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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Discovery would have been a good show if they had glued some jelly beans to some plywood painted black.

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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

The icequake is a cover-up







Cojawfee posted:

Discovery would have been a good show if they had glued some jelly beans to some plywood painted black.
Ooh ooh I also wish to mock an argument literally no one is making!

Uhhhh


Discovery would have been better if it was filmed in 4:3 aspect ratio

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!


PostNouveau posted:

I think they knew that, and that's why there's a big "Hey! Look over here! It's the Enterprise!" at the end.

Hey remember when the Federation was nearly destroyed by the Klingons 10 years ago? Huh, no?
And for some reason the Enterprise was a few minutes warp from undefended Earth but wasn't doing anything I guess.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Tell him about the Twinkie.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Sovereign looks fine in First Contact and Insurrection but the cg aztecing and textures in Nemesis are atrocious. That design looks far better when it isn’t painted in black and charcoal grey.

It’s also very dependent on getting that perfect angle shot.

Yeah, the Sovereign has very few good angles, primarily due to how flat it is overall. (In fairness, even the Galaxy doesn't have the ability to look good from any angle and from some it looks downright hideous, unlike the 1701 Refit.)

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die

Taear posted:

Hey remember when the Federation was nearly destroyed by the Klingons 10 years ago? Huh, no?
And for some reason the Enterprise was a few minutes warp from undefended Earth but wasn't doing anything I guess.

They had a really weird energy reading they just had to check out.

I mean, I don't think it's a bad idea. I'd rather have nerds talking about if they like or don't like the new Enterprise model than talking about how badly I botched the finale.

The Golden Gael
Nov 12, 2011



Frionnel posted:

I'm honestly glad they didn't go further with the 2006 CGI. It's supposed to belong in TOS, not show "a modern vision of a starship" that would have clashed with everything else in the show.

It's definitely more appropriate for that show given the instances of the real model appearing on set in some episodes (I think it gets shrunk an trapped in a crystal block at one point?). Would have been nice if they could have reshot the scenes with real models.

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

PARTY ON, GARTH OF IZAR


The Sovereign looks cool when you're 9 but as you get older and you learn the difference between "cool" and "kewl" it loses a lot of it's luster

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010





Tighclops posted:

The Sovereign looks cool when you're 9 but as you get older and you learn the difference between "cool" and "kewl" it loses a lot of it's luster

Does anyone have pics of it from STO with like TOS material textures? I am looking at it and my only real beef with it is the Aztecing

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

PARTY ON, GARTH OF IZAR


Honestly just look at pictures of the filming miniature (one of the last they built for Star Trek) from First Contact, they gave it the same pearlecent-white sheen the 1701 refit model from TMP had and it looked great.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010





Tighclops posted:

Honestly just look at pictures of the filming miniature (one of the last they built for Star Trek) from First Contact, they gave it the same pearlecent-white sheen the 1701 refit model from TMP had and it looked great.

The aztecing looks awful considering it has enough character from panels and stuff not to need basically grey digital camo spots all over it

edit: look at the TOS enterprise model in the smithsonian, the shading and grid pattern really do enuf for it

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I just *LOVE* spoonheads

shovelbum posted:

Does anyone have pics of it from STO with like TOS material textures? I am looking at it and my only real beef with it is the Aztecing

Only certain ships in STO can use the TOS textures and the Sovereign isn't one of them.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005




The Golden Gael posted:

Obviously the ship is going to need to fit the newer aesthetic of the DISCO design or it will stick out.

Literally the exact opposite of this.

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

PARTY ON, GARTH OF IZAR


shovelbum posted:

The aztecing looks awful considering it has enough character from panels and stuff not to need basically grey digital camo spots all over it

edit: look at the TOS enterprise model in the smithsonian, the shading and grid pattern really do enuf for it

Honestly they went with the look you're going for with the lovely CG model they built for Insurrection and it looked flat and cartoony as hell

Like, there's a happy medium between "overbusy gunmetal and raised panel lines everywhere" that seems to be the in thing right now and just looking like a low poly texture model from Beast Wars or something

The thing with the TMP style paint job is that each hull panel isn't really a different colour, it just has a different sheen over it so when the light catches it only then do you really see the detail in the reflection which then suggests scale; as the movies progressed and ILM switched to a simpler lighting rig they just flattened all that work and sadly most of the effect was lost.

Then years later you have horrible mistakes like the 4 foot Ent-D minature they built for the 3 or 4th season of TNG that had the panel lines physically modeled so they whole thing ends up looking like a chunky duplo sculpture in harsh lighting *shudders*

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

The original Enterprise looked like poo poo in the '60s let alone now.

The Golden Gael
Nov 12, 2011



I don't think he meant to say it looks like poo poo, but rather that it should be flushed away AS poo poo

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

The icequake is a cover-up







The Golden Gael posted:

I don't think he meant to say it looks like poo poo, but rather that it should be flushed away AS poo poo

Much like his posting

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


The Golden Gael posted:

I don't think he meant to say it looks like poo poo, but rather that it should be flushed away AS poo poo

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

Uh-huh!

*Jovial music*

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status:Perpetually fearful


Can I post as the tribble that ended up causing all the stations grain to be eaten? All I would have to do is eat all the food in my home. Including the rancid surströmming can I have yet to open.

Why cookie Rocket
Dec 2, 2003

Lemme tell ya 'bout your blood bamboo kid.
It ain't Coca-Cola, it's rice.

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

The icequake is a cover-up







Why cookie Rocket posted:

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

ymmv on humor obv

The pilot is the worst episode probably but of course introduces the characters

The dick jokes are heaviest in the first two or three episodes then it transitions to leaning heavy on the Trek and very light on the jokes. Probably something Seth had to do to sell the series to Fox.

It really does get quite good by the end and its looking like season 2 will be even better

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

PARTY ON, GARTH OF IZAR


I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want TNG with weed/dick/fart jokes

I don't want to understand them, I want a comfortable neutral zone between me and those humourless monsters




That said Orville plays it pretty straight the pilot's predictably weak but it pulls up from there, the best jokes are situational and if you don't see where they're going by like, maybe the 4th episode tops then I dunno

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS



Why cookie Rocket posted:

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

I don’t think there is a single dick or fart joke. A dog licks his balls in the background of one scene.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die

Why cookie Rocket posted:

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

It's not as frequent as you'd think for a Seth McFarlane show, but you probably wouldn't make it through a whole episode if you turned it off in a huff everytime there was a dick joke.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

The icequake is a cover-up







The Fuzzy Hulk posted:

I don’t think there is a single dick or fart joke. A dog licks his balls in the background of one scene.

And they point it out

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017



Watch the pilot, it is the worst episode but not terrible. Then watch a few more episodes and watch it get really good really fast.

Gorewar
Dec 24, 2004

Bang your head

McSpanky posted:

An undoubtedly terrible EU novel will posit that the Excelsior's transwarp drive was the spore drive.

I'm waiting for the novel where the Voyager crew discusses a spore drive or the Equinox gets retconned as a spore drive.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Watch 3 or 4 episodes at least. The Orville is good.

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mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016


Why cookie Rocket posted:

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

If you committed to watching the Train'Req called STD, go watch The Orville. Yes, McFarland is in it. Yes, there's humor, but it's character and situation based. And yes, the latter episodes are WAY better than the former.

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