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esquilax
Jan 3, 2003

Contact tracing was at about 30% when phase 3 hit, and based on the fact that I cant find any newer stats I'd guess they are still well below the 90% even after the increase in funding and hiring.

That's a legitimate point, so you should probably focus on that instead of saying there's been a spike in IL cases that does not exist.

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brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


There has been a plateau and now a very slight tick upward. Nobody said spike but you.

Blatantly ignoring our own self-imposed goals in a rush to open'r up doesn't give me much faith in the situation we'll face 4-6 weeks from now.

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

I honestly think that the underlying assumption has been that once we hit phase 4 the Cook County region is going to get busted back into phase 3 or even 2 pretty quickly. As hosed up as it sounds I think the administration needs the leverage of being able to point to the fact that there's the possibility of going back up to be like "See?! See?! We told you!"

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009

brugroffil posted:

We were supposed to have widespread contact tracing for phase 4.

Where is it?

LSNA hired a bunch of people to do Spanish-language tracing starting June 1st. It's done remotely so it won't be visible.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
So it's weird being at ground zero for local political poo poo, but here goes.

In town here, there is an extremely ~decorum~ and very "old white lady" center-left group. It fragmented over BLM protests when one of the admins was super lovely about it. So our local socialist ward alderwoman, Jenn Carrillo, started up a further left group. This part may seem irrelevant, but bear with me. (Jenn is loving awesome, btw, and the local conservatives and centrists lose their loving minds about her weekly.)

So back when this went down, someone on the new group decided to start a "boycott list" for local businesses that are racist, vile, vocal in their Trump support, etc. It has all of like 26 businesses on it, including a real estate firm run by none other than our local Republican Party Chair.

Well, somehow local conservatives got wind of it and lost their loving minds. They've been melting down about it for three loving weeks. Mostly, they're blaming the Jenn, who has basically nothing to do with it apart from being the group admin.

So today, our Republican Party Chair held a loving emergency press conference about this extremely important boycott list. And, well, it was a shitshow. It's crazy watching the conspiracy theories spin up in real time.

https://www.wglt.org/post/gop-chair-raises-concerns-business-boycott-list#stream/0

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

dwarf74 posted:

So it's weird being at ground zero for local political poo poo, but here goes.

In town here, there is an extremely ~decorum~ and very "old white lady" center-left group. It fragmented over BLM protests when one of the admins was super lovely about it. So our local socialist ward alderwoman, Jenn Carrillo, started up a further left group. This part may seem irrelevant, but bear with me. (Jenn is loving awesome, btw, and the local conservatives and centrists lose their loving minds about her weekly.)

So back when this went down, someone on the new group decided to start a "boycott list" for local businesses that are racist, vile, vocal in their Trump support, etc. It has all of like 26 businesses on it, including a real estate firm run by none other than our local Republican Party Chair.

Well, somehow local conservatives got wind of it and lost their loving minds. They've been melting down about it for three loving weeks. Mostly, they're blaming the Jenn, who has basically nothing to do with it apart from being the group admin.

So today, our Republican Party Chair held a loving emergency press conference about this extremely important boycott list. And, well, it was a shitshow. It's crazy watching the conspiracy theories spin up in real time.

https://www.wglt.org/post/gop-chair-raises-concerns-business-boycott-list#stream/0

Karla Marx is a very nice pseudonym.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost





And right underneath that story...

quote:

McLean County GOP Chair Raises Concerns About Vaccine Safety
By RYAN DENHAM • MAR 9, 2020

The chair of the McLean County Republican Party is urging her members to lobby against a bill that would require incoming sixth-graders to get the HPV vaccine that protects against certain cancers.

:lol: gently caress her!

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Piell posted:

Karla Marx is a very nice pseudonym.
Would be an a+ username

LabyaMynora posted:

And right underneath that story...


:lol: gently caress her!
Oh yeah she's complete trash.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

dwarf74 posted:

Would be an a+ username

Oh yeah she's complete trash.

They hate the idea of consequence free sex soooooo much.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
Maybe more NW Indiana but... Really, South Shore?

rrreaaallly?



Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

dwarf74 posted:

Maybe more NW Indiana but... Really, South Shore?

rrreaaallly?





the train people have betrayed us

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
If Biden can't get the train vote, were screwed.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


In Clay county, Tactical Vest Darren Bailey’s lawsuit will return to court this afternoon. (Yesterday, his lawyer is putting a lawsuit saying that school guidance like wearing masks are unconstitutional).

The Clay County GOP is having a get together at their office where they are offering drinks and air conditioning. Studies have shown that air conditioning helps spreads the virus.

Bailey is returning from Florida for this court case (they just announced 10,000 new cases in the last 24 hours) but his doctor says he is fine cause he was only there for 48 hours and he has no symptoms.

This region is so stupid.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

So instead of the 10 second rule for food on the floor, the virus has a 48 hour rule where you can't get it? That doctor is either very stupid, or paid very well to act stupid.

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

In Clay county, Tactical Vest Darren Bailey’s lawsuit will return to court this afternoon. (Yesterday, his lawyer is putting a lawsuit saying that school guidance like wearing masks are unconstitutional).

The Clay County GOP is having a get together at their office where they are offering drinks and air conditioning. Studies have shown that air conditioning helps spreads the virus.

Bailey is returning from Florida for this court case (they just announced 10,000 new cases in the last 24 hours) but his doctor says he is fine cause he was only there for 48 hours and he has no symptoms.

This region is so stupid.

Time to build a wall along I-80.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Apparently, local Chudge said that Pritzker had no right to do his original order and that public schools do not have the right to make students follow health guidelines.

Hopefully, the appellate court can take this quickly is dismiss it properly as BS.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
This is what you get when you elect judges.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


All that he wants is publicity and all local news organizations are more than happy to give it to him. No response from Pritzker’s office. No comment how other circuit courts have ruled the opposite. Just his propaganda.

NomChompsky
Sep 17, 2008

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Apparently, local Chudge said that Pritzker had no right to do his original order and that public schools do not have the right to make students follow health guidelines.

Hopefully, the appellate court can take this quickly is dismiss it properly as BS.

It's going to be held in an appeals court on Monday.

This is obviously a publicity stunt by Rep. Bailey, who is such a pathetic loving moron that he refused to wear a mask during session and Durkin, his own leader in the house, voted to kick him out. Nobody gives a poo poo about a Rep from Xenia getting his buddy in the court to okay his case, as he has okay'd so many of his bullshit cases. That's the arrangement.

Several other courts of the same power have already ruled in favor of the Governor's EO's. Only a higher court can rule on it now, but spoiler alert: the higher courts have already ruled in favor of the EO's. Sorry Darren, you're a dumb rube.

But he's gonna win an IL senate seat because lol Xenia.

Edit: Not to mention this is still a case about the stay at home order, which ended on June 1st. loving pathetic.

NomChompsky fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jul 3, 2020

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


He is getting exactly what he wants which is publicity. He drove around to different areas last night to proclaim Illinois “open for business”.

People may get hurt and this chucklefuck sees their bodies as stepping stones to success.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

So I assume he’s running for governor in a couple years?

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Oh yeah! That is his whole purpose right now. He has even gotten on Fox News by doing this.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
Did someone say that we're automatically enrolled in vote by mail for November, or did I imagine that?

esquilax
Jan 3, 2003

Soonmot posted:

Did someone say that we're automatically enrolled in vote by mail for November, or did I imagine that?

They sent applications to everyone they had on file (not EVERYONE everyone), but I believe you still have to apply. I got an email from local board of elections last week and had to actually fill out the form.

esquilax fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Jul 3, 2020

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Go to your county clerk's web page, probably an online registration available. There are for dupage and will, at least

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009

Soonmot posted:

Did someone say that we're automatically enrolled in vote by mail for November, or did I imagine that?

That was the plan until someone found out that it would mean everyone in Illinois' address would be public record (and on Votebuilder), including stalking victims and abused spouses.

There was supposed to be a fix on the way, but I think it didn't get addressed during the abbreviated legislative session.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

esquilax posted:

They sent applications to everyone they had on file (not EVERYONE everyone), but I believe you still have to apply. I got an email from local board of elections last week and had to actually fill out the form.

Yes, you still have to request the ballot, but you don’t need any reason why you are requesting a mail ballot. Put your request in now and ballots get sent in October.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


I know that several of the posters in here live In Chicago so I am hoping that there is some idea here. I have been reading about the escalating violence in Chicago over the last few weeks.

Is there any particular reason for the uptick? Is it just people being outdoors more (out of quarantine or weather)? Is there some recent history between gangs that has led to this moment?

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Violence always upticks in the summer. More people outside, it’s hot, tempers flare because a lot of places in lower income neighborhoods don’t have A/C, schools out so kids are roaming the streets unsupervised, and all the usual summer activities are cancelled, can’t even go cool off at the movies or the mall. Bunch of hot bored angry people looking for something to do, some are gonna look for trouble, some are gonna find it. And hell for all we know cops have declared open season to nip this defund the police crap in the bud.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin
Another reason why you see escalating violence in Chicago is because of failed Federal policy. The idea was that if you went after the heads of the gangs the infrastructure would collapse and you would see not only less violence but fewer gangs and gang related activity.

What has happened has been the exact opposite. Without leadership the various sects have little oversight and direction. They frequently war with each other and often over the slightest provocations.

Really the only real way to combat gang violence is to have major investment into the neighborhoods and communities. If the amount of money that is used to fund the CPD for example was used to fund investment into the South and West sides you would see crime fall sharply as the root causes of the crime would start to vanish.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Yea, I can only add a little to what others have said, but there is always an uptick in gun violence in the summer, and especially so around the holiday weekends because people are just out more. Income inequality is a huge factor in violent crime, and the best way to battle it is to make these thriving economic communities. A lot of this violence is from people with not a whole lot to lose, job prospects suck, they are more likely to have dropped out of school early, and are making money illegally.

Gun violence is also reciprocal. One guy gets shot, which causes someone else to get shot in retaliation. There's even evidence that we can somewhat predict gun violence using social media as you can see the ripples of one shooting reach out to other people, who get angry, and then react.

The solution is hard, involves money, and a lot of time investment, which is why it doesn't get done. Instead we throw cops at the problem, which we know doesn't solve anything, but we keep doing it anyway. Defund the police and reinvest that money directly into the community and we can see actual gun violence drop.

Source4Leko
Jul 25, 2007


Dinosaur Gum
Violence in the city always sharply peaks when it gets warm out, when I lived in the city with my friends we never went out the first two nice weekends of the year. As other posters have said there is nothing for anyone to do now also.

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that
Oh hey, look at that.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/0...wDKclqrqVON15t8

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


A few bad apples

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.


loving burn it all down. The police are not hear to help us.

In COVID news, we had 980 new cases today, the most we've had in a month. Hope this is just lots of tests happening after the long holiday, and not a trend. It's hard to not to see an uptick from the end of June to now. We were on a downward trend until June 23rd or so, and there's been a slow but steady climb since then.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

That's why positivity rate is worth looking at too, it helps illustrate how increased testing is influencing the numbers.

Illinois has been at 2.5%-2.7% for a couple weeks now. There's a clear upward trend in number of tests too:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/illinois

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

I'd really love to believe that but I'm not sure how we can do the same opening up of restaurants and bars for indoor dining and not eventually see the spike other states saw when they did the exact same thing.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

xzzy posted:

That's why positivity rate is worth looking at too, it helps illustrate how increased testing is influencing the numbers.

Illinois has been at 2.5%-2.7% for a couple weeks now. There's a clear upward trend in number of tests too:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/illinois

Thanks for that data source, it really does make Illinois look exceedingly smart. Most other states are seeing an upward trend in that positivity rate. I hope that if we start to see an increase there, we are quick to correct course.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

xzzy posted:

That's why positivity rate is worth looking at too, it helps illustrate how increased testing is influencing the numbers.

Illinois has been at 2.5%-2.7% for a couple weeks now. There's a clear upward trend in number of tests too:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/illinois

Thanks, that's a handy source. Hopefully we can stay at or below that level now that we're firmly into phase 4. At least Illinois' phase 4 is not nearly as wide open as some other states. I don't think we're moving past 25% capacity in restaurants until phase 5, which really won't happen for a while. Places like FL and TX were going to like 50% capacity, I think Indiana is already there.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Let's just hope those dirty jerks from Indiana stay on their side of the border because their chart is not looking good.

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