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navyjack
Jul 15, 2006

If I win, I get to be a king. If I lose, I get to be a legend!!


Rocksicles posted:

I'm not looking that word up, gently caress you.

Classic Shellstrop move

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Hughlander
May 11, 2005



Rocksicles posted:

I'm not looking that word up, gently caress you.

I took the hit for you...
1. relating to Manichaeism

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011


If extrapolate logically from the trolley problem, it becomes clear that if we kill one-sixth of the world's population, the rest will live forever.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Schur is on record as saying that while there may be a few small twists here and there(i.e. janet malfunctioning, michael torturing on the sly) the big huge end season twists arent something that should be expected every year. I'm happy he feels this way because if the whole show was predicated on trying to figure out what the next big reveal is it would never actually go anywhere. This season addressed that issue by compressing a bunch of micro seasons in a few episodes but I'd like some forward momentum for a bit longer than s1 did now that we know whats really going on.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012



I don't even really need more forward momentum, though thinking about Team Cockroach overthrowing this bullshit Good Place/Bad Place hierarchy is exciting as some kind of endgame even if I have no idea how we'd get there. Just give me a few more episodes that are even close to how funny this one was and I'm good.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006



I think the main thing is, a good twist is one that provides new context for the story thus far and/or intriguing motivation for storylines to come. A bad twist is one that undermines the story and leaves no opportunity for follow-up.

A lot of the twists people keep suggesting here are bad because they're built on negation. "No, nothing we've been told about the nature of the Good/Bad Places has been accurate. No, the season 1 finale twist wasn't true after all. No, Eleanor's not dead, she's just in a coma and Michael is a popcorn mascot she saw on the grocery store shelf."

These kinds of reveals would kill the show dead, instead of adding new dimensions the way the S1 finale twist did.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012



One thing I'd like to say is that from the preview clips before the show first premiered I wasn't totally sold on Janet and I cannot believe how utterly wrong I was.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007



Arist posted:

I don't even really need more forward momentum, though thinking about Team Cockroach overthrowing this bullshit Good Place/Bad Place hierarchy is exciting as some kind of endgame even if I have no idea how we'd get there. Just give me a few more episodes that are even close to how funny this one was and I'm good.

I don’t even see that as a twist, Eleanor has been saying as much since the middle of the first season or so

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.

Supercar Gautier posted:

"No, Eleanor's not dead, she's just in a coma and Michael is a popcorn mascot she saw on the grocery store shelf."

This is actually pretty hilarious though and totally in character for Eleanor

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013



Its all a Sims videogame, and the camera pulls out and reveals Jason is the player.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die

Snooze Cruise posted:

Its all a Sims videogame, and the camera pulls out and reveals Jason is the player.

A HUNGRY MOUTH
Nov 3, 2006

BITING OFF MORE



Slippery Tilde

Supercar Gautier posted:

Chidi, as an example, went to the Bad Place because his neuroses hurt other people. He is essentially in hell for having a mental illness.

What that means is: the system that sorts people into the Good/Bad places is cruel and hosed up. The Bad Place and the real Good Place (whatever it's actually like) are both completely on board with this cruel and hosed up system. Does the system use points? Well, that fits in with how cruel and hosed up it is, so sure! This is how the afterlife works and whatever divine authourity governs it is cool with all of it.

If the points turned out to be a lie, then that just means the system uses a different cruel and hosed up sorting method than points, which would not be an interesting twist because it would not change or recontextualize anything.

An eternal sentence based on a finite observation period is hosed up no matter how you slice it.

Supercar Gautier posted:

" [...] Michael is a popcorn mascot she saw on the grocery store shelf."

Yeah I kind of want this to be the final dramatic zoom-in of the series now.

LORD OF BOOTY
Feb 11, 2015

THEY MAKE SURE YOU AIN'T BOOTY!!!


So uh... apparently this show's ratings are Not Great. It is getting absolutely hosed by Thursday Night Football.

Should I be worried about possibly not getting a third season of this?

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

So uh... apparently this show's ratings are Not Great. It is getting absolutely hosed by Thursday Night Football.

Should I be worried about possibly not getting a third season of this?

NBC's threshold for canceling shows is extremely low, as they don't get good ratings in general (Even Will&Grace, the Thursday night tentpole, isn't doing too well).

Parks&Rec, as an example, did about this in ratings most seasons too, and it lasted 8 seasons.

pwn
May 27, 2004

This Christmas get "Shoes"



From Lost Thread phase to Community Thread Phase in one post. That was a, uh, fascinating transition. Damnit

Effort Edit: NBC, while still a corporation which longs for profits, does care about legacy and quality. Examples include Community, 30 Rock, Carmichael Show. And I think they’re relieved to finally have re-created Must-See TV Thursday nights without resorting to magic

pwn fucked around with this message at Oct 21, 2017 around 20:21

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

It did a 1.1 rating in the key demo for last week's live viewing, and I'm sure picks up a bunch more in L+3 and +7. It's doing fine for a half hour sitcom in the modern peak tv landscape.

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013


I imagine the Hulu streaming also factors into its ratings and reception with NBC, too.

clown shoes
Jul 17, 2004

Nothing but clowns down here.

It's also a big hit on Netflix so even if NBC cancels it maybe Netflix would pick it up.

precision
May 7, 2006

Double great.


I'd imagine it's not the most expensive show to make, either.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~


It's no Game of Thrones, but all the CG for the imaginative torture scenes probably adds up and makes it costlier than a lot of more grounded shows I would think.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.


Grimey Drawer

I'm sure it adds up, but the cg in this show is like... only passable because it's a comedy.

precision
May 7, 2006

Double great.


Yeah and we just had two episodes in a row that were bottle episodes (aside from a couple diversions in Trolley)

They get a lot of use out of the existing sets and if they ever need to cut the CG budget I doubt the humor would suffer.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
AM I??


Grimey Drawer

Rocksicles posted:

I'm not looking that word up, gently caress you.

It's a perfectly cromulent word.

Senor Tron
May 25, 2006

send em back to Islamistan or some shit

clown shoes posted:

It's also a big hit on Netflix so even if NBC cancels it maybe Netflix would pick it up.

Wish Netflix released numbers, but it's airing on Netflix the day after America and anecdotally I know a bunch of people hooked.

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


As far as I'm aware, it's only behind This Is Us and Will & Grace in the demo for NBC. It's probably fine.

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