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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Show was OK but took itself way too seriously. I'll probably enjoy watching it and mocking it for its mis-steps, big and small.

I like that the helm console has a "self destruct" button. Right next to the "Shields" button no less - at least put that thing under a little flap or something :stare:

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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It's getting heated in this thread. Maybe we all need to sit down at a long conference table and find some common ground over a cup of earl grey.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Caros posted:

Also, i know it is petty of me, but can I just say, radiation does not work that way.

Which bit was that? Shows almost never get radiation right so it doesn't surprise me in the least, but it's normally something that jumps out at me and I don't recall it from the pilot.

Obfuscation posted:

Apparently people have really strong opinions about Star Trek.

I think this is true of all fiction tbh. And if a story is popular enough to have a thread all to itself you can bet there will be a riot happening inside, whatever it's about

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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CPColin posted:

Probably the to-the-second countdown to the lethal dose.

Hahaha oh yeah, that's always a good one. In fiction it has to work like a ticking time bomb or there's no drama.

"Commander if you stay out there for 3 more minutes you'll have a 10% elevated risk of thyroid cancer in the next 40 years!"

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Captain, the audience sensors are having trouble resolving the plot points due to a scattering field of complete bullshit.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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If they just manage to keep this series internally consistent I'll be happy. Keeping it consistent with the other series is a huge minefield and there are no gaps between the mines so laffo at even the very idea

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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They called them "lateral transporters" which i think was just a throwaway line to explain the design choice of having big dishes behind the pads (instead of above them). I think there was a mention of them being inefficient. But yeah, it could serve as a handy excuse as to why they can't [do thing they've done perfectly well in other series]

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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1. parody
2. rip-off
3. homage

And the answer is:

pick none of them and stop posting about orville

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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So I thought this show got off to a reasonably watchable start. Sure there were some mis-steps - your clunky expository dialogue, your questionable understanding of even basic science etc (so far, so trek) - but this 4th episode kinda killed any hope off for me.

The fungal transit network with Chief Navigator Oversized Water Bear is goddamn ridiculous, maybe even more so than TNG's "you can warp anywhere instantly if you just think about it, maaaan" Traveller Guy. I like it when star trek's mcguffins can be explained away with fictional forces, fields and particles but this spore poo poo is just silly.

I also find it difficult to like a show when the characters make boneheaded decisions that aren't compatible with their supposed experience or character. Or even just common sense. Security Chief Fuckhead, for example - how could anyone with any sense at all think that it would be a good idea to just open the door to the monster cage without at least turning the light on and having a loving look to make sure it was actually sedated?

Call it :qq: MY IMMERSION :qq: but whenever I suddenly find myself thinking "why would anyone ever do that, that's stupid", shows and movies lose me.

Spinning saucer was just lol. Why did it spin. What's even in the saucer that needs to rotate. Is the engine powered by people feeling dizzy in their crew quarters?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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What's the actual dialogue that explains the situation?

I reckon it could be explained away in a number of easy ways (even if the show failed to do so).

Like, maybe they knew the facility was crucial to the war effort, and maybe they knew the Klingons knew that too, and they knew it didn't have a lot of defense - but maybe they mistakenly thought their surveillance net would pick up an raid or attack fleet in time to get reinforcements there.

History is replete with in-hindsight-boneheaded decisions, though I'll concede that a TV show ought to go the extra mile of justifying any such decisions because it'll lose the audience otherwise.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Are you a bad enough captain to torture a bug?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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XboxPants posted:

— Paul Stamets, Mycelium Running

, Datalinks

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Powered Descent posted:

So am I the only one who noticed the bit where Burnham said the tardigrade has an "All Access" travel pass to the mushroom kingdom or whatever
Really, for gently caress's sake, it's right at 21:00, start ten or fifteen seconds before that

Am I the only one who said "Really, CBS, REALLY???!"

Lol I was going to bring that up too. It really did feel like a deliberate namedrop as well, the way she said it.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Imagine your captain giving a rousing speech over the comm, setting the ship to self destruct on a time delay, and then legging it off the bridge

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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That bathroom mirror is the emergency backup mirror system for when the main holographic mirror matrix array goes down (which happens whenever there's a reflecton leak in the image reversal beam)

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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hiddenriverninja posted:

What will the sky look like on Earth when they merge?

It'll look roughly like there's two milky ways in the sky and given how difficult it is to see the regular milky way with all our light pollution, it won't look much different except all the stars will have moved around


Comedy answer: it'll look like the blanket of clouds that we see on Venus

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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hiddenriverninja posted:

I'd love to see a time travel case get argued in space court.

Mr Mudd, please can you tell the Court where you were on the nights of the 8th July, the 8th July, the 8th July and the 8th July?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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blastron posted:

Why did the call for Burnham and Tyler to come to the bridge come so much later in the loop where they dance? It came within seconds in other loops.
:goonsay:

Chaos. Their dance set into motion a current of air which worked its way through the vents and tickled Saru's nose and he did the most disgusting sneeze, so they all had a laugh and then got back to work. This is a deleted scene.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Star Trek: Time Scene Investigation

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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S01E01: "Laws and Effect"

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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I've just come back from page 130 to tell everyone that, despite our best efforts, this conversation never resolves itself

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pac-Manioc Root posted:

Wasn't there a season 6ish episode of TNG where scientists discovered going faster than like Warp 5 was tearing the universe apart, so they all agreed to reduce greenhouse emissions stop warping so fast; that was subsequently ignored and they went back in subsequent episode to going warp 8-9 everywhere?

That whole thing was an analogy for climate change, moreso than they ever intended

"We gotta do something"

"Agreed"

"Ok I've written it down, it's like a rule now"

"Good stuff"

*does nothing*

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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They switched to Clean Dilithium

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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abraxas posted:

I thought it was alright, but the shiny golden full body space suit for Pike made me laugh out loud for a minute or so. Man.. that was some good poo poo, who thinks of this stuff? What a bunch of stoners.

dat rear end tho

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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The death of Lt. Dickhead in pod #4 was so horribly predictable

Alan_Shore posted:

- Tilly was leaned on too much as the "funny" one, like they could have deleted all her poo poo when she's shouting over the warnings, we know why you're shouting, you don't have to do a whole The Office bit about why you were shouting Jesus Christ

I hate Tilly. I also hate her "science!! math!!!" exuberance

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Are those his real arms? Was that scene edited somehow?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Binary Logic posted:

Anyone care to try to explain the physics behind deployment of the Gravity Simulator? It reminds me a bit of the way fireworks snakes grow.



For some reason a big thing unfolding very quickly from a tiny thing is a bit of a trope in sci-fi, and people love it. I call it the Inspector Gadget Principle.



As for the physics, it's pretty much a big fat "no not possible". I mean you can have things like solar sails unfold from a tiny origami package but that Gravity Simulator thing looks (and sounds) bloody heavy.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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The_Doctor posted:

I do wonder how hellish those are to be in for long periods of time. I know he's got normal shoes for when they're not in shot.

Pretty sure his normal shoes were spotted when he was sprinting through the woods on Enchanted Forest With a Crystal Penis planet

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Is this the first time a CCTV camera has featured on a starship?

Anyway, check out the dials in the shuttle:



I'm guessing they stand for Tertiary Navigation Grid and Egregious Nonsense Technobabble

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Zesty posted:

I'm like Neil deGrasse Tyson on Twitter except exclusively for imaginary fictional physics.

What's on your waistcoat?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Phylodox posted:

The ship’s database has 47,999 fewer instances of porn.

I'm also into 749148 pm me

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Senor Tron posted:

From a purely visual perspective this episode smashed it. The first shot of Burnham flying through the Vulcan city especially was feature film quality.

A very nice scene but i had to laugh at "unidentified starfleet vessel! identify yourself!" when she was already within meters of vulcan skyscrapers

Could they not have checked her bags at the edge of the solar system?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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I bet the vulcans would name us something stupid and obvious too, like "earthlings" or something, just because some of our planet has earth on it

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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The Bloop posted:

If you had a coworker that was like gently caress YES SPREADSHEETS all the time

Look nobody has told me to stop so i can only assume everyone else shares my passion

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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King Burgundy posted:

Also, my favorite part of the episode was the segment about appending the word "time" in front of things making them cooler. Saru rolling his eyes. And Pike looking super pleased with himself when he joined in.

timepostin' in this timethread

ijii posted:

Tilly's obnoxious awkward dorky outbursts would be more tolerable if it happened during her off duty hours in her pastime or maybe during a regular boring shift. To me it just seems so out of place and annoying because it happens during a crisis or a serious situation. I guess that's what happens when you have only 10 episode seasons. No time to flesh out characters in a better manner.

Tilly has dork tourettes. It's worse when she's stressed

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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So apparently sql injections are still a thing in 23rd century starship computers. Huh.

Liked this episode a lot though, i liked the somewhat sinister background music while the Talosians were busy thinking at people

Also some good comedy moments that aren't too on the nose or Tilly being Too Much

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Cojawfee posted:

I know they wanted to sound smart, but SQL injection?

They better stop now or they'll end up with something as bad as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ

My favourite bit is all of the bits

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Facebook Aunt posted:

It's the universal translator translating the tecnobabble into something our primitive language can express. :v:

Reverse the polarity of the phaser banks! Do the pew pew backwards!

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:

I mean, I would watch a show about mundane problem solving on a trillion dollar scifi space ship.

I am a broken human though.

The ISS does have a webcam. Just pretend it's sci-fi and you're set.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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My Lovely Horse posted:

I'd watch a show starring Jefferies and their ascent from humble engineer to richest person in the galaxy after they licensed the tube to Starfleet for only 100 spacedollars, and Starfleet Legal didn't realize until it was too late that the fine print said "per foot."

Then Mr Replicator launches his invention and collapses the entire economy by depreciating the value of nearly everything, including spacedollars. Mr Jefferies finds himself destitute. He tries to spin up his hobby of writing holonovellas into an entertainment business but nothing takes off. He is later buried in a piece of the prototype tube that made him a household name.

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