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SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I'd be down if any spaces open up

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SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I feel like "ironically" trying to start a bandwagon is either 1) a person who doesn't realise they're actively aiding the scum or 2) scum trying to double their income in a way that's plausibly denial

Either way can we cut that poo poo out?

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Standard mafia practice: first day is a no-vote. Random voting (ESPECIALLY in early stages) has an extremely high chance of hitting the town. You need to build up a profile.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
You're going to get information from the moderator anyway -- somebody innocent is going to die and who they are tells you a lot. I mean if a random lynching happens, it happens and that's more data, but I'm not voting in it today.

I guess it's kinda a bad risk-reward? You double your data (from kills), but also half your window. There's a lot of data potentially lost, because the thread doesn't last as long and people aren't talking as much.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Huh, that checks out. It feels weird and unintuitive but numbers are numbers.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
re this:

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Yeah mea culpa. I've been in one mafia game ever (in GBS) and that's what happened, and everybody was just kinda like "yeah this is what we do"

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
ALRIGHT THIS IS WRITER MAFIA LET'S GIVE IT SOME WRITER JUICE

Mr Muffin, clad in yellow, tapped his pencil to his chin. "If a man is silent" he said, "he's either hiding something, or he's not helping. Either way, his loss is felt less keenly."

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I'm not really sure what you're basing the mojo thing on. You kept calling him 'corrupt' earlier and I kinda figured it was joke-phase stuff about him being a mod but I'd like to hear what you're thinking now.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Right now, I'm following QPQ's lead on this one. Not super happy about it but fingers crossed.

##vote Tyrannosaurus

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
well gently caress. I think I hammered Tyrann (VOTERFINDER LIED TO ME!!1 :argh:). If it's possible to change after the hammer, I'm down to go with that. Window is closing and we need to get somebody done.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Right. You kinda seem to know what's going on, but I'll hold fire for now. I'm still confused as to whether I dropped the hammer -- OP says no.

We've got just over 2.5 hours to make a decision.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I am still not sold on SH -- I saw a lot of targeting happen during jokevoting but I'm not seeing anything massively suspicious so far? She's been quiet I guess?


QuoProQuid posted:

i'd advise everyone to hold for mod clarification. i made my post without reading the most recent posts in the thread, which is generally a no-no.
yeah keeping my vote as-is until we can get Podima in here, at the very least. I was basing myself off the most recent Votercounter post but just realised that the counter in the OP does live updates

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
that count I posted does NOT update because I guess I hosed up the code somehow. Check the top of the OP.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

SurreptitiousMuffin posted:

that count I posted does NOT update because I guess I hosed up the code somehow. Check the top of the OP.
honestly right now I'm most sold on mojo's suspicions of exmond but we've already got a crazy split vote

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
oh god i didn't mean to quote myself

note to self: don't mafia immediately after waking up, before coffee, no not even if there's been almost 50 posts inthread since you last checked

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Okay we've got two-ish hours left and b-minus is -1. I'm gonna be here all morning, so I'll throw the hammer down at 7:59 EDT if we get there without changes/a decision -- just so we don't need to worry about rushing to prevent a no-lynch.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
FWIW, the thing I am most thinking is exmond

1) TD/CC poster, likely knows who mojo is
2) knows mojo is a huge threat based on that
3) was pushing a joking "hahaha what if we lynched somebody known in CC to be very clever and on-to-it on day 1 haha wouldn't that be crazy" way further than the joke needed

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Not his in-game role, just that he's super well known in this part of the forum and he's known for being really good at poo poo.

b-minus1 posted:

I mean. What more can I say? I've been tunneled since the beginning. Sure I can post a bunch of reads but it's freaking day one. I would look at everyone who voted for me, especially T. rex, SH.


What is this garbage? Congrats on being so eager to lynch me.
QPQ's numbers check out. I'm not 100% sold on you but I also see the arguments.

Exmond posted:

I think if anyone can protect QPQ they should? He seems knowledgeable and I think the town cop can protect?
Regardless of which side you're on, don't post stuff like this -- if you call somebody to protect, the scum are just going to target somebody else.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
First point in my post is re Mojo -- I got ninja'd a bunch.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

Exmond posted:

I uhh, I only post to Thunderdome and recently. (Well if 3 weeks can be considered recently).
Huh, saw the av and assumed it was longer. I just checked the TD archive, and this checks out. I am still suspicious of how far you took that joke but I haven't voted for you yet for a reason -- I think it's suspicious behaviour but not really enough to say anything concrete yet. The doctor call is also a kinda marginal case: it could be a scum play, or it could just be somebody new who doesn't realise you're not meant to do that.

For the sake of transparency, my mafia experience: one GBS game, but my ex is a goon lady who was super into forum games and talked about it sometimes. So most of my "THIS IS HOW GAMES OF FORUM MAFIA WORK" is based on a relationship that ended in 2012 -- I know I talk like an AUTHORITY but I am acutely aware that I might be misremembering or loving things up.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Yeah I'll hammer b-minus 1 min before the deadline. We've got less than an hour left -- any last-minute cases, make 'em.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
yeah it did pick it up -- check the OP. That's where the live counter is, and it shows you voting for b-minus.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Nope. I've got a fifth vote cued up if nothing major changes in the next 15 mins but the deadline is definitely closing.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Alrighty, hammertime.



Fingers crossed.

##vote b-minus1

Muffin paces the room, chews his fingernails. He picks a piece of lint from the lapels of his once-fashionable yellow jacket. The ends of his luxurious moustache twitch a little. He takes his vote to the box, and hovers over it for a moment.

"Moment of truth," he mutters to himself.

He casts the vote.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Okay call me crazy here, but I suspect Exmond less now. The Mojo murder seems like a really obvious ploy to get us to turn on him -- we were all on edge about him, then the guy he was accusing immediately went down? It's too perfect.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I'm still unhappy about the "doctor protect QPQ" thing but that tilts more heavily towards new player than scumtell.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

Tyrannosaurus posted:

##vote QuoProQuid
Gonna need to see more to back this up beyond "no gently caress u" because going after the person who successfully led us to our first mafia lynch seems suspicious as gently caress.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

Exmond posted:

Are you prepared as I break down the whole "Cop" reveal strategy. I'm not good at writing but I am good at math and stuff. QPQ do you want to comment on this as I trust you the most.
It ... seems to check out? I am tremendously bad with numbers though. I think the biggest issue there is that the doctor is probably hosed -- if the town starts calling for a lynch they might have to reveal, and if they reveal they're dead. "Town lynches doctor" absolutely shatters that framework and then we're worse off than we were before: down a cop and a doctor.

Also just a heads up: it's the election IRL where I am today, and I've been working as a campaign intern, and it's been a loving slobberknocker. I'm playing goon D&D this afternoon, then I'm getting blackout drunk. I'll try to lynch-vote before the party starts (whether it's a WE WON party or a WE LOST LET'S ERASE THIS MEMORY WITH ALCOHOL party) but then I might disappear for some time into an abyss of red wine and weeping. I'll try to get all my suspicions etc on the page long before then.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

Tyrannosaurus posted:


2) There is no real cop. We're playing with a jailkeeper who can reveal themselves. Town wins.
Uh, what? Why would we win if we had a jailkeeper?

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Right, sorry. Will get coffee and come back with a less fuzzy brain.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
hi guys I'm here, I'm just kinda hung over.

I gotta get some Chinese food or something but I'll try to get my thoughts together.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Okay got my sweet and sour pork, got my wontons. THOUGHTS.

I am suspicious of:

T-rex

FOR
1) has been talking very little, not really adding much
2) is acting suspicious as gently caress now the vote's turned on him (all "WOE IS ME" like bminus was)
3) hasn't been hammered yet

AGAINST
4) hasn't really said much to incriminate himself either.
5) lack of a hammer could be an intentional scum play? Either they've already voted or they're waiting for somebody else to vote so they get away with cleans hands. Current not voting: me, Exmond.

MIXED

6) supported the cop reveal (sort of)

Tyrannosaurus posted:

No, but if someone claims the cop erroneously then that means one of two things:

1) The real cop shows up. We now know its one of two people and we kill them sequentially. Town wins.
2) There is no real cop. We're playing with a jailkeeper who can reveal themselves. Town wins.

If the real cops claims and mafia fakeclaims jailkeeper, we still have it down to two people and we kill them sequentially. Town wins.

This only works because we managed to kill mafia on day 1

Exmond

FOR
1) quarrelled with Mojo, Mojo died. On further consideration, I don't think "TOO OBVIOUS" holds a massive amount of weight -- you're working under the assumption all scum are Machiavellian geniuses when they're just forum posters like you and me.
2) public call for a doctor protect, which is scummy as hell.

AGAINST

3) has been putting in a lot of good scumhunting work today. Solid numbers and strategy, doesn't strike at all like scum behaviour.

MIXED
4) supported (and initially had the idea for?) the cop reveal.

right now I'm leaning Trex but I could change my mind dammit Trex you ain't no bitch, just fight

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
these have been a few of my hungover thoughts.

supplemental: did my tongue always feel hairy or is that something that happens when the alcohol wears off?

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Well that was disappointing. Beaten on basically a random hunch, without getting to respond because the entire third day happened while I was asleep IRL. :(

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Checking out the spec doc.

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Can I talk in observerchat?

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Oh right yeah.

For the record, this is my second SA mafia game -- the first was in GBS in (I'm gonna saaaay) 2011?

SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Sep 26, 2017

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SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
excuse me i am a poo poo poster not a shitposter get it right

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