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Lorca said all kinds of manipulative poo poo to the Discovery crew to get them to do what he wants. Maybe space jingoism is just step one of his 900 step plan to realpolitick his way into creating a liberal utopia where you don't constantly get stabbed in the kidneys all the the time. Like, maybe he's personally all in favour of emancipating the Kelpiens, but that poo poo doesn't play in Space Kentucky so he's gotta dogwhistle his way into the whitehouse before he can effect real change.

(Obviously, none of this is right.)

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Astroman posted:

I dunno if I'd say Sirtis was throwing shade as much as she was making a fair point...as one of the most prominent former and perhaps future CBS employees, she and the other former Star Trek actors should get free CBS All Access.

Still a gifting cockney urchin after all these years

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in the enlightened future, all potential sexual offenders will be given sufficient government trek to distract them from their unnatural desires

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Drink-Mix Man posted:

-Hearty LOL at the electric guitar sting underscoring the evil Klingon

I also enjoyed this. Other highlights were L'Rell's swank empress get up in her last scene and the Fu Manchu proto-TOS Klingon. Otherwise my feelings can be summarised as "this episode was certainly a sequence of events."

Snackmar posted:

I guess Sybok has been banished from Vulcan as a terrorist by this point? I wasn't expecting her to say something about how "the four of us never get together" (amanda, sarek, spock, michael), excluding Sybok

Who more likely to lead the life of an anti-logic terrorist than the childhood victim of a logic terrorist? Michael is Sybok.

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lol but seriously I posted:

calling that the red angel is tilly

1) Red hair/red angel foreshadowing
2) Goofy nerd turning out to be the mysterious godlike time traveller is enough against type that it comes across as an unexpected twist
3) Body shape roughly matches the silhouette
4) Tilly being a time traveller lets them use a popular character in The Picard Show synergy

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Big Mean Jerk posted:

Tilly doesn’t make any thematic sense to me, I don’t recall her and Burnham even discussing Spock so why would she appear to him as a child?

It’s 100% Burnham.

She appears to him because she finds out that it happened and she does not want to collapse the timeline.

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ashpanash posted:

If you can travel faster than light, then you violating causality, and therefore relativity is incorrect. Hey, I don't make the rules.

Some no account motherfuckers that don't even know about superluminal fungus ITT

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maybe the kelp people hatch from eggs or have a larval stage that is considered a different species

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maybe they have a pre-prey form that works like station out of bill & ted

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i like the orville but i think it is important to have a few haters in the room so things do not get too circle jerky. keep being you guy you're doing alright

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i think that i would even agree that the orville looks a bit cheap sometimes but i am all the way over high production values and special effects serviceable is perfectly serviceable IMO

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Chickenwalker posted:

I'm convinced it's L'rell based on the silhouette.

six tiny wheelchair pikes arranged in the manner of a woman

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like torso wheelchair pike, thicc left leg wheelchair pike etc all shrunk to bespoke size by precise exposure to the anomaly from "one little ship"

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FlamingLiberal posted:

Kurtzman is going to be more of a Rick Berman going forward

horrible thing to say about someone

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i thought this one was good once more i am out of step with the zeitgeist

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at first i found the reveal that the big trauma between burnham & spock was that she was mean to him that one time when they were kids somewhat underwhelming but then you have to recalibrate for the fact they are on and of vulcan. an open display of hostile emotion like that was like making GBS threads down his throat

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Thom12255 posted:

All this criticism about the fight scene and we're not calling out Pike calling the Enterprise a 'Star Vehicle' in old Trek, now that's bad dialogue.

i all the way love that they left that in also probably tilly said it once and tickled pike

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The only bad part is that she is not her normal self, and I loving hate that poo poo where an episode revolves around someone who has been compromised

i can respect this but ON THE OTHER HAND it is a proud trek tradition

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Powered Descent posted:


The Ugly:
- So, we finally learn the truth of the dark secret between Michael and Spock. The one that's been building up all season. The one that created a family rift that the writers played up SO MUCH that they had to go on Twitter to quash the fan speculation that it was a sex thing. And it turns out that Michael's horrible, unforgivable, family-bond-obliterating sin was... once when they were kids she said a mean thing to him. What the Christ? Did no one in the writers room ever have a brother or sister? Saying and doing mean things is what siblings DO.

they are vulcan tho. it is a whole different thing on vulcan

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tho i did think they were going to stop with the spore drive because it is killing the mushroom kingdom :thunk:

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it is not like TNGDS9VOYENT did not constantly gently caress around with the "prime" timeline we can have pike for as long as we want

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to preserve the timeline pike has to get hosed up but the red angel lets him live a full life and then takes him back to the moment he is predestined to get hawkin'd when he is like 80

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DaveKap posted:

So glad I'm not alone in that. Totally thought she was kissing Spock the first time I saw it lmao.

ash is tyler wrapped around voq wrapped around alternate future spock in a turducken fashion

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on the one hand, miriam receiving any kind of characterisation at all before today would have been good but on the other hand it does make for a good stand alone episode. also, was ray sabotaging the spore drive a thing before this week i do not recall it being?

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Nullsmack posted:

That had to have been the cheapest set ever.

Eh, just stick a couple of mirrors in a corridor.

well u see the enterprise has a number of modular design elements and so

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i'm a big old weirdo who thought that this was their best episode yet. all of the character interactions felt real real and of course in the evil gay universe gay people go even more gay that is hard sci fi just like the time crystal

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The plot of this one was a rickety tower of contrivances and the dialog has reverted to being so weirdo & unnaturalistic that it takes me out of the show. Shut-up Tilly, God Empress Georgiou and the very last scene were the high points of a very bad episode. Actually I also kinda liked robo-leland it was creepy. They really needed to do more to establish why they could not just blow up the sphere data I was NOT IMMERSED.

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Robot Style posted:

Or maybe the dude just wants to be ineligible for away missions, so he doesn't get devoured by some random energy being on Planet Soundstage.
lmao so good, this is canon now. Completely explains it.

throwing my lot in with team "pike i would love to but *gesticulates at wheelchair*"

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Drink-Mix Man posted:

Yes.

It's like Sisko being upset about racism in 1960's Las Vegas. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense up front,

i can get how sisko would be aggrieved that they had retconned his people's struggle out of existence. also there is no real reason fontaine had to be in actual 50s/60s vegas to be doing 50s/60s vegas style music apart from ira behr having a whole ratpack fixation

Tiggum posted:

It really doesn't though. If you write it all out like that it kind of seems like there's a bunch of weird stuff happening all the time but in practice it's just not treated as weird or interesting in any way. Everyone's just like "mushroom kingdom makes the ship teleport? Cool. Go plug yourself into the thing, Stamets." and that's it. This show isn't Legion or Maniac or even Legends of Tomorrow. It's not weird, it's just dumb. And not in a fun way.

tilly's parasite ghost and wild adventure in the spore-verse were trippy as hell. i actually hated the latter episode because the dialog bugged me but i appreciated the :shroom:

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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Why did Kamran-Control faff about for 10 minutes and then tell Burnham he's gonna stab her with nanites instead of just stabbing her with nanites the moment Spock is out the door?

For a superintelligence he sure is a dumb idiot

what would even be the point of a galaxy spanning evil scheme if you cannot go off on a monologue?

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CONSPIRACY THEORY: Airim I is the primary cast's drug connect but cannot act to save her life

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wiles never solved fermats last theorem in trek cannon cannot think of an earlier explicit point of departure

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counterfeitsaint posted:

The Defiant is a pretty ship and does a great job of taking Federation design philosophy and tweaking it for war. Compact with minimal armored surface area for maximum volume, but not taking it to such a boring extreme of turning it into a literal cube or sphere. Spindly little nacelle connectors and necks connecting two hulls are weak points. Now if you'll excuse me I'll continue completely ignoring Klingon design philosophy because I don't even know what the gently caress. The Romulans are right out.

Didn't the klingons just buy the Bird of Prey off of the Romulans? The sensible used hatchback of space war.

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Technowolf posted:

Explain the D7/K'tinga-class then.

well obviously after the feds kept owning them over & over again they decided to do a derpy reinterpretation of the "bulbous frontage and nacelles" aesthetic to stay competative

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The Bloop posted:

Easily fixed but loving obvious plot holes are the goddamn worst


loving reread the script one more time Jesus

they seriously do not seem to do a second draft. gently caress it, start rendering, nerds will watch anything

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ashpanash posted:

They watch Voyager and The Orville so I guess so, yeah

orville this week was better plotted than DISCO but DISCO had prettier star ship porn. DISCO probably just nudged it in the "actually emotionally moved me stakes" but like every other scene last week was some kind of big feels "goodbye forever/ride or die :black101:" thing so you would certainly hope so

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Nemo posted:

Does anyone actually understand the “seven signals” thing?

Seven signals appeared, all at once, all across the galaxy, and Disco somehow knows the proper order in which to visit them? Shouldn’t they have been able to triangulate all seven locations after the first couple appearances? Or, if they’re only appearing one at a time, how do they know there’ll be seven?

Why does Starfleet consider this more important than absolutely anything else?


And who saved the Terrelisium people, Michael or her mom? Why is a time suit able to teleport a building that far through space in the first place?

Spock.

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HD DAD posted:

As much as I want to dislike the character of Georgiou, I just...can’t.

“Hi Leland. Everyone hates you. Congratulations.”

i also do not like how much i like hilarious space hitler god empress georgiou. her giggling while leland zombie painfully died was a thing

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