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OOrochi posted:I think it wasn't that there was a repeatable quest, but that you had a limited quest item inventory. Since the game sometimes gave you extra quest items, you'd often just chuck the item thinking it was an unnecessary copy, only to get stuck with an unfinishable mission once the 3rd quest unlocked. Yeah, a ton of players assumed it was ok to throw away the Black Thread, myself included. Even in FFTA2, I feel a sense of relief whenever I get Black Thread as loot.
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Solumin, how much peripheral stuff can one do before finishing the story end and sending not-Mark-Twain home? I've played FFTA quite a bit but never this game, and I'm always the sort that does every secondary thing possible before moving on with the plot. I don't think that you went that route, but I'm curious how far one can go down the side quest rabbit hole before concluding the main plot.
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Off the top of my head, I can think of only a handful of quests that are locked behind the final story mission. So I would say you can do about 90% of the side quests. I wanted to finish the main story now because the battles would have been boring if the clan was over leveled, and because I wanted to unlock those quests.
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Jun 18, 2018 17:03
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Oh, you'll get your share of excitement, I promise you that! You will be scrambling to survive in the final quest. For all your power and skills, they mean nothing when your foes can one-hit gib you.
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Solumin posted:Off the top of my head, I can think of only a handful of quests that are locked behind the final story mission. So I would say you can do about 90% of the side quests. I want to say that the postgame locks about 20 missions, the final Brightmoon Tor ascent, two optional characters (that you'll never use), and then The Final Mission. So 90% is a pretty fair estimate. There are, however, a few missions with hair-pullingly obnoxious prerequisites to open up, including one that takes redoing a repeatable quest ten times over.
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KataraniSword posted:There are, however, a few missions with hair-pullingly obnoxious prerequisites to open up, including one that takes redoing a repeatable quest ten times over. ...and not even that great a repeatable quest.
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Jun 18, 2018 17:38
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Congratulations on your victory. ...I wonder who or what Samuel's grimoire is waiting for now? Or if its task was completed.
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Glazius posted:Congratulations on your victory. ...I wonder who or what Samuel's grimoire is waiting for now? Or if its task was completed. I'm pretty sure the task was complete. I think he was drawn to Ivalice in order to defeat Illua, and that's been accomplished. That's one way to look at his story, anyway.
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Update 38: The Adventure Continues In This Update: - Recruitment! - Wells! - Voting! --- Welcome back. I promised at the beginning of the LP to do every single mission in the game. With the main story finished, that's now the focus of this LP. We're a little more than halfway through the game with about 140 quests left. Beating the last story mission doesn't unlock much -- there's not really a post-game to speak of. A bunch of quests become available and we can recruit a couple unique characters. That's really it.  We pick up from where we last saved: right outside the last battle.   Maybe we'll come back here some time. For now, back to Ivalice!  Lezaford's cabin now serves as the portal to Jagd Zellea. This means if you want to use his cabin as a time skip, you have to travel to Zellea and warp back first. It's very annoying.   Waiting for us in the pub is a bunch of new quests, such as the final Cinquleur battle. It's up to YOU to choose which quests we'll do next! Check the end of the update for voting info.  Let's unlock the first bonus character!  Back in update 27, a fellow named Al-Cid Margrace provided some useful information to Vaan and Penelo. After recruiting the sky pirates, this quest became available. I completed it then, but it didn't make sense to show it until now.   Samuel and Adelle walk into Aisenfield, where they run into Al-Cid himself.   : Such a vulgar word from one so young. I would ask you: what is a flower that has never basked in the sun? I could not leave such beauty to wither and die. : Well, I don't know about basking and withering, but if you're who we're after, that's all I need to know.: As you say. If it a duel you've come for, I would not want you to leave... unsatisfied.: Whoa, not so fast! There must be some other way to settle this!: What man would not gladly lay down his life for the woman he loved? No man of House Margrace, I can assure you.  Al-Cid really has a flowery way of speaking, doesn't he.   Oh look, the entire enemy team is viera except for Al-Cid himself.  The clan's average level is somewhere in the mid-30s, and we have a single target to face. And this is somehow a level 62 quest.  I'm even sending Imino to raid the large treasure chest by himself instead of fighting Al-Cid.   Meanwhile, Adelle and Zoe assault Al-Cid.  Al-Cid's allies aren't particularly threatening. They're surprisingly slow.   Of course, they do have some good attacks.   By the time Al-Cid takes his first turn, he's already down to about a third of his health. "Impassion" inflicts Berserk and raises the target's critical hit chance. Which seems kind of counter-productive, honestly.  Imino finally reaches the treasure chest.   Just in time for Adelle and Zoe to finish off Al-Cid.   And that's that.  ---   : I will entreat Marnot to reconsider. I'll tell him I took his invitation to dinner as that, and no more. Had I thought he meant more, I would never have accepted.  : She's an odd one. One chocobo short of a flock, if you ask me.: A flower is at its most beautiful growing in the wild. Pick it, and its beauty soon fades. Al-Cid and his manservant walk off.  ---  Eternally yours, A.M. This letter is waiting for us after completing A Dashing Duel and beating the game. It should be obvious who sent it.   None other than Al-Cid himself, of course.  : Al-Cid!: Whoa! Him again!  : How is it that, even left untended for months, you grow into such an enchanting bloom?I thought wild flowers were the most beautiful, Al-Cid?  : Al-Cid. Your tongue is as skilled as ever, I see.: It does not require skill to speak the truth.: So, what's up? You've come a long way just to chat up my partner.: Truth be told, I desired respite from my affairs. A diversion, shall we say. Work has been most demanding of late. Normally, I sleep like a babe, but they barely give me time to close my eyes! And then came this sky pirate, demanding I do some "research" for him.: Oh...: So I do it. But when I go to the appointed place, at the appointed time... he is nowhere to be found! So, we do not meet. Having no recourse, I ask another to carry my report to him.: I'm sorry we weren't able to send word... Vaan, say something! : But... thanks. You really came through for us, Al-Cid.: Ah, then I was of some use after all. This is good to hear.: So, we've been spending our free time with these Clan Sawyer folks. It's been good, hasn't it, Penelo. We've learned a lot from them.: You don't say.: Hey, we're glad to have the company. Huh, Cid? : Hmph.: I believe we have not yet met. Al-Cid Margrace, at your service. : Samuel has told me much about you.: I am pleased to see you getting along so famously with my pirate friends. My struggles to bring you together were not in vain, it seems.: ...Struggles?: No, no thanks, please. I merely performed that which was required of me.: Um... wait, what?: Please! Not another word! Yet, if you find that you cannot rest until you have repaid me in some small way, I will understand. Perhaps you would even take the time to listen to my trifling little problem.: ... : In fact, should present trends continue, things could get quite... ugly. I thought to make myself scarce a while and allow the world to order itself anew. But I could not find a suitable place to do so.: Wait... You aren't- : Join our... What!? You want to... You mean... Um, Cid?: Sorry, but our clan isn't exactly set up to receive gentlemen of leisure.: Again, no cause for concern! I have no intention of being a powdered guest in your halls, sir. If there is need, I would be happy to lend my considerable talents at marksmanship.: I won't have you injuring yourself on my watch.Remember what Cid said when Samuel joined the clan? He's a big softie, really. : Death...this would be a problem. But I am no stranger to cuts and bruises. And you do have a judge amongst your ranks, yes?: ...Fine. I don't care what "disorder" you're running from, we'll take you in.: Cid!?: You're letting him join? Are you sure? This is Al-Cid we're talking about!: I think Cid knows exactly who he's dealing with, somehow.: Ahh... This is a relief. My quest for sanctuary was longer than I expected.: What about your...escort?: A little too conspicuous, wouldn't you agree? After a brief discussion, the manservant leaves. : True, it has been many years since I traveled alone. Yet, I think I shall find the experience...refreshing.: Never thought I'd be rubbing shoulders with a Margrace, that's for sure.: Margrace... Adelle mentioned them too. Who are they?: House Margrace, rulers of a mighty land off east called Rozarria. Royalty, kid, to put it plainly.: Royalty? Really? What, so he's some kind of prince!? Him? No way!: Only one among many, I assure you.: Well, at least that explains the attitude. Huh. How come now I know you're a prince, you don't seem so annoying?: That, my friend, is a mystery. Yet the more of me you see, I think, the more highly you will regard this diamond in the rough. And we will be seeing much of each other!: ...: We are brothers now, after all, yes?---   Al-Cid Margrace is the worst recruitable character in the game.  His stats aren't terrible, maybe a little below the clan's average. His unique job is Agent, a gun-wielding smooth talker that basically makes him Ivalice's James Bond.  We'll go into detail about just how lackluster Agent is in an upcoming Job Roundup. The short version: almost every ability targets females only and there are no no R- or P-Abilities. But that's only part of why Al-Cid is so bad.  You see, Al-Cid cannot change jobs. He is stuck as an Agent for the entire game. He will never have any R-Abilities or P-Abilities, and he cannot use any A-Abilities besides Reconnaissance and Items. And he's a hume, the most versatile race in the game. Guns are one-handed weapons, and I think Al-Cid would be able to dual wield them. But no, he's stuck as an Agent. --- There's one quest I want to get out of the way before tackling more side quests.   Odd Places is another one of those quests that unlocks more areas.  There's between 1 and 3 wells on the map, in four possible locations.   "Wells" is misleading, we can only examine one each time.     There's four groups of enemies, one for each well. (The fourth well can appear near the treasure chest to the south.)  Indeed they do not!  : That well looks suspicious... Let's check it out.  We're going to ignore the monster for the most part. The quest ends as soon as you examine one of the wells.   See?   ---  : Okay. So the well was connected to this place. Those monsters don't seem too hungry... Let's take a look around. The well teleported us to Goug!  Odd Places unlocks a few more quests, such as this one. "Firewyrm Mount" is the location the well took us to. ---  Odd Places only shows up during Silversun -- the quest description mentions strange rumors crop up "around this time of year." This means we have to take a year-long nap in order to repeat the quest.   It's random which wells appear. You're wasting your time if you investigate the same well, so take note of which ones you've checked already.  Otherwise, the enemies and the law are the same.   I guess we'll go around counter-clockwise.  : Hrah... next well. Wonder where this one leads...---   : Hrmm. So the well was connected to this place. Those monsters don't seem to pose much of a threat. Let's have a look around... This time we came out in the Sant D'alsa Bluff! ---   Odd Places is rank 39, which means it's great for leveling the clan. A lot of them are still level 41, and the few who battled Illua reached level 42 - 43.  Same laws, same dialogue, etc.   That was cathartic!   Here's Al-Cid's Escort ability. It's just like the Paladin's Cover, except it only works on female units.   It lets me vent some of my frustration on Al-Cid.   Only one more well left after this.   Did you notice we're visiting only volcanoes? I wonder if we'll see an explanation for that some time.   We were actually in the Neslowe Passage, the series of caves that give this part of the map its name.   Hell no! ---   Last one.   There's really not much to say at this point.   : Okay. So the well was connected to this place. These monsters don't seem too hungry... Let's take a look around.Yup. No unique dialogue.  The last well took us to Kthili Sands, an area we've rarely visited. --- With that out of the way, let's talk about future updates. There's a bunch of side quest chains left to do. Most of them are pretty short, maybe three or four quests, though a few are pretty long. The majority of the remaining quests are one-shots that don't connect to anything. Future updates will either feature one long quest line or two small quest lines, with one-shots as filler if needed. I want YOU to choose what quests we tackle first! At the end of each update, I'll post a few options for the next update. There will be a mix of long and short quest lines to choose from. Vote for ONE LONG QUEST or TWO SHORT QUESTS! As usual, put your choices in bold. Today's options are: Long: 1. Visit the Witch of the Fens. 2. Enter into the Ivalice Tournament Circuit. Short: 3. Annoy Prima Donna some more. 4. Have a Showdown with Clan Bowen. 5. Help someone bake a cake. Thanks for reading! Voting will be open for a day or two.
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Jun 27, 2018 02:08
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To be clear, vote for either one long quest OR two short quests. Not both. (The cake one is actually really cute, iirc.)
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Jun 27, 2018 02:12
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We should bake a cake with Clan Bowen.
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Jun 27, 2018 02:39
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bake a cake to annoy Prima Donna
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Jun 27, 2018 03:02
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Throw a Cake at Prima Donna
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Jun 27, 2018 03:14
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Oh, my mistake. Lets see the witch of the fens
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Jun 27, 2018 03:15
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bother prima donna then wash the taste out with a civilized duel with clan bowen
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Jun 27, 2018 03:38
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Visit the witch of the fens. I don't recall any of these sidequests from the previous LP attempt so I'm flying blind here. Except of course for the bonkers postgame dungeons, because the previous LP stalled on them.
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Jun 27, 2018 03:45
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Bake a cake and then take a Bowen
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Jun 27, 2018 04:56
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I don't think I knew that that well quest had multiple area unlock outcomes. Whoops!
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Jun 27, 2018 05:22
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Bother Prima Donna with Cake
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Jun 27, 2018 05:50
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Pester Prima Donna with Cake
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Jun 27, 2018 06:32
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Bake a cake in front of Prima Donna then eat the whole thing.
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Jun 27, 2018 13:40
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Visit the witch of the fens, since we've heard a bit about her already.
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Jun 27, 2018 20:02
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I vote Humiliate Al-Cid in front of both the Witch and Prima Donna Seriously, worst character in the game. I never played FF XII past the first couple hours so I have no connection to or nostalgia for him from there, he's a womanizer that never shuts up here, has less than five scenes to him and everyone thinks he's the most awesome thing since sliced bread, and mechanically he makes Flintlocks almost look good in comparison.
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In FF12 hes there acting as a diplomat to broker a peace or non agression treaty with Arcadia. Hes a side character but his existence actually benefits the story as the world feels a bit wider, even though you never visit Rozarria. It might be Im a sucker for fantasy politicking, and that I always enjoy his character archetype, not the womanizer, no, the archetype of the 16th in line Prince who wants to do good in the world through means other than the crown, and using their status to cover that up. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Jun 28, 2018 |
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Jun 28, 2018 11:17
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Alkydere posted:I vote Humiliate Al-Cid in front of both the Witch and Prima Donna Eh, he's a better person than the guy who kept hiring us as his stand-in to cover up his own two-timing, and who's quest line this was a postgame epilogue to.
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Looks like voting has slowed down and we have clear winners, so I'll cut it here. Next update, we'll be baking a cake and visiting Prima Donna! Absolutely no one wanted to do the tournaments, huh?  MightyPretenders posted:Eh, he's a better person than the guy who kept hiring us as his stand-in to cover up his own two-timing, and who's quest line this was a postgame epilogue to. We still have a couple of those quests to do, too. Rigged Death Trap posted:In FF12 hes there acting as a diplomat to broker a peace or non agression treaty with Arcadia. Hes a side character but his existence actually benefits the story as the world feels a bit wider, even though you never visit Rozarria. I know nothing about FFXII, so my impression of Al-Cid is the same as Alkydere's. I would love to have had a quest chain involving helping Al-Cid with his agent stuff/politicking/whatever. It would have been great world building, and it would have actually made him an interesting character.
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I would have voted for the tournament but I knew where the votes were sliding already, so I didn't bother.
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Solumin posted:I know nothing about FFXII, so my impression of Al-Cid is the same as Alkydere's. I would love to have had a quest chain involving helping Al-Cid with his agent stuff/politicking/whatever. It would have been great world building, and it would have actually made him an interesting character. They also could have let him change class in this game about changing classes to build and customize your fantasy
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Alxprit posted:I would have voted for the tournament but I knew where the votes were sliding already, so I didn't bother. No worries, it'll be on the ballot again and we'll have to do it eventually! FoolyCharged posted:They also could have let him change class in this game about changing classes to build and customize your fantasy I would gladly trade recruiting him for an actual quest line. I would also gladly do an all-bangaa gimmick run.
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NGDBSS posted:Visit the witch of the fens.  I go to the witch of the fens to forget my attempt year after year. Solumin posted:I would also gladly do an all-bangaa gimmick run. Sadly, I learned the hard way that FFTA2 is really, really uncooperative with the concept of gimmick runs. Even ignoring the FORBIDDEN: ACTIONS BY [RACE] laws, recruiting is like gouging out your eyeballs and the necessity to unlock jobs basically kneecaps the idea of a single-race run. I tried to do a Nu Mou run once. That combined with my LP with Alkydere burned me out on the game really, really hard. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Jun 29, 2018 |
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Jun 29, 2018 05:54
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If I was going to go a single race run, I would hack the poo poo out of it. Force Luso to be a bangaa, make all the initial clan members bangaa, unlock a bunch of the good gear early, and so on.
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Jun 29, 2018 07:47
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Alright y'all, I minorly messed up: the prima donna quests aren't actually available yet! So instead we'll be baking a cake and battling Bowen. I thought I double checked that all the quests I was offering were available and apparently I was wrong!
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Jun 30, 2018 01:34
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I want a refund.
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Jun 30, 2018 01:39
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Ah well, House Bowen are pretty cool people too.
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Jun 30, 2018 01:58
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Funnily enough, the Prima Donna quests are locked behind the Witch of the Fens ones. Keep that in mind for the next round of voting!
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Jun 30, 2018 02:01
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The way that's phrased, it sounds like the next quest is going to have the Witch join Prima Donna
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Jun 30, 2018 02:16
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Please do not spoil my fanfiction, thank you.
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So long as there is cake, I don't care what else happens. It's the same policy I have towards birthday parties, bar mitzvahs and funerals.
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