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A Wizard of Goatse posted:four year old ain’t pulling the trigger on no double action either grandma rolls cocked and unlocked It's a good thing we no longer have to worry about the hulked-out toddler who pulled a 12lb trigger
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Sep 21, 2017 23:59
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I look forward to the woman receiving no reprocussions like that guy in Colorado Springs who shot his step daughter to death when she snuck in the house
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Sep 22, 2017 00:00
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Are there revolvers with safeties? I know that a revolver would be the most reliable handgun to have in a self-defense/home-defense situation, for if the weapon jams or misfires you simply squeeze the trigger again, but what of the actual safety on a revolver? I only know hanzo steel you see.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:00
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Hollywood is chastised for being liberal, among other things, but they have done so much for the second amendment.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:01
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Bob NewSCART posted:No this is why you don’t walk around with loaded weapons I'm carrying one right now, if only there were some curious toddlers nearby...
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Sep 22, 2017 00:01
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Mr.Tophat posted:Are there revolvers with safeties? I know that a revolver would be the most reliable handgun to have in a self-defense/home-defense situation, for if the weapon jams or misfires you simply squeeze the trigger again, but what of the actual safety on a revolver? I only know hanzo steel you see. Germany made a single-action revolver with a safety. Model 1879 Reichrevolver. Built like an absolute brick shithouse and will basically never, ever fail to function and you'd have to be TRYING to kill yourself real hard to make it "accidentally" go off. If only the grandma had one of these, things could have been different:  But for modern revolvers, I got nothing.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:04
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EorayMel posted:But for modern revolvers, I got nothing. I researched (quickly googled) it and I was surprised how wrong I had it. I guess they don't.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:06
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...and the pitch! posted:Hollywood is chastised for being liberal, among other things, but they have done so much for the second amendment. Yeah, people talk about gun laws but our gun culture is a large part of the problem. How many movies and TV shows revolve around one man who must defend his family from a horde of undesirables with a gun? Not only does a lot of media glorify vigilante justice but it also has a tendency to grossly oversimplify crime. The world is just good guys who would never do anything wrong vs bad guys who love murder and rape. I don't think violent media makes people more violent, but it certainly shapes their perception of the world and western media loves playing off of distrust and paranoia of strangers when most crimes take place between people who know each other. I forget where I came across the study, but I remember reading about repetition in the media and the effect it has on the audience's worldview. People who witness a lot of violence on television see the world as being more dangerous than it really is. RobotDogPolice fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Sep 22, 2017 00:08
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Who keeps candy in a purse anyway? Grandmas know it will just collect lint and random perfume smells if kept in a purse.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:11
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EorayMel posted:Germany made a single-action revolver with a safety. Model 1879 Reichrevolver. Built like an absolute brick shithouse and will basically never, ever fail to function and you'd have to be TRYING to kill yourself real hard to make it "accidentally" go off. That gun looks excellent...but it's rather surprising to see that this was the first gun mentioned when it comes to revolver safety. A weapon from almost a hundred and fourty years ago. God drat. Surely a gun company would combine the need for a reliable self-defense/home-defense weapon AND the need for a weapon that only discharge once the user has consciously committed to the action by now, they'd sell gangbusters. I suppose you'd have to point out the need for such a device in the advertising though....little Timmy can blow his head clean off with those other handguns with nary a worry, so use our product instead! If I was an entrepreneur, I would tackle this market.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:13
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castle doctrine strikes again
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Sep 22, 2017 00:21
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22 years old, kid is suddenly gone, sounds like this dude dodged a bullet
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Sep 22, 2017 00:21
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lol I smelled florida on this one
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Sep 22, 2017 00:23
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Mr.Tophat posted:That gun looks excellent...but it's rather surprising to see that this was the first gun mentioned when it comes to revolver safety. A weapon from almost a hundred and fourty years ago. God drat. guns arent like bottles of nitroglycerine, ready to go up at a moments notice. you already have to go through several steps to get them into party mode e, besides, this stuff exists already on some models. the 1911 dovetail safety for example
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Sep 22, 2017 00:26
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Mr.Tophat posted:That gun looks excellent...but it's rather surprising to see that this was the first gun mentioned when it comes to revolver safety. A weapon from almost a hundred and fourty years ago. God drat. There's nothing "unreliable" about modern automatics, and there's just not that much overlap between the highly safety-conscious and the people who want to role play Wyatt Earp
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Sep 22, 2017 00:26
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Blue Raider posted:guns arent like bottles of nitroglycerine, ready to go up at a moments notice. you already have to go through several steps to get them into party mode How did this four year old shoot herself then lol
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Sep 22, 2017 00:28
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"Guns aren't already ready to go man. You have to like, put the clip in"
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Sep 22, 2017 00:29
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Bob NewSCART posted:How did this four year old shoot herself then lol because it was sitting there, ready to go. the grandma was unsafe about it the poster i was replying to seems to think guns are fiendishly unpredictable contraptions which is not the case
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Sep 22, 2017 00:29
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Mr.Tophat posted:That gun looks excellent...but it's rather surprising to see that this was the first gun mentioned when it comes to revolver safety. A weapon from almost a hundred and fourty years ago. God drat. It also has a really heavy/stubborn hammer and trigger, so it takes plenty of effort to fire the drat thing even when it's ready. But yeah, revolvers with safeties never caught on because of the stages you can cock the hammer to act as its safety. That position is typically un/half-cocked position because if the hammer trips, it won't have enough force to strike a cartridge and fire the bullet. Usually. Cowboys used to rest the hammer on an empty chamber (Dirty Harry's walking around with 5 shots in his gun in his pocket, not 6!), then when the hammer was fully cocked the cylinder would spin from the empty chamber to a loaded one. Modern revolvers will usually have an extra piece or two to make it so you can have 6 "safely" stored without it going off if you drop it. And now I'm imagining a "we switched their Folger's coffee with our brand, let's watch their reactions!" commercial, but with guns.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:30
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revolvers are made to cull the stupidest part of the gun toting population who wants to show off at the expense of safety it is very unfortunate that their family members also suffer from their dumb decisions
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Sep 22, 2017 00:30
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There are modern revolvers with safeties. Not many but they're out there. Seriously, though, buy a gun with a safety or, if you're a gun manufacturer, build a safety into your gun.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:31
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Bob NewSCART posted:How did this four year old shoot herself then lol EorayMel posted:It also has a really heavy/stubborn hammer and trigger, so it takes plenty of effort to fire the drat thing even when it's ready. But yeah, revolvers with safeties never caught on because of the stages you can cock the hammer to act as its safety. That position is typically un/half-cocked position because if the hammer trips, it won't have enough force to strike a cartridge and fire the bullet. Usually. 'The revolver was perfectly safe because of the heavy trigger pull. Oh she pulled the hammer back and then the gun went kablammo? Oh well the 4-year-old should've known better. That's reckless gun safety!'
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Sep 22, 2017 00:34
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Devils Affricate posted:22 years old, kid is suddenly gone, sounds like this dude dodged a bullet Guess it wasn't genetic.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:36
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Right. My grandma carries around century-old German budget revolvers with a safety clocking in at double-digit pounds, doesn't yours? 
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Sep 22, 2017 00:39
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[quote="“EorayMel”" post="“476632265”"] My grandma carries around century-old German budget revolvers with a safety clocking in at double-digit pounds, doesn’t yours? [/quote] me gran uses rapid fire paperwork to defeat her enemies
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Sep 22, 2017 00:40
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Sjs00 posted:Why wasn't that poo poo unloaded and on safety Because it's hard to defend yourself with an unloaded gun. I mean you could throw it at someone but that's not really much of deterrent.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:42
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Blue Raider posted:guns arent like bottles of nitroglycerine, ready to go up at a moments notice. you already have to go through several steps to get them into party mode Several steps that can be performed by a child fumbling for candy. People have guns that are ready to party. It's irresponsible, certainly, but the mindset of, "I want it ready to defend myself/my home" is understandable. I don't condone it, I'm just trying to see how this kind of thing could be avoided. Thank you for the gun suggestion, although when I google such a thing it wants to correct me to beavertail?  A Wizard of Goatse posted:There's nothing "unreliable" about modern automatics, and there's just not that much overlap between the highly safety-conscious and the people who want to role play Wyatt Earp Indeed, but if your needs are simple, then why introduce mechanics that could cause failure? Revolvers are the most reliable handgun. If I was gunna buy a gun for my home, I'd want the most reliable tool for the job. Keep it simple stupid. I'd imagine that semi-automatics would require more maintenance. EorayMel posted:It also has a really heavy/stubborn hammer and trigger, so it takes plenty of effort to fire the drat thing even when it's ready. But yeah, revolvers with safeties never caught on because of the stages you can cock the hammer to act as its safety. That position is typically un/half-cocked position because if the hammer trips, it won't have enough force to strike a cartridge and fire the bullet. Usually. Neat stuff about the cowboys. I can appreciate that these are elements of safety. But if a child picks up a revolver, I'd put good money on that they would understand from media how to pull the hammer back and pull the trigger. You can argue the point a little, but if you give a kid a toy pump action shotgun, they'll sure as poo poo pump it and make a sound effect while they do it without being told that's what you do. It's gunna be difficult for a kid to pull the lever back, sure, but not impossible (depending on how strong/weak a child is). Not saying that it's an ineffective safety of sorts, but it's hardly infallible. I don't have a horse in this race, I just thought there should be a more reliable safety that a child doesn't understand or accidentally release when it comes to revolvers. If I was a parent and I was gunna buy a gun, my priority would be, "I don't want a tool that could be used by my child if they get their hands on it." It's weird that there isn't more of a market for this viewpoint, but again, it would need that market to point out that many children cause fatalities and injuries with firearms in America. I guess you want to be arguing about which ammunition to buy rather than which kind of gun not to buy.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:49
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Autos don't really require any maintenance unless you're actively shooting them in which case they just need cleaned and oiled occasionally. Which is 90% of the fun of gun ownership because you can oil up your Glock and your cock and jerk it while watching Charles Bronson movies.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:52
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the surest sign you’ve never handled a firearm in your life is arguing that firearms are intuitive to handle
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Sep 22, 2017 00:52
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:the surest sign you’ve never handled a firearm in your life is arguing that firearms are intuitive to handle Wow, pulling a trigger, such nuance
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Sep 22, 2017 00:54
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I bet all these redneck idiots with guns all have astrophysics degrees in order to comprehend the subtleties of "load weapon with bullets, shoot weapon"
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[quote="“Bob NewSCART”" post="“476632680”"] Wow, pulling a trigger, such nuance [/quote] you don’t have to stumble over yourself into a thread to prove me right lmao
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Sep 22, 2017 00:54
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This is surely something no child could do and accidentally kill themselves doing, like in the OP I made.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:55
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:you don’t have to stumble over yourself into a thread to prove me right lmao for real lol
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[quote="“Bob NewSCART”" post="“476632722”"] This is surely something no child could do and accidentally kill themselves doing, like in the OP I made. [/quote] good poo poo thank goodness that’s not what i was saying at all lmbo
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Sep 22, 2017 00:57
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:the surest sign you’ve never handled a firearm in your life is arguing that firearms are intuitive to handle I've fired and hunted with shotguns. Pulling a trigger = big bang. That's pretty simple to understand, and kids have seen Elmar Fudd try and shoot that wascally wabbit before. It involves pulling a trigger. If a firearm is unloaded, I agree with you. A kid would have to put extra steps into it and have to have to mindset of, "I want to load this gun," not "this is cool, bang bang," with their newfound lethal toy. scrubs season six posted:Autos don't really require any maintenance unless you're actively shooting them in which case they just need cleaned and oiled occasionally. Which is 90% of the fun of gun ownership because you can oil up your Glock and your cock and jerk it while watching Charles Bronson movies. Alrighty, thanks for the information.
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Sep 22, 2017 00:58
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Mr.Tophat posted:I've fired and hunted with shotguns. Pulling a trigger = big bang. That's pretty simple to understand, and kids have seen Elmar Fudd try and shoot that wascally wabbit before. It involves pulling a trigger. pretty much but i also meant handling a firearm in the sense of doing it safely. for some reason pretty logical things like “don’t point at your foot, at people, keep safety on” come very difficult to us human beings in general
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Sep 22, 2017 01:03
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:pretty much but i also meant handling a firearm in the sense of doing it safely. for some reason pretty logical things like “don’t point at your foot, at people, keep safety on” come very difficult to us human beings in general Oh! In this instance I agree with you. A firearm is intuitive to use (to simply discharge the weapon), but requires mindfulness and diligence to use responsibly when you are handling the weapon, both for your own safety and those around you.
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1gnoirents posted:I hate to be a buzzkill but this happens like daily OP "this is fine" -america
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