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Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Doc Morbid posted:

Finnish, and all the books aside from Season of Storms have been translated. I hear the Finnish translation is supposed to be pretty good, but I've been reading the English editions because those (at least the e-books) are much cheaper.

The Finnish translation is freaking fantastic, for the most part. It sort of breaks the consistency at times, when the translator seems to run out of good translations for some of the various monsters and resorts to direct anglisms but for much of the books I'd go as far as use the word localisation instead of translation.

You can switch the styles much easier with Z, X and C (I think, been a while) than by clicking the tiny ui with your mouse.

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Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Xander77 posted:

JFC, that is amazing. 90% of conversations in this game already sound like two distinct monologues talking right past each other, so I can't even begin to imagine what the original game was like.

I actually developed a habit during playing this game. Whenever characters were talking to each other, I'd stare slightly past my screen so that I'd only see them from the corner of my eye. The talking heads with their ill-fitting idle animations bothered me so much. Come Witcher 2 it was much better but I still sometimes found myself staring at some papers on my desk while a discussion was going on.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
I want to say that the amnesia thing is pretty drat well done in this game. I knew nothing about the story going into the game and I purposefully avoided reading the books while Geralt still has amnesia in the video game story. Only like three times or so would I have liked to have more information because the game didn't really give any and in-game Geralt seems to know what was going on but in the end even those worked.

Also, if you do decide to fight the frightener, that is an experiment in frustration. The intended game mechanic doesn't work too well.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
One thing I like about the witcher games in general is that the neighbourhoods look livable. Not in the way of "I want to live there" but someone clearly thought what people living there would build. You get farms with the storage houses and outhouses and fenced gardens. You get one mill by a river, one church in the biggest village - and a market, even if the player doesn't need to interact with it. It's not unique to Witcher by any means but it's realistic.

Then of course you still want to check every box and barrel because these poor people keep leaving their coins everywhere and don't mind if someone takes them. That's of course RPG 101 but it bothers me more when the setting is otherwise great.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
That escort quest was downright impossible for me without first completing the fire bearing quest. The bargheists spawn for the shrines every time you get close to one of them and the escort quest itself spawns some more. At worst I think I had 8 of the dogs attacking at once and Vesna just doesn't survive. I think they butchered more than just the village militia at the end there, too.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Frogfingers posted:

Thank you for enduring this jankiness so I don't have to. I've been meaning to play Witcher 2 and 3 but the original looks beyond my patience and goodwill.

In my opinion, the Outskirts and another outdoorsy part that comes later are the worst in said jankiness. That said, Outskirts is really good in keeping the plot off railroad tracks and it gives the impression that the NPCs live their own lives right off the bat.

Alvin, though, is really even worse in video than in images. (Don't go looking if you care about spoilers, there are huge ones among the names of the top searches in Youtube).

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

painedforever posted:

Clearly you need to mix yourself the right sort of potion. Let me think now, got any Barghest livers?

Something with extra rubedo.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

:eyepop:

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
I never actually got the hints about the shadyness of Odo until I played the Outskirts for the 3rd time (computer had some hiccups). Thanks for pointing out the dog, too. Somehow I missed that it's not originally Odo's.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
I hadn't heard about the Wild Hunt before (in our world's tales or the Witcher's, since I hadn't yet read the books) and was totally confused about that encounter with their king. So much so that I reloaded a save and tried to do other things first because I was sure I'd somehow skipped a part of the story or the game had glitched and left out some scene. Geralt seemed to know what the king is talking about, despite his amnesia, but for me as a player it was just a confusing mess of words from a pretty scary-looking specter.


achtungnight posted:

Nice developments here.

Poll for those inclined- who’s your favorite Witcher character? I personally like Shani- her personality is fun and healing is always appreciated. Geralt himself is my fave among the men. Bravery and good speeches like those in the recent update.

I can't help but like the dynamics between Geralt and the certain someone with raven-black hair. I'd like to be a nerd and pick some obscure side character but no, it's those two.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

resurgam40 posted:

Well, heck- I wake up to find Act I done, which is one of the first great hurdles of getting through the game, due to the slog of the sidequests and all the things you have to learn to play the game- as I recall, the last attempt to LP this only got a little bit farther than you did. I can't say it's smooth sailing from here, as this game even at its best is never smooth- there is one other rough patch upcoming that causes a lot of players to throw up their hands (it involves a swamp, and isn't that always the way- swamp or sewers?).

But the Doc is doing very well, although it really doesn't seem that way from a plot perspective. Which leads me to take a leaf from achtungnight's unofficial poll (for the record, that questions a toughie for me- there are a LOT of good characters in this series- but I think if you put a gun to my head, I'd have to say that Geralt and his love interests, and the relationship between all of them, would have to be my favorite characters, as that relationship and the problems presented by it and the potential solutions to those problems, reaches a depth of maturity you don't really see that often in video games. At all.) and ask one of my own for any newbies to the series who might be following: regardless of whether he's your favorite character or not, what do you think about Geralt? I ask because when I'd begun these games myself, I went in cold, hadn't even heard of the series before, and by the time I'd dragged myself across the finish line of Act I, a very definite idea was occurring to me: Our boy... is something of a gently caress-up, isn't he?

I mean, fair is fair- he is dealing with severe amnesia, and the pressures of running into all kinds of people he has no recollection of but seem to know him toe to tip cant be easy... but even putting aside the question of his memory, there seems to be more going on with him that signifies problems- a lot of problems. Even for an amnesiac, Geralt is very passive and reactionary, preferring to wait until problems present themselves before attempting to solve them, and said "solving" usually involves the business end of his blades. And he's not even consistent about it: I mean, take this last update- he knew that Mikul is a filthy rapist and not to be trusted, and he didn't have to just casually walk into the trap; it could have been the easiest thing in the world to just gank him and drop his body in the river and then go through the gates. (I mean, it might not have stopped him from getting arrested, but it would have removed one more rapist from the world, and really, after Ye Olde Village Massacre, what's one more? :v: ) Yes, yes, I know, he might have been tired of killing people after all that and just want to get things finished, but it would have been more proactive (or at least more cathartic, because seriously, gently caress rapists), and the weird thing is, Geralt doesn't seem an unintelligent character. His memory may not be all that much, but his knowledge of monsters (once he gets a refresher) is fairly encyclopedic, and he can be really perceptive sometimes- by all account he should be able to see some, or even most, of the fastballs life throws at him but... he doesn't. And then there's the addiction thing. Geralt's been kinda... really eager to jump in the sack with anybody willing to do so (even when it really isn't the time, as last update showed), and I think it's particularly telling that when Odo got him drunk last update, he didn't even attempt to say no before getting hammered- I mean, not even a cursory "Aw no, I really couldn't" which I am generally given to understand is polite to say at least once (or maybe things are different in Poland, I dunno)... which probably means alcoholism. So heavy substance abuse and dangerous passivity... it all paints a grim picture, doesn't it? One of somebody who, at least on a subconscious level, has stopped trying to defend or take care of himself... and may actively seek his own death. Not really the typical naive farm-boy that generally stars in fantasy, no?

Going into Witcher 1, I didn't know anything except that it's supposed to be kinda dark but not comically so, and there are choices that aren't Bioware stuff, for good or bad. The impression I got pretty soon, around the time Geralt got arrested as seen there, was that despite appearing to be a superhuman anti-hero, Geralt isn't a big deal in-universe at all. A common peasant doesn't fear him, or worse, does barely recognize that witchers are a thing other than a profession. You're not playing a war hero or a nefarious villain but just a hobo who's mostly treated as such. Granted, you're exceptionally good at fighting and there are some folk tales about your kind but absolutely nobody gives a drat about you walking on the street and you're fine with it because you don't want to get driven off the village. You'd rather earn some coin and maybe briefly visit a mill with a local girl.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.

Xander77 posted:

For a moment I misremembered the story order, and thought you meant "A Little Sacrifice". Was about to fight you IRL.

That's one of the best novels I've read in ages.

I like Siegfried's and Geralt's dialogue in the sewers a lot. You kind of lean towards accompanying him, it being practical and all, but you're also given enough of characterisation of the guy to decide that you may not want him along anyway.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
Despite liking the game and how it allows you to do thing sort of out of order, this part is something I dislike exactly because of that. So many quests start almost simultaneously but the game seems to think you're doing them one at the time. At times I had the feeling that I was missing entire stages of ongoing quests. The warehouse quest is an example. Vincent Meis is thinking on his feet when Geralt shows up uninvited and that part is fine. Afterwards he's acting as if he and Geralt had planned it all along and I was really confused. He does say something happens "tonight" in the warehouse but the quest text doesn't convey that and I at least left the quest alone for like a week of in-game time.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
I just want to say how being reminded me of the novels made me appreciate The Witcher 3's stories even more. I don't suppose it's too much spoilers to say that Geralt isn't cured of his amnesia in this game or in Witcher 2 but somewhere in between 2 and 3 (if anyone thinks so, I'll edit this out). Storywise Witcher 1 kinda reboots the story and 2 is a pretty great followup for it but neither really continues the novels. The third game on the other hand manages to expand on both the earlier games and the novels in a way that is worthy of both.

Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
Yeah, LPing wears on you by itself and should be put aside when more important stuff happens. Good luck!

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Valiantman
Jun 25, 2011

Ways to circumvent the Compact #6: Find a dreaming god and affect his dreams so that they become reality. Hey, it's not like it's you who's affecting the world. Blame the other guy for irresponsibly falling asleep.
*getting excited*

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