had to stop the show multiple times when he was on screen I was cringing so loving hard

I listen to Drake :smug:

i love that he gets fired instantly for being the "cool" teacher

EL BROMANCE posted:

I don't think it's particularly funny, but it never really tries to be, but it's quite amazing how invested I feel into this made up drama over dicks being drawn.

this is exactly how i felt the whole show. i was laughing out loud really rarely but i just... had to know

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Kraz's actor seemed familiar to me but then I realized I've just known a lot of douchebags like him

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

precision posted:

Kraz's actor seemed familiar to me but then I realized I've just known a lot of douchebags like him

I thought it was Adam Pally for a hot minute.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
The fast food kid ruled.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

DivisionPost posted:

I thought it was Adam Pally for a hot minute.

I was like "Is that Stiffler?" before realizing Sean William Scott is too old

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

Fallen Rib

precision posted:

Kraz's actor seemed familiar to me but then I realized I've just known a lot of douchebags like him

He was the magician who dated Jess on New Girl if it helps.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



precision posted:

I was like "Is that Stiffler?" before realizing Sean William Scott is too old

Yeah that's who I went to as well despite the same reasoning/wouldn't make sense to have known people in it.

Has to be the facial hair.

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
China is a mysterious country~~~~~


I'm from Toronto

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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

OldTennisCourt posted:

The fast food kid ruled.

That was the fat kid that got the handjob right? Good for him.

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