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Wow, the double-turn segment for Neville and Enzo was awesome. Like, for Enzo it plays perfectly into the reality of a division where Enzo is by far the worst wrestler, his overall kayfabe portrayal and booking as a loud-mouth sub-par fighter who has accomplished little even going back to NXT and spent his entire title match getting his rear end kicked AND it successfully works the shoot backstage drama we've been following for him. For Neville it rewards him for months and months of carrying the division with top-level character work AND wrestling to sub-par reactions with a huge push and a boat-load of momentum off the turn, but gives him a perfect storyline reason for leaving the division entirely thus protecting Enzo and the Cruisers as a whole from the vacuum he caused by his long dominance. It sets Enzo up with a ton of heat, and leaves a wide-open field for who might go after him because Jack's recent turn along with Gulak's amusing new gimmick set up very fresh #2 and #3 heels to build up challengers, while Neville left Tozawa and Swann as ex-Champions primed to get hosed over by Enzo so he'll be occupied through to Mania season. Like, this is borderline brilliant. I'm almost stunned at how perfect it was. I hate to jump the gun, but if this culminates in Enzo crowning a well-built face at Mania who's been waiting in the wings during Neville's run, like Metallic or Cedric, this could be a one-in-a-million saving throw that finally vindicates the division. I may have to actually watch 205 Live on Hulu to see if this goes anywhere.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Furthermore they're also having Seth and Dean feud with Braun AND The Bar so I genuinely have no idea what the gently caress is going on there. I don't think it's a feud with Braun, more just a one off thing. Dean challenges him because he's nuts, and Seth challenges him too after getting called out as boring and predictable.
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Sep 26, 2017 06:23
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Absolutely, Neville and Enzo made a 205 segment the most exciting part of the night.
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Now Braun will never get his shot at the Cruiserweight Championship!  SalTheBard posted:Was the Enzo segment as good as it sounds? It was certainly...unique. Go search out the full segment on youtube, the WWE channel version doesn't fully encapsulate it.
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Sep 26, 2017 06:26
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Professor Funk posted:Neville should get moved to Smackdown and feud with AJ Styles for the US title tbh Same but also Tozawa.
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Sep 26, 2017 06:33
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Sanguinia posted:Wow, the double-turn segment for Neville and Enzo was awesome. Like, for Enzo it plays perfectly into the reality of a division where Enzo is by far the worst wrestler, his overall kayfabe portrayal and booking as a loud-mouth sub-par fighter who has accomplished little even going back to NXT and spent his entire title match getting his rear end kicked AND it successfully works the shoot backstage drama we've been following for him. For Neville it rewards him for months and months of carrying the division with top-level character work AND wrestling to sub-par reactions with a huge push and a boat-load of momentum off the turn, but gives him a perfect storyline reason for leaving the division entirely thus protecting Enzo and the Cruisers as a whole from the vacuum he caused by his long dominance. It sets Enzo up with a ton of heat, and leaves a wide-open field for who might go after him because Jack's recent turn along with Gulak's amusing new gimmick set up very fresh #2 and #3 heels to build up challengers, while Neville left Tozawa and Swann as ex-Champions primed to get hosed over by Enzo so he'll be occupied through to Mania season. lol if you think any of that will happen
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Sep 26, 2017 06:46
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Benne posted:lol if you think any of that will happen I mean, I don't really, but I'll at least wait until the first fuckup. Like if Neville is still on 205 Live tomorrow for instance.
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Sep 26, 2017 06:50
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tweet my meat posted:I don't think it's a feud with Braun, more just a one off thing. Dean challenges him because he's nuts, and Seth challenges him too after getting called out as boring and predictable. Still doesn't explain The Bar!
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Sep 26, 2017 06:53
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Wow that segment was pretty loving awesome. The slow turn of the promo was great. Neville using Red Arrow was awesome. Wow. Loved it
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Sep 26, 2017 06:54
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Still doesn't explain The Bar! Well that's simple THEYAREDABARRRRRR
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Sep 26, 2017 06:55
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Still doesn't explain The Bar! Shaemus lost to Rollins again tonight you know. If that is the direction they're going it's dumb because Shaesaro continue to look like jobbers who would add nothing to Braun.
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Sep 26, 2017 06:59
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Sanguinia posted:Shaemus lost to Rollins again tonight you know. If that is the direction they're going it's dumb because Shaesaro continue to look like jobbers who would add nothing to Braun. Yes but the announcers made it very very clear that The Bar wasn't done with them yet, and even IF it's Miztourage v. Shield that means literally none of the men's titles will be defended at TLC. I just don't see that happening. Unless they do a Russo special and it's a 6 man where if the Miztourage wins Bo and Axel get the tag titles and if The Shield wins Roman gets the IC Title.
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Sep 26, 2017 07:14
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Miz + Miztourage + Joe + Strowman + The Bar vs. The Shield. Ambrose and Rollins are taken out before the match and never tag in. Roman wins with one Spear.
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Sep 26, 2017 07:15
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Actually the more I think about it the more I think they'll do the 6 man title for title deal but that''ll have all the drama of Cena/Rock vs. Awesome Truth.
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Sep 26, 2017 07:16
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I mean if we wanna talk about Awesome Truth wasn't that the last time Miz (with R-Truth of all people) was actually, like, a really credible danger to people? Not saying that match was anything, I never saw it and it probably sucked, just, y'know, the team in general.
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VJeff posted:I mean if we wanna talk about Awesome Truth wasn't that the last time Miz (with R-Truth of all people) was actually, like, a really credible danger to people? Very much so. Just like they made the Miztourage look fairly legit tonight. Match still sucked though.
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Sep 26, 2017 07:19
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VJeff posted:I mean if we wanna talk about Awesome Truth wasn't that the last time Miz (with R-Truth of all people) was actually, like, a really credible danger to people? I'd say his Smackdown run vs Ziggler made him legit dangerous. He was not a chickenshit heel in that feud, he was out to slaughter Ziggler and Dolph made the SCF look like a death move. For that matter, it's continued to be a Death Move since then. As far I remember nobody has kicked out of it or gotten up from it in angles for... a long while now. It may be in contention for Most Protected Finisher along with Dirty Deeds, the F-5 and OOOOOAAAAAH.
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Sep 26, 2017 07:27
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Ahhh, actually if they did Shield/Miztourage as the TLC Match I'd be able to buy that more (plus it'd improve the match).
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Sep 26, 2017 07:28
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I just wish Roman had his own theme so it would be more special when the shield returns. I guess the "sierra hotel india echo lima delta" will get a pretty big pop though
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Sep 26, 2017 07:32
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tweet my meat posted:I just wish Roman had his own theme so it would be more special when the shield returns. I guess the "sierra hotel india echo lima delta" will get a pretty big pop though Agreed.
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Jack Anderson posted:Are Finn and Bray really still going at it? Really? No. Finn and Goldust are going at it, now. RIP Finn Balor's career
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Ahhh, actually if they did Shield/Miztourage as the TLC Match I'd be able to buy that more (plus it'd improve the match). I think that's the point since they debuted at TLC.
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Sep 26, 2017 07:44
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Sanguinia posted:I'd say his Smackdown run vs Ziggler made him legit dangerous. He was not a chickenshit heel in that feud, he was out to slaughter Ziggler and Dolph made the SCF look like a death move. Ziggler kicked out at No Mercy (the last one!), Dean kicked out on SmackDown. I wanna say that's it. Strawberry Panda posted:I think that's the point since they debuted at TLC. They debuted at Survivor Series.
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VJeff posted:Ziggler kicked out at No Mercy (the last one!), Dean kicked out on SmackDown. I wanna say that's it. Yes but their first match was TLC.
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Sep 26, 2017 07:48
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Is Finn and Bray really still not over? Really? REALLY? Really.
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loose cannon neville top face vs. shithead braggart moron enzo top heel makes me extremely interested in 205 live, its me i am the mark.
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shiksa posted:loose cannon neville top face vs. shithead braggart moron enzo top heel makes me extremely interested in 205 live, its me i am the mark. I took that as Neville leaving 205 (which frankly he should). But it's still the best thing possible for the show even just with Enzo'x turn.
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Sanguinia posted:Wow, the double-turn segment for Neville and Enzo was awesome. Like, for Enzo it plays perfectly into the reality of a division where Enzo is by far the worst wrestler, his overall kayfabe portrayal and booking as a loud-mouth sub-par fighter who has accomplished little even going back to NXT and spent his entire title match getting his rear end kicked AND it successfully works the shoot backstage drama we've been following for him. For Neville it rewards him for months and months of carrying the division with top-level character work AND wrestling to sub-par reactions with a huge push and a boat-load of momentum off the turn, but gives him a perfect storyline reason for leaving the division entirely thus protecting Enzo and the Cruisers as a whole from the vacuum he caused by his long dominance. It sets Enzo up with a ton of heat, and leaves a wide-open field for who might go after him because Jack's recent turn along with Gulak's amusing new gimmick set up very fresh #2 and #3 heels to build up challengers, while Neville left Tozawa and Swann as ex-Champions primed to get hosed over by Enzo so he'll be occupied through to Mania season. Wait when did Jack have a heel turn??? What's his character like now??
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Jiro posted:Wait when did Jack have a heel turn??? What's his character like now?? He turned after TBK beat him to end their feud. His character is basically "guy who looks like a gentleman but is actually a gritty bastard."
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Sep 26, 2017 08:25
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I've finished Raw now and that was such a perfect face turn for Neville. After months and months of being obsessed with the title he gave it all up just to punch Enzo round the head 
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God, WWE Story Time is just the best, especially the stories tonight from Mick Foley and Steve Austin
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Last night: They'll never reform the SHIELD to fight The Miz and his goons WWE: Hold my beer Roman Reigns: Get my beer, boy
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Sep 26, 2017 08:34
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I have been known to occasionally enjoy a beer. But I am ambivalent about Roman Reigns.
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Sep 26, 2017 08:43
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Gonz posted:I have been known to occasionally enjoy a beer. But I am ambivalent about Roman Reigns.
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Sep 26, 2017 08:45
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RealFoxy posted:Roman Reigns is the working class, and you will love him because he likes to drink beer. Please boo The Miz, who only drinks champagne. Counterpoint: The Miz is the IC champ, is a cool dude with a smokin' hot wife, and has friends. Roman has no title, tries hard to be cool and fails, and has no friends to watch his back. Roman probably also enjoys drinking Milwaukee's Best, which is technically carbonated urine.
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It seems like bad writing to turn Enzo so soon after he was the plucky underdog against Big Cass. Now I know what you're thinking, bad writing, WWE? Really? But just hear me out
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Alan_Shore posted:It seems like bad writing to turn Enzo so soon after he was the plucky underdog against Big Cass. Now I know what you're thinking, bad writing, WWE? Really? But just hear me out "
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